費德勒為什麼討人喜歡啊? - 網球 Tennis

By Wallis
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不得不佩服原po整理這麼多資訊 辛苦了^^
本人也是費迷
但若真的要說到"風度"Big4中納豆絕對是完勝其他人
不論球場上球場下 納豆的風度都無可挑剔
而且納豆對媒體的發言非常得體 基本上好像沒聽過納豆傳過甚麼爭議性新聞
而費莫囧的風度就真的普普而已 摔拍吼叫的行為也看過不少次了
把球員場上的肢體語言特別抓出來鞭我是覺得頗為無聊(例如這次囧吼球童事件)
事實就是 當你喜歡一個人的時候你會忽略他的缺點 然後無限放大他的優點
至於你所提到的這些費爸的"失言"我就覺得還好耶^^
雖然聽起來真的頗為狂妄目中無人
但我覺得費爸就是有資格說這些狂語
身為一個球迷本來就不可能真正理性
我反而覺得納豆就是太乖太有禮貌少了點吸引人的霸氣
但有一件我覺得特別要提的就是某次費爸朝對手的臉部打(忘記哪場對誰)
這就真的太over了 不管有意無意費爸真的是該道歉 記得當時板上也吵很兇
回到原po的問題 為什麼喜歡費爸的原因:
1.看費爸打球很過癮根本是種享受 節奏快不會拖泥帶水(瑞士特快車的綽號就是降來的)
發球也不會先拍個幾十拍到你快抓狂 發球也不會吼叫(個人喜好)
並不是說底線對抽不好看 只是個人覺得發球上網精彩度較高些 比賽也不會拖太久
2.無論正拍 反拍 小球 截擊 扣殺還是胯下擊球
費爸就是能夠詮釋得很優雅(甚至我也覺得費爸摔拍特別帥耶^^)
如果有網球教科書 我想一定會以費爸為範本
3.費爸就是帥阿 不要說Big4了 當今網壇比費爸帥的應該也沒幾個
4.費爸的輝煌成就:17GS (溫網5連霸+美網5連霸) 球王302週 生涯千勝 單一年度92W5L...
太多了 只舉某些代表性的
至於原po所說的風度 我是真的覺得還好耶^^
費爸只是偉大的網球選手 並不是聖人
補充說明 如果費爸真的各方面都完美 我反而覺得就沒那麼吸引人 因為太無趣了...
(老大能夠統治NBA板不是沒原因的)
ps:如果有在看NBA 就會覺得費爸這些"失言"真的是小兒科啦
老喬的垃圾話才真的是經典 但球迷不就愛這些嗎^^
我且這些垃圾話可以營造出對決的氣氛增加球賽可看性 有何不可
但網球比起籃球傳統印象就真的比較高貴
NBA球員吸毒轟趴嫖妓強暴(?)犯罪的一拖拉古 比起來網球選手還真的個個都是聖人...
※ 引述《betadu (正直有為電鋸弟弟)》之銘言:
: 最近有一系列Djokovic為何討人厭的文章,
: 一時有點好奇大家對其他選手的觀感如何,
: 特別的是,似乎很多人都覺得Federer很有風度,但是我看球也看了十多年了,
: 這似乎和我的印象不太符合耶,大家可以討論看看,
: 為什麼Federer很受眾人愛戴嗎?
: 以下是我的淺見啦^^"
: 1.2005 澳網嘲諷Agassi,稱就算自己不在最佳狀態也可以擊敗對手
: http://bit.ly/1Od9Whu
: I know my game is good enough and, even when I'm not playing perfect, I know
: I can beat him. He's not as good as he was when he was at the top of the
: rankings, otherwise he would still be there. I think he has to raise his
: game, not me
: Bleacher Report的資深記者Rob York對這段就很感冒,認為是大頭病的起源
: 2.2006年辛辛那提大師賽,Federer敗給Murray,在比賽途中憤而把球打進觀眾席
: 我一時找不到影片與新聞,不過英網版還有板友留下當年的回憶,
: 夠老的球迷應該也還記得
: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/GBR_Tennis/M.1155858546.A.6EE.html
: 3.2007年溫布頓決賽,因為鷹眼判決不如己意,要求裁判關閉鷹眼系統,
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf8_fBZDGnM
: 在之後Nadal一個明顯出界球,Federer對Nadal喊Challege and call it in
: 延伸閱讀:Federer要求關閉鷹眼,但批評Nadal希望某位主審暫時不要執法他的比賽
: http://tinyurl.com/pnnqwp4
: 4.2008年嗆Djoko父母安靜,當時球的來回已經結束,且Djoko父母沒有發出特殊喊聲
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpd23dTcT6c
: 延伸閱讀:2014年Federer妻子Mirka嗆Wawrinka Crybaby,
: Wawrinka同時表示整場球Mirka都在旁邊heckling
: http://bit.ly/1I2X4cL
: 事後兩人據稱在更衣室談了十分鐘,未曾有過公開道歉
: 5.2009年美網對陣Del Potro,嗆主審Garner
: http://bit.ly/1OdolKo
: Federer was fined £1,000 for swearing at Garner, the umpire during his shock
: US Open final defeat to Juan Martin Del Potro in 2009. Federer was
: complaining that Del Potro was taking too long to decide whether or not to
: make challenges, with the Swiss telling Garner: "Don't tell me when to be
: quiet, okay? When I want to talk, I'll talk."
: 偉大的選手可以When I want to talk, I'll talk
: ^^
: 6.2011年,Federer酸Murray在亞洲的好成績都是因為對手不夠強
: http://en.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/121913.html
: "I'm not taking anything away from what Andy did, but was Asia the strongest
: this year?' asked Federer in the Daily Telegraph. "I'm not sure.
: "Novak [Djokovic] wasn't there, I wasn't there and [in Shanghai] Rafa lost
: early."
: 但是Murray剛連拿曼谷、東京和上海的冠軍,在Tokyo逆轉擊敗Nadal,在上海擊敗Ferrer
: 同時Federer只拿下Paris和Basel,而對到的最高種子僅是世界第八的Tsonga
: 7.2011年,當Murray在倫敦年終賽中因為傷痛掙扎時,Federer稱冠軍即便受傷也能贏球
: ,
: 並順便吹捧自己一番
: http://bit.ly/1OdhctI
: ROGER FEDERER has told Andy Murray that champions play and win even when they
: are injured or ill.
: “My body, even if it’s injured, can still play really well, whereas maybe
: other players, if they are injured, it doesn’t work any more.
: 延伸閱讀:2010年溫網輸給Berdych時,Federer說都是因為受傷害的
: http://bit.ly/1I33wAw
: "That never quite really went away. It came back a little bit after the
: first-round match and then went away again and just kept creeping back
: sometimes during the matches. When you're hurting, it's a combination of many
: things. You just don't feel as comfortable. You can't concentrate."
: 搞得Berdych不太爽,覺得只是在找藉口
: http://bit.ly/1I34r46
: 8.2011美網,敗給Djokovic後稱對手只是因為運氣好
: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/sep/11/us-open-2011-federer-djokovic
: 對Djoko挽救賽點的一球正拍,名宿McEnroe稱讚是史上最好的一球之一,
: Federer則稱那只是運氣好
: There followed a string of excuses and justifications which not only were
: barely sustainable given the evidence but seriously disrespected the winner.
: Asked about the quite remarkable forehand winner Djokovic hit to save match
: point, Federer reckoned the Serb did not look at that point like someone "who
: believes much anymore in winning. To lose against someone like that, it's
: very disappointing, because you feel like he was mentally out of it already.
: Just gets the lucky shot at the end, and off you go."
: 9.2012年台維斯杯,Federer指責Wawrinka打不好害瑞士被淘汰
: http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2012-02-12/8856.php
: “I played well enough in doubles, but Stanislas not so much,” Federer said
: via AP translation.
: He added that Stan, who was seated next to him in the interview, “didn’t
: have his best match in singles. It’s a shame, because of that defeat we weren
: ’t able to put the U.S under pressure.”
: Wawrinka打了五盤輸給Fish,但Federer只打四盤就輸給了當時排名更低的Isner
: 而雙打則是Federer和Wawrinka共同搭檔,輸給美國的Fish+Bryant組合
: 據稱Federer在記者會指責Wawrinka時,旁邊的Wawrinka一臉不敢置信地看著Federer
: 10.2012年法網,對陣Del Potro輸了一顆球,怒譙觀眾Shut up
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd_ISSzxyZk
: 11.2014年澳網,Federer要求主辦單位不要把一顆違法擊球(彈跳兩次)秀在大螢幕上
: http://bit.ly/1OdoGge
: Murray said Federer attempted to cover up a controversy at the 2014
: Australian Open when the Swiss asked that replays of an illegal shot not be
: shown on the big screen. “He asked for them to stop showing it on the video
: because I think he knew it bounced twice as well," Murray said. “Roger asked
: them not to show it because it looks controversial and doesn’t look great.
: But it’s fine for them to show videos of me every time I get annoyed on the
: court or whatever – it’s up there the whole bloody match."
: 12.2015年澳網,吼拍攝他治療的攝影師
: http://bit.ly/1I39AZW
: Federer lost his unruffled demeanour when he was involved in an on-court spat
: with a television camerama at the 2015 Australian Open. After calling the
: trainer to Rod Laver Arena for what initially appeared to be a blister on the
: little finger of his right hand, Federer lashed out at a cameraman filming
: him close by.He angrily ushered away the cameraman, saying "Do you need to be
: so close?", before recovering his composure to win.
: 本篇只談Federer自己的言行啦,很多其他的批評我先省略,
: 像是Nadal在2012批評Federer不沾鍋,不願意參與讓澳網獎金更公平的分配等等,
: 前段選手像Nadal願意犧牲自己的獎金來照顧後段選手是很偉大的事情,
: 但是Federer表現得也是人之常情啦,畢竟是自己比較有可能拿到大份的,幹嘛分人
: 對了,好像有人說Federer都沒摔拍,隨意來個影片好了
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVwQX4hneL8
: 其實我個人覺得這次摔得很漂亮,和Safin一樣不拖泥帶水,直接摔爛
: 堪稱摔拍典範
: 另外好像有個三國人物覺得我說外國討論很多是唬爛,要我提出證據
: http://ble.ac/1I38eya
: http://bit.ly/1OdlNMz
: http://bit.ly/1I38kWB
: 族繁不及備載,提供幾個關鍵字,如hypocrite, arrogant, immodest, selfish等
: 可搭配組合估狗,效果絕佳
: 不知道大家覺得如何呢? ^^
--
本人也是費迷
但若真的要說到"風度"Big4中納豆絕對是完勝其他人
不論球場上球場下 納豆的風度都無可挑剔
而且納豆對媒體的發言非常得體 基本上好像沒聽過納豆傳過甚麼爭議性新聞
而費莫囧的風度就真的普普而已 摔拍吼叫的行為也看過不少次了
把球員場上的肢體語言特別抓出來鞭我是覺得頗為無聊(例如這次囧吼球童事件)
事實就是 當你喜歡一個人的時候你會忽略他的缺點 然後無限放大他的優點
至於你所提到的這些費爸的"失言"我就覺得還好耶^^
雖然聽起來真的頗為狂妄目中無人
但我覺得費爸就是有資格說這些狂語
身為一個球迷本來就不可能真正理性
我反而覺得納豆就是太乖太有禮貌少了點吸引人的霸氣
但有一件我覺得特別要提的就是某次費爸朝對手的臉部打(忘記哪場對誰)
這就真的太over了 不管有意無意費爸真的是該道歉 記得當時板上也吵很兇
回到原po的問題 為什麼喜歡費爸的原因:
1.看費爸打球很過癮根本是種享受 節奏快不會拖泥帶水(瑞士特快車的綽號就是降來的)
發球也不會先拍個幾十拍到你快抓狂 發球也不會吼叫(個人喜好)
並不是說底線對抽不好看 只是個人覺得發球上網精彩度較高些 比賽也不會拖太久
2.無論正拍 反拍 小球 截擊 扣殺還是胯下擊球
費爸就是能夠詮釋得很優雅(甚至我也覺得費爸摔拍特別帥耶^^)
如果有網球教科書 我想一定會以費爸為範本
3.費爸就是帥阿 不要說Big4了 當今網壇比費爸帥的應該也沒幾個
4.費爸的輝煌成就:17GS (溫網5連霸+美網5連霸) 球王302週 生涯千勝 單一年度92W5L...
太多了 只舉某些代表性的
至於原po所說的風度 我是真的覺得還好耶^^
費爸只是偉大的網球選手 並不是聖人
補充說明 如果費爸真的各方面都完美 我反而覺得就沒那麼吸引人 因為太無趣了...
(老大能夠統治NBA板不是沒原因的)
ps:如果有在看NBA 就會覺得費爸這些"失言"真的是小兒科啦
老喬的垃圾話才真的是經典 但球迷不就愛這些嗎^^
我且這些垃圾話可以營造出對決的氣氛增加球賽可看性 有何不可
但網球比起籃球傳統印象就真的比較高貴
NBA球員吸毒轟趴嫖妓強暴(?)犯罪的一拖拉古 比起來網球選手還真的個個都是聖人...
※ 引述《betadu (正直有為電鋸弟弟)》之銘言:
: 最近有一系列Djokovic為何討人厭的文章,
: 一時有點好奇大家對其他選手的觀感如何,
: 特別的是,似乎很多人都覺得Federer很有風度,但是我看球也看了十多年了,
: 這似乎和我的印象不太符合耶,大家可以討論看看,
: 為什麼Federer很受眾人愛戴嗎?
: 以下是我的淺見啦^^"
: 1.2005 澳網嘲諷Agassi,稱就算自己不在最佳狀態也可以擊敗對手
: http://bit.ly/1Od9Whu
: I know my game is good enough and, even when I'm not playing perfect, I know
: I can beat him. He's not as good as he was when he was at the top of the
: rankings, otherwise he would still be there. I think he has to raise his
: game, not me
: Bleacher Report的資深記者Rob York對這段就很感冒,認為是大頭病的起源
: 2.2006年辛辛那提大師賽,Federer敗給Murray,在比賽途中憤而把球打進觀眾席
: 我一時找不到影片與新聞,不過英網版還有板友留下當年的回憶,
: 夠老的球迷應該也還記得
: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/GBR_Tennis/M.1155858546.A.6EE.html
: 3.2007年溫布頓決賽,因為鷹眼判決不如己意,要求裁判關閉鷹眼系統,
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf8_fBZDGnM
: 延伸閱讀:Federer要求關閉鷹眼,但批評Nadal希望某位主審暫時不要執法他的比賽
: http://tinyurl.com/pnnqwp4
: 4.2008年嗆Djoko父母安靜,當時球的來回已經結束,且Djoko父母沒有發出特殊喊聲
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpd23dTcT6c
: Wawrinka同時表示整場球Mirka都在旁邊heckling
: http://bit.ly/1I2X4cL
: 事後兩人據稱在更衣室談了十分鐘,未曾有過公開道歉
: 5.2009年美網對陣Del Potro,嗆主審Garner
: http://bit.ly/1OdolKo
: Federer was fined £1,000 for swearing at Garner, the umpire during his shock
: US Open final defeat to Juan Martin Del Potro in 2009. Federer was
: complaining that Del Potro was taking too long to decide whether or not to
: make challenges, with the Swiss telling Garner: "Don't tell me when to be
: quiet, okay? When I want to talk, I'll talk."
: 偉大的選手可以When I want to talk, I'll talk
: ^^
: 6.2011年,Federer酸Murray在亞洲的好成績都是因為對手不夠強
: http://en.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/121913.html
: "I'm not taking anything away from what Andy did, but was Asia the strongest
: this year?' asked Federer in the Daily Telegraph. "I'm not sure.
: "Novak [Djokovic] wasn't there, I wasn't there and [in Shanghai] Rafa lost
: early."
: 但是Murray剛連拿曼谷、東京和上海的冠軍,在Tokyo逆轉擊敗Nadal,在上海擊敗Ferrer
: 同時Federer只拿下Paris和Basel,而對到的最高種子僅是世界第八的Tsonga
: 7.2011年,當Murray在倫敦年終賽中因為傷痛掙扎時,Federer稱冠軍即便受傷也能贏球
: ,
: 並順便吹捧自己一番
: http://bit.ly/1OdhctI
: ROGER FEDERER has told Andy Murray that champions play and win even when they
: are injured or ill.
: “My body, even if it’s injured, can still play really well, whereas maybe
: other players, if they are injured, it doesn’t work any more.
: 延伸閱讀:2010年溫網輸給Berdych時,Federer說都是因為受傷害的
: http://bit.ly/1I33wAw
: "That never quite really went away. It came back a little bit after the
: first-round match and then went away again and just kept creeping back
: sometimes during the matches. When you're hurting, it's a combination of many
: things. You just don't feel as comfortable. You can't concentrate."
: 搞得Berdych不太爽,覺得只是在找藉口
: http://bit.ly/1I34r46
: 8.2011美網,敗給Djokovic後稱對手只是因為運氣好
: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/sep/11/us-open-2011-federer-djokovic
: 對Djoko挽救賽點的一球正拍,名宿McEnroe稱讚是史上最好的一球之一,
: Federer則稱那只是運氣好
: There followed a string of excuses and justifications which not only were
: barely sustainable given the evidence but seriously disrespected the winner.
: Asked about the quite remarkable forehand winner Djokovic hit to save match
: point, Federer reckoned the Serb did not look at that point like someone "who
: believes much anymore in winning. To lose against someone like that, it's
: very disappointing, because you feel like he was mentally out of it already.
: Just gets the lucky shot at the end, and off you go."
: 9.2012年台維斯杯,Federer指責Wawrinka打不好害瑞士被淘汰
: http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2012-02-12/8856.php
: “I played well enough in doubles, but Stanislas not so much,” Federer said
: via AP translation.
: He added that Stan, who was seated next to him in the interview, “didn’t
: have his best match in singles. It’s a shame, because of that defeat we weren
: ’t able to put the U.S under pressure.”
: Wawrinka打了五盤輸給Fish,但Federer只打四盤就輸給了當時排名更低的Isner
: 而雙打則是Federer和Wawrinka共同搭檔,輸給美國的Fish+Bryant組合
: 據稱Federer在記者會指責Wawrinka時,旁邊的Wawrinka一臉不敢置信地看著Federer
: 10.2012年法網,對陣Del Potro輸了一顆球,怒譙觀眾Shut up
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd_ISSzxyZk
: http://bit.ly/1OdoGge
: Murray said Federer attempted to cover up a controversy at the 2014
: Australian Open when the Swiss asked that replays of an illegal shot not be
: shown on the big screen. “He asked for them to stop showing it on the video
: because I think he knew it bounced twice as well," Murray said. “Roger asked
: them not to show it because it looks controversial and doesn’t look great.
: But it’s fine for them to show videos of me every time I get annoyed on the
: court or whatever – it’s up there the whole bloody match."
: 12.2015年澳網,吼拍攝他治療的攝影師
: http://bit.ly/1I39AZW
: Federer lost his unruffled demeanour when he was involved in an on-court spat
: with a television camerama at the 2015 Australian Open. After calling the
: trainer to Rod Laver Arena for what initially appeared to be a blister on the
: little finger of his right hand, Federer lashed out at a cameraman filming
: him close by.He angrily ushered away the cameraman, saying "Do you need to be
: so close?", before recovering his composure to win.
: 本篇只談Federer自己的言行啦,很多其他的批評我先省略,
: 像是Nadal在2012批評Federer不沾鍋,不願意參與讓澳網獎金更公平的分配等等,
: 前段選手像Nadal願意犧牲自己的獎金來照顧後段選手是很偉大的事情,
: 但是Federer表現得也是人之常情啦,畢竟是自己比較有可能拿到大份的,幹嘛分人
: 對了,好像有人說Federer都沒摔拍,隨意來個影片好了
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVwQX4hneL8
: 堪稱摔拍典範
: 另外好像有個三國人物覺得我說外國討論很多是唬爛,要我提出證據
: http://ble.ac/1I38eya
: http://bit.ly/1OdlNMz
: http://bit.ly/1I38kWB
: 族繁不及備載,提供幾個關鍵字,如hypocrite, arrogant, immodest, selfish等
: 可搭配組合估狗,效果絕佳
: 不知道大家覺得如何呢? ^^
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