聽息法和觀息法 - 冥想,靜坐 Meditation
By Quintina
at 2011-08-12T00:53
at 2011-08-12T00:53
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我覺得不管是聽息法還是觀息法,
都不是件很容易的事,
因為很氣息很容易因此加粗加重,
甚至也因為多了關注,就會打亂原本的節奏.......
但我覺得很值得練練,應該可以加深意識的敏感度
※ 編輯: yule1224 來自: 50.98.129.108 (08/12 00:54)
推 lilneige:是阿 真的不容易 08/12 00:55
→ ilanese:這種情況很常見…… 08/12 11:12
→ ilanese:方法看似簡單,但總會有一些問題的。 08/12 11:12
→ ilanese:所以,我才提倡最好去觀照外境之東西,比較不會有這類的弊 08/12 11:13
→ ilanese:端。 08/12 11:13
推 ilanese:如果以若有似無地僅用微意觀照的話,應該比較不會有這個問 08/12 17:23
→ ilanese:題,問題是初學者往往意念放太重,也會造成這類呼吸氣息粗 08/12 17:23
→ ilanese:重的問題。 08/12 17:23
推 ilanese:原PO既然都練那麼多種了,不妨再試試《聖嚴法師教觀音法門 08/12 17:26
→ ilanese:》裡面說的來練就好了。 08/12 17:27
→ yule1224:謝謝 似乎不錯 08/12 17:45
推 sunkisswang:或許還可聽到氣脈流動的聲音 08/12 23:17
→ ilanese:沒那麼複雜,如實觀照即可~~ 08/13 12:10
→ ilanese:靜坐不必搞奇奇怪怪的花招,方法簡單易行又沒什麼弊端就行 08/13 12:11
→ ilanese:了。 08/13 12:11
→ ilanese:我第一次輕安是因為頭部氣脈關卡打通。 08/13 12:12
→ ilanese:第二次輕安是由於修習這觀音法門,雖然我一開始採用觀自己 08/13 12:13
→ ilanese:身體內部的聲音(但有的人是聽不到這類聲音的),後來發現 08/13 12:14
→ ilanese:即使採用觀外境的聲音也是一樣有輕安的效果的。 08/13 12:14
→ ilanese:佛教說的色界四禪的共同禪支都有「心一境性」禪支,採用專 08/13 12:19
→ ilanese:注觀照於一的方法,無論作意或不作意,才是入禪定的捷徑。 08/13 12:20
→ ilanese:(因為直接就是把結果當方法來練了……) 08/13 12:20
→ ilanese:要想有止禪效果的話,concentrative meditation比open-up 08/13 12:23
→ ilanese:meditation好多了,因為理論上open-up meditation並沒有專 08/13 12:24
→ ilanese:注觀照於一來減少念頭的方法,只能靠念頭自然寂滅…… 08/13 12:25
→ ilanese:在我的經驗裡,要發起身心輕安的話,不作意而在念頭很少的 08/13 12:28
→ ilanese:情況下,才比較容易出現。 08/13 12:28
→ ilanese:我曾有好幾次在不作意而在念頭很少的情況下,後來無意間發 08/13 12:29
→ juicelover:越看你的推文,我就越不舒服.....難得我會哪麼不爽1 08/13 12:29
→ juicelover:板上有人亂練你要負一半責任。 08/13 12:30
→ ilanese:現使用持咒法這類作意的方法,而仍能自頭部發起清涼之氣, 08/13 12:30
→ ilanese:進而輕安。 08/13 12:30
→ juicelover:根本就不完全是這樣解釋。算了!個人有個人的因緣。福氣 08/13 12:31
→ juicelover:我這篇發得文,用在都在讓人不要再去注重呼吸的狀況, 08/13 12:36
→ juicelover:對於有些版友自然就會平氣,如果他們能看到重點。 08/13 12:37
→ juicelover:你給我寫一些止跟一的,效用根本不大。 08/13 12:37
→ juicelover:本來我不想管的,但你給我越來越誇張! 08/13 12:38
→ juicelover:氣到手發抖...... 08/13 12:38
→ juicelover:我已經提點你只有open,你就是固執不反省。 08/13 12:39
→ ilanese:我並不建議把注意力放在身體上或是呼吸上,這樣子比較不會 08/13 12:41
→ ilanese:其他的,懶的說了…… 08/13 12:42
→ ilanese:有人用卜卦發起妄念,認為別人如何如何是他家的事情,真那 08/13 12:43
→ ilanese:麼厲害的話,卜個那期大樂透的頭獎,你不就不必工作了。 08/13 12:43
→ ilanese:道不同,不相為謀。管好你自己就好了…… 08/13 12:44
→ juicelover:我只是不喜歡下定義,就是因為我知道準確性。 08/13 14:05
→ juicelover:我不用從卦象就可以知道你的狀況,以前我知道不想講, 08/13 14:06
→ juicelover:反正跟我無關,但我真的細心去了解,你寫的東西跟你的 08/13 14:06
→ juicelover:狀況是不太相符的,試問是不是在誤導。 08/13 14:07
→ juicelover:你真如果接觸哪麼多,就更應該知道傳承似是而非的東西 08/13 14:07
→ juicelover:是不是真的合乎道理。 08/13 14:08
→ juicelover:道不同,我也從未跟你交流過,各說各話不肯放下的人究 08/13 14:08
推 juicelover:竟是誰,在我po出yu大的狀況後,比對後你就警覺是否在 08/13 14:11
→ juicelover:過去的推文中是否有偏差的地方,你不但不反省還給我說 08/13 14:12
→ juicelover:些有的沒的,不尊重古人智慧是我表達得不好,但身為先 08/13 14:14
→ juicelover:學的你,怎麼越做越回去,懶得幫就不要幫。 08/13 14:15
→ juicelover:可笑!一句話道不同,就可以打發掉過去已經造成偏差的 08/13 14:19
→ juicelover:的觀念了嗎? 08/13 14:20
→ juicelover:最後回你一句話,我把我自己管得很好。把你的擔心收回 08/13 14:22
→ ilanese:有本事把東西寫清楚,不必裝神秘,論本板要第一個因為洩露 08/13 15:02
→ ilanese:天機而遭天譴的,一定會是我的。 08/13 15:03
→ ilanese:台灣靜坐或宗教界,沒什麼人在談什麼concentrative 08/13 15:04
→ ilanese:meditation或是open-up meditation,因為那個是從心理學教 08/13 15:05
→ ilanese:科書來的,但這種分類也是自成一套理論的。 08/13 15:05
→ ilanese:於是我就順著這種定義及分類,給他拓展了一些東西。 08/13 15:07
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