古琴與氣之修練 - 氣功 Qigong

By Candice
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要練氣不一定心得靜下來,用第六意識不斷思考也可以練氣。
以我當年沒人教導,自己參「道」的方式,就是不斷地看書,
不斷地想著道是什麼?用這種方式,參了一個多月,體內早以積氣
許久,平常就覺得全身發燙、心念也有點浮燥,但當時並不懂氣功
或靜坐的方法。後來別人教我靜坐,心念一專注,五分鐘不到,就
氣機發動了。
這種方法,有點像佛教參話頭的方式,那我自己的心得是最好
先學臨濟宗的話頭禪有點成就後,再修曹洞宗的默照禪會比較好。
(我所學的雖是道家,後來卻從佛教禪宗領悟這種過程,我自己本
身也是類似上面的順序進行的。)
前一陣子,在網路上看到果煜法師文集,其實他的文章中也隱
約透露出這種想法。
※ 編輯: ilanese 來自: 61.216.246.224 (05/24 15:23)
以我當年沒人教導,自己參「道」的方式,就是不斷地看書,
不斷地想著道是什麼?用這種方式,參了一個多月,體內早以積氣
許久,平常就覺得全身發燙、心念也有點浮燥,但當時並不懂氣功
或靜坐的方法。後來別人教我靜坐,心念一專注,五分鐘不到,就
氣機發動了。
這種方法,有點像佛教參話頭的方式,那我自己的心得是最好
先學臨濟宗的話頭禪有點成就後,再修曹洞宗的默照禪會比較好。
(我所學的雖是道家,後來卻從佛教禪宗領悟這種過程,我自己本
身也是類似上面的順序進行的。)
前一陣子,在網路上看到果煜法師文集,其實他的文章中也隱
約透露出這種想法。
※ 編輯: ilanese 來自: 61.216.246.224 (05/24 15:23)
推 stanlyleu:聽你第二段那樣說我就放心了,我從高中就開始這樣,雖稱 05/24 15:37
→ stanlyleu:不上天生神力,不過因為自幼個性使然,比較少過度社會化 05/24 15:38
→ stanlyleu:想東西比較容易也比較能參透本質,恩師說悟性高。 05/24 15:38
→ ilanese:可是得知道自己的狀況,以及要怎麼去對治才行,不然氣機充 05/24 15:41
→ ilanese:塞體內,沒個出處,還是會不舒服的。 05/24 15:42
推 stanlyleu:喔喔,該不會我就是因此都積在頭上,所以以前頭常發熱甚 05/24 15:43
→ stanlyleu:至長類似被蚊子釘的痘痘吧= =||| 05/24 15:43
→ ilanese:我的經驗是心理比較類似躁期的現象,身體會全身發熱。 05/24 18:08
→ ilanese:氣要歸元,找個止的方法,讓心歸於一念,這氣機自會尋求其 05/24 18:09
→ ilanese:去向的。 05/24 18:10
※ 編輯: ilanese 來自: 61.231.233.213 (05/24 18:10) 推 stanlyleu:i大果然經驗豐富^^ 05/24 19:48
推 daouz:S兄我跟你說個方法好了,你試著把熱集中到命門看看。 05/26 03:46
推 daouz:另外這種陽氣發起 我覺得跟練氣還是有很大的差距 05/26 03:58
→ daouz:另想請教I兄 曾提過幾次氣機發動 不知是什麼樣的情形 05/26 03:59
→ stanlyleu:怎樣叫做把熱集中在命門? 動作該如何呢? 完全不懂XD 05/26 09:02
推 nknuukyo:呼吸深一點 氣稍微往背上送 大概在兩腎之間 05/26 10:59
→ nknuukyo:慢慢習慣後腰會比較鬆 氣比較能貼背 05/26 11:00
→ ilanese:平時的話,只要心靜下來就行了,或持咒也可以,氣自然從頭 05/26 11:25
→ ilanese:部向下走,然後充滿全身。 05/26 11:26
→ ilanese:這是一般靜坐的方式。 05/26 11:31
→ ilanese:平時半夜醒來,陽舉時,全身暖洋洋的,心理有點懶散,這是 05/26 11:31
→ ilanese:陽氣發生的一種。 05/26 11:32
→ ilanese:至於「參道」那一段,嚴格來說,那是修行了,是猛藥。 05/26 11:33
→ ilanese:身體積了太多陽氣,沒管道可去,這就會全身發熱,寒流來穿 05/26 11:34
→ ilanese:個T恤也不會覺得冷,但心理會亂亂的。 05/26 11:35
推 bibobaby2:完全不懂的,最好找氣功班學習,一知半解不太好 05/26 11:54
→ bibobaby2:雖說什麼都不學,靜下來就可以,但到那程度前,很少真沒學 05/26 11:55
→ bibobaby2:過什麼的 05/26 11:56
→ bibobaby2:另外,不妨參詳..中醫板之隔薑炙or溫炙 (stanlyleu) 05/26 11:57
推 bibobaby2:基本上,個人較不注重通經走絡,而是順其自然;但..比較善 05/26 12:00
→ bibobaby2:用各種工具,事半功倍吧? 或許... (如上,氣海or命門) 05/26 12:01
→ bibobaby2:或者石頭,或許藥餌,或許..都可以吧? 05/26 12:02
推 bibobaby2:別人幫也行,自己來也行,日久功深,大致上是這樣 05/26 12:06
→ ilanese:外面有幫人開穴的,一入門就幫你開的。只是我是覺得如果你 05/26 12:35
→ ilanese:要練長久的話,就不要懶惰,不然轉換為性功時,你可能會練 05/26 12:36
→ ilanese:不下去。 05/26 12:36
推 bibobaby2:剛運動完,辛苦了 ^^ 05/26 13:34
推 bibobaby2:剛休息完,幫人開穴的一狗票吧? 05/26 13:58
→ bibobaby2:插根草較好點,不然..台灣地震很多 XD 05/26 14:00
→ bibobaby2:以上純屬哈拉,午安,下了.. 05/26 14:01
→ stanlyleu:我的體質不太適合直接用灸的。 05/26 14:31
→ stanlyleu:氣功班阿,我很少為了學一樣東西特地去找個班來上課的, 05/26 14:48
→ stanlyleu:除了我生命中一些好老師都是自然因緣際會之外,氣功班眾 05/26 14:48
→ stanlyleu:多,不希望繳了學費發現是不喜歡或不夠好或正確??的氣功 05/26 14:49
→ stanlyleu:班,畢竟各家總有偏頗,再加上一般人哲理思辯有待加強, 05/26 14:50
→ stanlyleu:怕是學說 門派強調的理論 混雜或亂七八糟,所以不太放心 05/26 14:50
→ stanlyleu:去找個班這樣來上課,除非是有詳談已久的高手推薦的,可 05/26 14:52
→ stanlyleu:能才會去吧,要不就自己多看書多實驗看看這樣,上次I大 05/26 14:53
→ stanlyleu:有推薦書給我,不是看不懂,只是那沒講實際操作的動作, 05/26 14:53
→ stanlyleu:如果不介意的話,b大也可推薦一些書籍供參考^^ 05/26 14:55
→ stanlyleu:如果要推薦你認為值得推薦的老師 也是可以的。 05/26 14:55
推 stanlyleu:ps:老實說,比較想像il大這樣 一開始無師自通或經人點化 05/26 15:19
→ stanlyleu:一下就不錯的這樣的經過XD 從小學東西多是這樣。 05/26 15:20
推 bibobaby2:^^ 05/26 17:12
→ bibobaby2:請他幫你點化吧 ^^ 05/26 17:13
推 bibobaby2:我跟你剛好相反,上過一些課,我覺得花得值.. 05/26 17:18
→ bibobaby2:書,加減看而已,畢竟..有沒有那個程度不知道;知道有沒有 05/26 17:19
→ bibobaby2:那程度,那書也就沒價值了.. 05/26 17:20
→ bibobaby2:而老師也是一樣的道理,有沒有那程度,久了就知道,一看就 05/26 17:20
→ bibobaby2:知道,那學的也很有限了 05/26 17:21
→ bibobaby2:至於體質不適合炙?不至於才對,你有心血管or糖尿病? XD 05/26 17:22
推 bibobaby2:另外,要跟你說一件事,如果是學氣功的人,不講究八調,只講 05/26 17:27
→ bibobaby2:究三調(調心.調息.調氣),不會有多大成就的 (氣功而言) 05/26 17:28
→ bibobaby2:如果不是以氣功而論,更好了解有沒這程度.. e=mc2 05/26 17:29
→ bibobaby2:所以說太多都沒用,一看就知道.. (補正:調身.息.心) 05/26 17:31
→ bibobaby2: 早點睡.看好時辰是對地 XDD 05/26 17:32
→ ilanese:我的老師是說等你到一定程度時,自然就會創造出一套適合你 05/26 18:41
→ ilanese:自己的功法,不過在這之前,還是向別人多學點吧!(不一定 05/26 18:42
→ ilanese:要拜師,重點是觀念,還有自己的程度要夠。) 05/26 18:42
→ ilanese:我自己走的這條路線,根本就是怪異的很(就丹經及氣功書籍 05/26 18:43
→ ilanese:而言。) 05/26 18:43
→ ilanese:論100個人走我這條路線,大概99個會走人的,另一個大概和 05/26 18:46
→ ilanese:我一樣是個怪咖。 05/26 18:47
推 bibobaby2:^^ 05/26 18:52
推 stanlyleu:有更多當下體質與氣候是不適合灸的。 05/26 20:28
推 stanlyleu:似乎有點誤解我的化了,我並非堅持不要跟師傅,而是為人 05/26 20:31
→ stanlyleu:謹慎,又不喜一堆人的環境,一堆師兄師弟還要常半活動的 05/26 20:32
→ stanlyleu:肯定不適合我,因為我自幼的恩師幾乎是一個對少個或一 05/26 20:33
→ stanlyleu:對一,而且如daouz說的 台北很多老師,那麼多老師要一 05/26 20:33
→ stanlyleu:個一個拜訪以及選擇不知從何下手,所以終究習慣自幼的 05/26 20:34
→ stanlyleu:隨緣,跟恩師研究各種東西 他也是叫我先看書,在跟他作 05/26 20:35
→ stanlyleu:討論,並非一開始就教學起來,習慣問題吧,績於這樣, 05/26 20:36
→ stanlyleu:所以我最後說推薦書籍與推薦老師,畢竟各位跟過老師 知 05/26 20:36
→ stanlyleu:道一些值得推薦的,不然市面上真真假假一堆。書籍在我 05/26 20:38
→ stanlyleu:心中的地位沒那麼低,總不能一味地完全接受指導老師的觀 05/26 20:39
→ stanlyleu:念有點危險 05/26 20:40
推 stanlyleu:基本上禁灸有更多條文,心血管與糖尿病也未必就完全不能 05/26 20:44
推 daouz:I兄也是有老師的 懂得訪師是很重要的一件事 05/26 22:56
推 bibobaby2:^^ 05/26 23:16
推 mailchinger:i兄這個說法 滿有趣的 05/26 23:23
推 mailchinger:我自己的經驗 靜下心來跟意識不斷運作 氣的本質上 05/26 23:58
→ mailchinger:有差異 05/26 23:59
→ mailchinger:但是我目前並分不出 孰好孰壞 也許這也不是好與壞 05/27 00:01
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