2018ALCS之前的會議預告了太空人作弊的命運 - 美國職棒

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來源: NY POST
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‘We’re dead’: The ominous ALCS meeting that foretold Astros cheating doom
"我們死定了": 2018年ALCS前的會議預告了太空人作弊的命運

Joe Torre reportedly warned the Astros and Red Sox what was going to happen
if they were in fact cheating.
據報導,Joe Torre曾經警告過太空人以及紅襪若是他們真的有作弊的話,結果會是如
何。

By then, it was already too late.
不過在那時候,一切都來不及了。

Torre met with the Astros and Red Sox before they faced off in the 2018 ALCS
and warned them that any secret cheating — like illegal sign stealing —
they may have been doing would not remain a secret forever, according to ESPN
’s Karl Ravech. The meeting included the general managers and managers from
both teams — Jeff Luhnow, Dave Dombrowski, AJ Hinch and Alex Cora — and was
led by Torre, MLB’s chief baseball officer at the time.
根據ESPN記者Karl Ravech的報導,在2018 ALCS開始前,Torre跟太空人以及紅襪開會過,
並且警告他們任何偷偷來的作弊--像是非法偷暗號--這些行為不會一直都不被爆出來的。
那場會議參與的包括兩邊的總管以及總教練--Jeff Luhnow,Dave Dombrowski,AJ Hinch
跟Alex Cora--以及主持這場會議,當時擔任聯盟棒球長的Joe Torre。

“Torre basically said to the teams, both of them and those people and anyone
else that was in the room, look, if you’re inclined or have gotten away with
or are doing anything that would violate the rules that you are all aware of
or should be aware of, you’re gonna have to understand at some point, there’
s going to be a player, or players or a front office person that’s going to
leave your team, go to another team and basically rat you guys out. Basically
tell the dirty secrets,” Ravech said on ESPN’s “Baseball Tonight” podcast.
「Torre基本上跟這兩隊以及那間會議室裡的其他人說,聽著,若是有人想要做,或者已經
做過但是沒被抓到,或是正在做有違反規則的行為,而且也知道是違反規則或者是應該要
知道是違反規則的,一定會有個球員,或是幾個球員,或是制服組裡的人,他們可能要離
開你們去別的球隊,他們就會把你們供出來,把這些骯髒事都抖出來,」Ravech在ESPN的
podcast節目上說到。

“Whether Joe Torre was aware at that point of what was coming from Mike
Fiers, and there’s no evidence to believe that, but I was told that message
and that meeting scared the heck out of those guys in that room to the point
that they acknowledged ‘we’re in trouble, we’re dead, so we cannot
continue to particular behavior.’ In the case of the person or persons that
told me that, the behavior changed.”
「不管Joe Torre是不是已經知道Mike Fiers的事情,目前的證據也不支持,但是我有聽到
那場會議以及會議裡講的訊息真的嚇到那些人,嚇到他們真的了解到"我們有麻煩了,我們
死定了,我們不能再繼續做那些奇怪的事了"。跟我講的人他說,他們行為有改變了。」

Of course, it was Fiers — a pitcher on the 2017 Astros now with the
Athletics — who finally went public in November and told The Athletic about
the club’s illegal sign-stealing program. That led to MLB investigating the
claims in full and outing the Astros as cheaters during the 2017 season and
part of 2018.
當然,是因為Fiers--2017年太空人的投手現在是在運動家--在11月的時候出來爆料,跟球
隊講有關非法偷暗號的事情,這才讓聯盟出來調查發現太空人在2017年以及2018年部分球
季有作弊。

The Red Sox, who went on to win the ALCS and World Series after Torre’s
meeting, are still under investigation for allegedly using electronics to
steal signs in 2018. The final MLB report on the findings has been pushed
back after commissioner Rob Manfred originally said he hoped to have it done
by the start of spring training.
在跟Torre會面後,紅襪那年是拿下ALCS以及世界大賽冠軍,現在則是因為2018年被控使用
電子儀器偷暗號在調查中。原本主席Rob Manfred是說希望在春訓前可以有完整報告,不過
目前是暫時推遲的。

The fallout of the Red Sox investigation is not believed to be as harsh as it
was for the Astros, according to multiple reports. But the longer it is drawn
out, the more questions surround it.
根據一些報導,紅襪調查報告的結果不認為會跟太空人一樣慘。但是拖的越久,會引發更
多的疑問。

“The length of time this is taking is uncomfortable, let’s put it that way,
” Ravech said.
「我們可以這樣說, 調查這件事所花的時間讓人很不舒服,」Ravech說。

MLB suspended Luhnow and Hinch for a year — before the Astros promptly fired
them both — fined the club $5 million and docked them draft picks. Cora, who
was Hinch’s bench coach in 2017, parted ways with the Red Sox for his role
in the scandal.
聯盟給了Luhnow跟Hinch一年水桶--之後太空人就把這兩人給開除了--球團被罰了500萬鎂
以及選秀簽。Cora是2017年太空人的板凳教練,也因為他在這醜聞裡的角色跟紅襪分道揚
鑣。
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All Comments

Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2020-03-04T07:49
不請個24HR保全顧嗎
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2020-03-06T01:00
24HR去當保全?
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2020-03-10T02:43
Puig自己才21HR
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2020-03-11T05:11
24小時啦誰跟你24轟
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2020-03-14T23:18
難怪都在作弊 畢竟看起來沒影響
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2020-03-19T00:29
真的跟太空人一樣慘感覺也還好耶
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2020-03-22T18:09
懲罰這麼輕叫死定了 球員都全身而退
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2020-03-27T00:58
死定了 可是還沒死 還在外面活蹦亂跳的 安啦沒事
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2020-03-30T12:11
說是死定了卻是這種懲罰,連小朋友都笑了吧
根本沒什麼好怕的啊XD
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2020-03-31T10:01
很慘嗎? 目前為止不會啊
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2020-04-03T08:05
有怎樣嗎?作弊仔爽拿冠軍,還能出來講幹話,開嘲諷,歡
迎來到真實世界XD
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2020-04-07T14:42
Mike Fiers不是早就跟綠帽球團說.綠帽跟聯盟反應被吃
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2020-04-08T02:49
案才自己找媒體爆料.
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2020-04-08T07:12
說個笑話 2017WS
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2020-04-12T12:12
Manfred:喔。(挖鼻孔)
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2020-04-12T23:48
死定了的是MLB的收視群收視率,觀眾發現被騙走人
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2020-04-14T12:53
不是阿,我看你們現在也是過的挺好的呢:)
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2020-04-16T03:17
剛剛才看到原來昨天某粉專還開群嘲
看來從上到下都過得很好呢~
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2020-04-19T02:25
拖瑞爺應該作主席才對..
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2020-04-19T23:50
某角落表示:
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2020-04-20T22:24
聯盟也怕被抖出來說「當年早就知道」才那麼軟嗎?
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2020-04-24T13:40
大聯盟重新定義「死定了」
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2020-04-28T07:03
2018年肯定已經有人跟大聯盟爆料了吧 只是隱瞞不處理
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2020-04-30T21:10
是我標準高還是這篇標準低 這樣死定
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2020-05-04T16:42
不認為跟太空人一樣慘………太空人有慘?
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2020-05-08T13:57
完全沒事啊 爽
還好當時有偷
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2020-05-11T13:56
所以官方早就知情 藏不住才處理?
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2020-05-16T13:52
嚇到啥? 根本沒受罰啊 還囂張的咧
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2020-05-20T17:33
狹路相逢勇者勝 怕的就輸了
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2020-05-24T06:11
沒事兒沒事
David avatar
By David
at 2020-05-25T17:18
MLB得處罰很輕阿 哪有死定了的感覺
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-05-28T21:21
打錯了辣 We 're Dad才對 阿曼跟克仔是老爸會罩你
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2020-05-31T05:28
所以代表其他被影射的四隊下庄了? 沒被聯盟找啊
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2020-05-31T12:21
啊沒事 單純這兩隊互打所以沒任何關連
David avatar
By David
at 2020-06-04T21:06
we是說這兩隊以外的人吧 拉基
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2020-06-05T16:42
作弊的還嗆人 過得很爽啊
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2020-06-06T09:01
問題是結果論也沒有死定了啊
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2020-06-10T17:47
壞掉的只有名聲,但是好名聲有可能拿不到大約跟冠軍,作
弊可以
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2020-06-10T20:23
看起來不作弊是拿不到冠軍的
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2020-06-12T01:30
Manfred:太空人已經得到了規定上限的罰金,而且他們會
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2020-06-12T07:30
一直承受大眾的質疑,一想到那些認真打球的太空人球員
他們的努力被抹煞,我就覺得痛心疾首。
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2020-06-16T21:38
我們應該向前看,不要再糾結於過去的事情了。
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-06-21T06:36
重新定義死定了
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2020-06-24T23:47
感謝翻譯。沒拔太空人冠軍我超失望
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2020-06-26T12:50
馬照跑 舞照跳 還真是死定了
David avatar
By David
at 2020-06-27T20:18
死定了是指不思長進的其他28隊吧
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2020-06-30T05:22
寧可放過 不可錯殺 沒事兒
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2020-07-04T13:40
罰則詭異 公開回答詭異 怪誰
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2020-07-08T20:10
死定了 笑死
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2020-07-08T21:42
早知道是這種懲罰我就不停了
George avatar
By George
at 2020-07-10T06:38
https://imgur.com/ydK7ENL
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2020-07-10T10:10
這種懲罰當然是繼續作好作滿
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2020-07-12T03:01
笑死 哪裡慘
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2020-07-13T14:19
重新定義 死定了
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2020-07-13T23:41
https://es.pn/39XjwW6 MLB早被通知Astros的事沒行動
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2020-07-17T16:56
不痛不癢的懲罰。。。
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2020-07-21T21:04
死定了? 誰?
Una avatar
By Una
at 2020-07-22T15:14
死定了死定了(翹腳摳鼻)
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2020-07-26T02:32
辣雞聯盟
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2020-07-28T21:19
笑死的嗎?
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2020-07-29T02:49
罰這麼輕叫死定了XD
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2020-07-29T15:45
HBP多吃幾顆再來哎
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-08-01T15:25
好弱的死定了
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2020-08-05T05:35
有個疑問 去年世界大賽太空在主場有作弊嗎
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2020-08-10T02:32
樓上,七場全作弊
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2020-08-14T11:15
我們死定了 伊莎貝爾

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