版上有老黃蜂迷嗎? - NBA

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: 標題: Re: [討論] 版上有老黃蜂迷嗎?
: 時間: Thu Jul 9 22:34:09 2015
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: ※ 引述《davidex (  ̄□ ̄)/喔~~喔喔~~喔喔)》之銘言:
: : 我承認對黃蜂這支球隊完全不熟悉,對老闆的認識度還比旗下全部球員高很多。
: : 有老黃蜂迷要分析一下,林來到這支隊伍,會激起多大的化學變化嗎?
: : 而且回到東區,不禁讓人期待起當年林來瘋的旋風即將再起呀。
: 你說的現在這隻新的黃蜂隊 是前夏洛特"山貓"隊
: 2004年才成立 是歷史多悠久? 也才成立11年而已
:
: 而你說的"老黃蜂"隊 應該是指有Alonzo Mourning.Muggsy Bogues
:
: 甚至是蜂王 G.Rice這隻黃蜂隊
:
: 它成立於1988年 後來搬到"紐澳良" 變成紐奧良黃蜂隊(從東區-->西區)
:
: 這時候明星球員有Jamal Mashburn.Baron Davis...
:
: 後來才又改成鵜鶘隊 也就是以A.Davis為首的球隊
你如果要談搬遷跟場館沿革,那是一回事,
但是你用球員來分類,那你這篇就完全不對,
前篇推文戲稱的老蜂迷,也都一樣是用球員來分的,不外乎晨星、祖母、Rice、Bogues
,既然用球員來分,那這些球員的歷史就完全屬於現任的夏洛特黃蜂,是故晨星時代
老蜂迷的說法根本完全沒有問題,晨星就是夏洛特的人。
且不說黃蜂板主已有兩篇文說明夏洛特過往歷史(推文中亦有),詳參:
http://www.sportsv.net/articles/25 黃蜂:夏洛特,我們回來了!
http://www.sportsv.net/articles/16462 林迷與林酸的第一篇夏洛特黃蜂指南
再者,因車禍身亡,打過那支黃蜂隊的Bobby Phills球衣也是退休在現任夏洛特黃蜂
http://tinyurl.com/od5wcbw
(Charlotte Hornets to bring Bobby Phills' retired jersey back home)
再來,以球員來歸屬歷史,不管是籃球統計資料網站或維基,都已將MJ買回的黃蜂
球員紀錄、出賽歷史代表隊與隊史累積紀錄更改為現任夏洛特黃蜂
詳參夏洛特黃蜂wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Hornets
1985–88: Birth of the Hornets
2002–04: Relocation and establishing the Bobcats
2014–present: Return of the Hornets
往下看隊史紀錄,你說的所有人全部都在現任夏洛特黃蜂的歷史內
包括Rice、LJ、Mason、EJ(再包括山貓時期GW、Okafor、big AL等)
所以老黃蜂,就是你說的Rice這支老黃蜂,但它不是紐澳良水鳥,不然Phills應該在
現任水鳥退休。
再看水鳥wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Pelicans
以球員代表出賽歷史來分,這支老蜂的隊史紀錄
僅包括紐澳良黃蜂時期的CP3、AD、BD、教練Scott、以及隨著變為紐黃的Mashburn等
完全沒有Rice等人代表夏洛特黃蜂的紀錄被併入,也就是說用人來分,
稱晨星、祖母時代老蜂迷的黃蜂,跟水鳥不一樣,這用法應該才是對的。
而不是用球員來稱老蜂時代,你卻把它劃入水鳥隊,你這樣用法反而比較有問題。
至於你說官網把Kobe紀錄為鵜鶘,我是查不到,但查統計網站BR的Kobe
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html
July 11, 1996: Traded by the Charlotte Hornets to the Los Angeles Lakers for
Vlade Divac.
人家也是修正為黃蜂,而不是紐澳良鵜鶘
所以口語上使用著名球員時代閒聊分類老蜂時代時,晨星Rice等人當年代表的黃蜂
毫無疑問是現任夏洛特黃蜂,而不是紐澳良鵜鶘,用法絕對正確。
往後可直接套用ZO、LJ、Rice、Bogues主戰時代,自稱老蜂迷。
因為紐澳良鵜鶘沒有這些人,他們只有CP3和AD等。
:
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: 標題: Re: [討論] 版上有老黃蜂迷嗎?
: 時間: Thu Jul 9 22:34:09 2015
:
: ※ 引述《davidex (  ̄□ ̄)/喔~~喔喔~~喔喔)》之銘言:
: : 我承認對黃蜂這支球隊完全不熟悉,對老闆的認識度還比旗下全部球員高很多。
: : 有老黃蜂迷要分析一下,林來到這支隊伍,會激起多大的化學變化嗎?
: : 而且回到東區,不禁讓人期待起當年林來瘋的旋風即將再起呀。
: 你說的現在這隻新的黃蜂隊 是前夏洛特"山貓"隊
: 2004年才成立 是歷史多悠久? 也才成立11年而已
:
: 而你說的"老黃蜂"隊 應該是指有Alonzo Mourning.Muggsy Bogues
:
: 甚至是蜂王 G.Rice這隻黃蜂隊
:
: 它成立於1988年 後來搬到"紐澳良" 變成紐奧良黃蜂隊(從東區-->西區)
:
: 這時候明星球員有Jamal Mashburn.Baron Davis...
:
: 後來才又改成鵜鶘隊 也就是以A.Davis為首的球隊
你如果要談搬遷跟場館沿革,那是一回事,
但是你用球員來分類,那你這篇就完全不對,
前篇推文戲稱的老蜂迷,也都一樣是用球員來分的,不外乎晨星、祖母、Rice、Bogues
,既然用球員來分,那這些球員的歷史就完全屬於現任的夏洛特黃蜂,是故晨星時代
老蜂迷的說法根本完全沒有問題,晨星就是夏洛特的人。
且不說黃蜂板主已有兩篇文說明夏洛特過往歷史(推文中亦有),詳參:
http://www.sportsv.net/articles/25 黃蜂:夏洛特,我們回來了!
http://www.sportsv.net/articles/16462 林迷與林酸的第一篇夏洛特黃蜂指南
再者,因車禍身亡,打過那支黃蜂隊的Bobby Phills球衣也是退休在現任夏洛特黃蜂
http://tinyurl.com/od5wcbw
(Charlotte Hornets to bring Bobby Phills' retired jersey back home)
再來,以球員來歸屬歷史,不管是籃球統計資料網站或維基,都已將MJ買回的黃蜂
球員紀錄、出賽歷史代表隊與隊史累積紀錄更改為現任夏洛特黃蜂
詳參夏洛特黃蜂wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Hornets
1985–88: Birth of the Hornets
2002–04: Relocation and establishing the Bobcats
2014–present: Return of the Hornets
往下看隊史紀錄,你說的所有人全部都在現任夏洛特黃蜂的歷史內
包括Rice、LJ、Mason、EJ(再包括山貓時期GW、Okafor、big AL等)
所以老黃蜂,就是你說的Rice這支老黃蜂,但它不是紐澳良水鳥,不然Phills應該在
現任水鳥退休。
再看水鳥wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Pelicans
以球員代表出賽歷史來分,這支老蜂的隊史紀錄
僅包括紐澳良黃蜂時期的CP3、AD、BD、教練Scott、以及隨著變為紐黃的Mashburn等
完全沒有Rice等人代表夏洛特黃蜂的紀錄被併入,也就是說用人來分,
稱晨星、祖母時代老蜂迷的黃蜂,跟水鳥不一樣,這用法應該才是對的。
而不是用球員來稱老蜂時代,你卻把它劃入水鳥隊,你這樣用法反而比較有問題。
至於你說官網把Kobe紀錄為鵜鶘,我是查不到,但查統計網站BR的Kobe
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html
July 11, 1996: Traded by the Charlotte Hornets to the Los Angeles Lakers for
Vlade Divac.
人家也是修正為黃蜂,而不是紐澳良鵜鶘
所以口語上使用著名球員時代閒聊分類老蜂時代時,晨星Rice等人當年代表的黃蜂
毫無疑問是現任夏洛特黃蜂,而不是紐澳良鵜鶘,用法絕對正確。
往後可直接套用ZO、LJ、Rice、Bogues主戰時代,自稱老蜂迷。
因為紐澳良鵜鶘沒有這些人,他們只有CP3和AD等。
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