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By Linda
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看到版上文章被刪除跟告人一事,以下為鍵盤律師看法,供大家參考。
(上總版鬧到要告人是比較難看啦,但發文要花上不少時間被砍難免火氣大,版主是也
有為難之處,互相體諒吧。)
先講結論:
站方授權版主可以依照版規刪除文章,台灣法律在刪文上用妨害電腦使用罪判例不多,
但這有模糊空間,不是不能告喔......
主要是因為ptt文章跟推文是綁在一起的,版主刪除文章同時推文也不見了。
該文章著作權是屬於發文者,站方跟版主有權利依照規範刪文,有爭議可以申訴,但是如
果底下推文很多,甚至推文已經多到有人主張這是他的著作一部分或他合法
的言論權利(當然這要看法官認不認可)
那麼版主若依照版規刪除文章,底下推文內容其實是有爭議的,這在法院上老實說沒判
例之前還真不知道誰會贏誰會輸。(當然推文者要主張訴訟才行)
若依照前面文章被刪除的看來,有爭議地方在於,被S那篇不能回文,其實只要叫他
改標題或重發就好,畢竟那篇快被推爆了。
簡單來說,原作者要告可能難以成立,但推文或作者本身在其文章推文是可能會被告喔。
以巴哈或01為例,刪文是刪那個人的帖而不是整個討論串,因此比較沒這問題。
其他待專業的來分析吧,以上。
版規上S文我自己是建議用警告,備份後再刪除,直接刪對部分推文使用者權利
有侵害問題。
======以下為找到的判例跟文章=====================================
網路上google到的判例用妨害電腦使用罪,這一條主要是針對駭客.公司同事間.男女朋
友間盜用密碼刪除電磁紀錄做判決比較多。
律師郭隆偉看法是:社群網站或論壇刪文的問題,有人會主張言論自由,但這些論壇並非
完全公開的領域,要加入需要簽署規約,並經過版主同意,版主有權限依照版規進行
管理。而且前述行為造成損害公眾或他人的結果時才成立,否則光有”無故取得.刪除
或變更他人電腦或其相關設備之電磁紀錄行為,而無損害的結果,仍不會成罪。
補上站方規定:
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/SYSOP/M.1424422623.A.68C.html
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劣文或退文、開處罰單、設定停權、設定變更文章數數值、設定變更 P 幣數值、
設定變更信箱容量數值、設定變更您於本站擔任之職務、退回註冊、砍除帳號等。
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拒絕為您提供服務並永久終止您之使用。
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(上總版鬧到要告人是比較難看啦,但發文要花上不少時間被砍難免火氣大,版主是也
有為難之處,互相體諒吧。)
先講結論:
站方授權版主可以依照版規刪除文章,台灣法律在刪文上用妨害電腦使用罪判例不多,
但這有模糊空間,不是不能告喔......
主要是因為ptt文章跟推文是綁在一起的,版主刪除文章同時推文也不見了。
該文章著作權是屬於發文者,站方跟版主有權利依照規範刪文,有爭議可以申訴,但是如
果底下推文很多,甚至推文已經多到有人主張這是他的著作一部分或他合法
的言論權利(當然這要看法官認不認可)
那麼版主若依照版規刪除文章,底下推文內容其實是有爭議的,這在法院上老實說沒判
例之前還真不知道誰會贏誰會輸。(當然推文者要主張訴訟才行)
若依照前面文章被刪除的看來,有爭議地方在於,被S那篇不能回文,其實只要叫他
改標題或重發就好,畢竟那篇快被推爆了。
簡單來說,原作者要告可能難以成立,但推文或作者本身在其文章推文是可能會被告喔。
以巴哈或01為例,刪文是刪那個人的帖而不是整個討論串,因此比較沒這問題。
其他待專業的來分析吧,以上。
版規上S文我自己是建議用警告,備份後再刪除,直接刪對部分推文使用者權利
有侵害問題。
======以下為找到的判例跟文章=====================================
網路上google到的判例用妨害電腦使用罪,這一條主要是針對駭客.公司同事間.男女朋
友間盜用密碼刪除電磁紀錄做判決比較多。
律師郭隆偉看法是:社群網站或論壇刪文的問題,有人會主張言論自由,但這些論壇並非
完全公開的領域,要加入需要簽署規約,並經過版主同意,版主有權限依照版規進行
管理。而且前述行為造成損害公眾或他人的結果時才成立,否則光有”無故取得.刪除
或變更他人電腦或其相關設備之電磁紀錄行為,而無損害的結果,仍不會成罪。
補上站方規定:
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/SYSOP/M.1424422623.A.68C.html
摘錄
8、拒絕或終止您的使用(1)
您同意本站各級管理者基於其自行之考量,有權隨時終止本服務或其任何部分,
包含但不限於對您所為之刪除文章、鎖定文章、看板水桶或看板禁止發言、設定
劣文或退文、開處罰單、設定停權、設定變更文章數數值、設定變更 P 幣數值、
設定變更信箱容量數值、設定變更您於本站擔任之職務、退回註冊、砍除帳號等。
前述處分,並非無權或無故之處分,若您不願接受,請勿同意本條款。若本服務
被終止時,本站對您或任何第三人均不承擔責任。
8-1、拒絕或終止您的使用(2)
您同意本站得基於自行之考量,因您透過各種方式威脅、恐嚇其他使用者,或其
他本站有正當理由認為不適當之行為,致影響言論自由以及本站營運時,本站得
拒絕為您提供服務並永久終止您之使用。
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