德維澤談哈扎德、德布洛因、盧卡庫、庫爾圖瓦 - 切爾西足球俱樂部 Chelsea Football Club
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球探:莫帥的厚望壓垮了哈扎德
來源:FourFourTwo 2016-04-23 22:09:45
切爾西球探德維澤認為莫里尼奧想讓哈扎德成為升級版的C羅和梅西,但是壓力
壓垮了哈扎德。
“埃登有著輝煌的時刻。莫里尼奧想把他變成升級版的C羅或者梅西,但這是不
可能的。哈扎德永遠不會變成那樣。埃登就是埃登,有著出色的個人能力,但不可能
成為機器,他也想休息。你永遠不應該讓他扛著球隊,別讓他當隊長,只用告訴他在
旁邊享受自己。
“莫里尼奧是一個贏家,他想從哈扎德那裡獲得更多。他已經很偉大了,所以為
什麼不就此放手呢。莫里尼奧想讓他在每場比賽中扛著球隊,在每場比賽中進球,一
直起著關鍵作用。
“對埃登來說壓力變得太大了,這對他的比賽有損害,這也是莫里尼奧失敗的時
候。在莫里尼奧手下哈扎德從天堂到地獄,招致了壓力和傷病。我希望新教練能以不
同的方式對待他。”
(編輯:姚凡)
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/sg/news/mourinho-wanted-make-hazard-better
-version-messi-chelsea-scout#:GvwZSO2V5oPj2Q
Mourinho wanted to make Hazard a better version of Messi - Chelsea scout
23 April 2016
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藍軍球探:曾勸莫帥弄清德布洛因實力
來源:每日郵報 2016-04-23 18:34:00
切爾西球探德維澤(Piet de Visser)坦言,當莫里尼奧允許德布洛因轉會離開
球隊時,自己曾感到十分惱怒。
這名比利時中場球員只為藍軍踢了9場比賽,但是卻在來到沃爾夫斯堡之後大放
異彩,之後在去年夏天以5500萬英鎊的身價來到了曼城,並無可爭議的成為藍月亮本
賽季表現最好的球員。德布洛因的成功也讓外界質疑莫里尼奧當初的決定,但是德維
澤卻表示當時葡萄牙人告訴他的原因是因為德布洛因不願意在他麾下踢球。
“當德布洛因離開切爾西時,我生了莫里尼奧的氣。” 德維澤在接受HLN體育採
訪時表示,“我們曾有過幾次討論,那時他說:『我覺得這也很可惜,但是這個男孩
自己想離開,他不想在我麾下繼續訓練了。』我告訴他:『是的,這個男孩想上場踢
球,他已經準備好了。』我試著說服莫里尼奧好幾次,想讓他瞭解德布洛因的真正實
力,但是他總是說:『他不想訓練。』”
“我曾去觀看過訓練課,”德維澤補充說,“德布洛因是場上發揮最好的球員。
其實莫里尼奧更關注那些已經在自己職業生涯取得過成就的球員,他喜歡和那些已經
定型的球員合作。他認為德布洛因還需1或2年的時間,但其實那小夥已經準備好了,
而德布洛因自己也知道已經做好上場的準備。”
(編輯:姚凡)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3555050/
Jose Mourinho claimed Kevin De Bruyne was poor in training but he was the
best on the pitch… he only wants to work with fully developed stars,
claims Chelsea scout
By Rory Brigstock-barron - Published: 09:58 GMT, 23 April 2016
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http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2016/4/24/11498020/chelsea-scout
-piet-de-visser-enjoying-his-de-bruyne-lukaku-hazard
Chelsea scout Piet de Visser enjoying his De Bruyne, Lukaku, Hazard,
Mourinho 'I told you so' moment in the sun
By David Pasztor - Apr 24, 2016, 9:55p
Chelsea scout Piet de Visser has never been accused of not having a strong
opinion.
The man close to the ear of Abramovich for over a decade now, and involved
to varying degrees in the acquisitions of the likes of Robben, Kalou,
Alex, Mikel, Lukaku, Courtois, De Bruyne, and even Arnesen and Hiddink,
has now cast his eyes over the smoldering rubble of Chelsea's season and
has seen an opportunity to promote his own brand. He's never been shy
about doing that, which is why his name and his accomplishments (rather
than his failures like Alcides) are so well known.
While that doesn't necessarily make the things he's saying wrong, the
timing is certainly curious, if not poisonous. We can't just ignore them
unfortunately, but I do wonder how this will affect his relationship with
Chelsea. Will we be more inclined to trust his opinions and
recommendations? Will we be more reluctant to work with him, not wanting
more dirty laundry to be aired after something goes wrong? I suppose only
time will tell.
In any case, "Master Scout" De Visser has many strong opinions, and
considering his previous clashes with Mourinho (Alex vs. Boulahrouz, for
example, or the whole Frank Arnesen appointment), most of them making the
media rounds are unsurprisingly about Jose's silly decisions. Some are
from his new book, "Master Scout! The Great Discoveries of Piet de Visser"
(LOL), some are from associated promotional interviews he's given to
various Belgian media outlets, including Het Nieuwsblad. Most of that is
behind a paywall (and not in English), but fortunately Kristof Terreur has
posted a few key passages on Twitter.
A commendable aim, no? Not according to Piet!
"Eden is a player who has moments of brilliance. Mourinho tried to turn
him into an improved version of Messi or Ronaldo, but that is impossible.
Hazard will never be like that. Eden is Eden, a player with brilliant
individual actions, but someone who will never become a machine. He also
wants to relax. You should never make him the player to carry the team.
Don't make him the captain. Just tell him to enjoy himself out there."
"Mourinho is a winner and wanted to get even more out of Eden. He was
already great, though, so why not just leave it at that? Mourinho wanted
him to carry the team in every game, to score every match and to be
decisive all the time. The pressure became too much for Eden and that hurt
his game. That's when Mourinho lost it. Hazard went from heaven to hell
under Mourinho. That led to stress and injuries. I hope the new coach will
treat him differently."
- Piet de Visser; source: HLN via Goal
It's important to keep in mind with these quotes that they are NOT from
Eden Hazard, they are NOT from Jose Mourinho, but rather from a scout,
who, by all indications, is mostly in this for the personal glory. Of
course, same could be said of managers and even players, so just keep the
biases in mind before throwing anybody under the proverbial bus.
Eden may have voiced frustrations along similar lines once, but then we
brought in Fàbregas and Costa to create multiple facets in our attack and
it was all good. By all other indications, the relationship between
manager and star player was one of mutual respect, reasonable
expectations, and a productive professionalism. Plus, if Hazard truly is
such a fragile little summer child, then perhaps we should indeed flog him
off to some willing buyer.
"I was angry with Mourinho when De Bruyne left Chelsea. We had some
discussions. Then he would say: 'Piet, I find it a shame too, but the boy
wants to leave. He doesn't want to train under me anymore.' I told him:
'Yes, the boy wants to play. He's ready for it.' I have tried to convince
him of Kevin's qualities. But then Mourinho repeated: 'Piet, he doesn't
want to train.' Until I went to see a training session: Kevin was the best
player on the pitch. Look, Mourinho is a performance focused manager, who
has achieved a lot in his career. He wants to work with fully developed
players. He thought Kevin needed one, maybe two years. But Kevin was
ready. And Kevin was convinced he was ready too."
- Piet de Visser; source: HLN via @HLNinEngeland
So that's nothing really new. Mourinho wasn't sold on KDB despite others'
differing opinions (including Piet's that KDB was going to end up being
worth "tenfold" his purchase price). Meanwhile, the kid wanted to play, so
there was only one possible way forward. Jose tried to prevent the sale
itself, but De Bruyne was not interested in another loan, so we couldn't
just stockpile him for the next season or two and wait for him to reach
his current level. We move on.
"I fought to keep Lukaku at Chelsea, but Mourinho thought he wasn't ready.
The manager takes the decisions — I'm only a scout. In my book I've
called Lukaku a holding striker. Some people don't agree with me, but I'm
looking at a bigger picture. He can control a ball, shield it, but he
doesn't have that pure dribbling technique. He's no Wayne Rooney. Lukaku
is in my eyes a class better than Benteke. Romelu is ready for a next step
in the summer. I would like to see him with better players around him.
Does he have to return to Chelsea? I would down a bottle of wine if De
Bruyne and Lukaku ever sign for Chelsea again."
- Piet de Visser; source: HLN via @HLNinEngeland
Basically the same story and a similarly untenable situation with Lukaku
as with his good pal De Bruyne. We tried to move on here, too, but recent
rumors have thrown us back into this quagmire. Given Everton's atrocious
season, Lukaku's proclamation of a possible move to "a club like Chelsea"
(or even Chelsea?) next year doesn't seem like the strangest thing ever
now.
The last of our Belgian quartet is goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois. Here, for
a change, De Visser has not found any fault with Mourinho.
"I went to watch Lukaku in a youth game, but during stoppage time, I
decided to walk to another pitch. There, I saw a goalkeeper making an
amazing save — so stylish. He was agile, he got fast to the ground and
was strong in the air. I was already thinking: 'That's going to be my
goalkeeper'. When he made his debut for Genk, I immediately sounded the
alarm bells at Chelsea. Everybody was immediately convinced of his
qualities. Everybody! Neuer is currently the best goalkeeper in the world,
but Thibaut can become better than him. Neuer is just more experienced.
Thibaut is very very stress-resistant. Like Edwin van der Sar. Courtois is
a better version of Van der Sar."
- Piet de Visser; source: HLN via @HLNinEngeland
Having hitched our wagon long-term to the kid, hopefully De Visser's eye
for talent doesn't fail us in Courtois's case. No one will bat a thousand
when it comes to identifying talent, not De Visser, not Mourinho, not
Emenalo, not even you while playing Football Manager.
De Visser may have some strong, controversial opinions, but he has proven
repeatedly that he also has a strong eye for talent. So perhaps he should
just stick to that and keep his opinions out of our business once he's
done his job as a scout.
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球探:莫帥的厚望壓垮了哈扎德
來源:FourFourTwo 2016-04-23 22:09:45
切爾西球探德維澤認為莫里尼奧想讓哈扎德成為升級版的C羅和梅西,但是壓力
壓垮了哈扎德。
“埃登有著輝煌的時刻。莫里尼奧想把他變成升級版的C羅或者梅西,但這是不
可能的。哈扎德永遠不會變成那樣。埃登就是埃登,有著出色的個人能力,但不可能
成為機器,他也想休息。你永遠不應該讓他扛著球隊,別讓他當隊長,只用告訴他在
旁邊享受自己。
“莫里尼奧是一個贏家,他想從哈扎德那裡獲得更多。他已經很偉大了,所以為
什麼不就此放手呢。莫里尼奧想讓他在每場比賽中扛著球隊,在每場比賽中進球,一
直起著關鍵作用。
“對埃登來說壓力變得太大了,這對他的比賽有損害,這也是莫里尼奧失敗的時
候。在莫里尼奧手下哈扎德從天堂到地獄,招致了壓力和傷病。我希望新教練能以不
同的方式對待他。”
(編輯:姚凡)
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/sg/news/mourinho-wanted-make-hazard-better
-version-messi-chelsea-scout#:GvwZSO2V5oPj2Q
Mourinho wanted to make Hazard a better version of Messi - Chelsea scout
23 April 2016
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://voice.hupu.com/soccer/2024569.html
藍軍球探:曾勸莫帥弄清德布洛因實力
來源:每日郵報 2016-04-23 18:34:00
切爾西球探德維澤(Piet de Visser)坦言,當莫里尼奧允許德布洛因轉會離開
球隊時,自己曾感到十分惱怒。
這名比利時中場球員只為藍軍踢了9場比賽,但是卻在來到沃爾夫斯堡之後大放
異彩,之後在去年夏天以5500萬英鎊的身價來到了曼城,並無可爭議的成為藍月亮本
賽季表現最好的球員。德布洛因的成功也讓外界質疑莫里尼奧當初的決定,但是德維
澤卻表示當時葡萄牙人告訴他的原因是因為德布洛因不願意在他麾下踢球。
“當德布洛因離開切爾西時,我生了莫里尼奧的氣。” 德維澤在接受HLN體育採
訪時表示,“我們曾有過幾次討論,那時他說:『我覺得這也很可惜,但是這個男孩
自己想離開,他不想在我麾下繼續訓練了。』我告訴他:『是的,這個男孩想上場踢
球,他已經準備好了。』我試著說服莫里尼奧好幾次,想讓他瞭解德布洛因的真正實
力,但是他總是說:『他不想訓練。』”
“我曾去觀看過訓練課,”德維澤補充說,“德布洛因是場上發揮最好的球員。
其實莫里尼奧更關注那些已經在自己職業生涯取得過成就的球員,他喜歡和那些已經
定型的球員合作。他認為德布洛因還需1或2年的時間,但其實那小夥已經準備好了,
而德布洛因自己也知道已經做好上場的準備。”
(編輯:姚凡)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3555050/
Jose Mourinho claimed Kevin De Bruyne was poor in training but he was the
best on the pitch… he only wants to work with fully developed stars,
claims Chelsea scout
By Rory Brigstock-barron - Published: 09:58 GMT, 23 April 2016
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2016/4/24/11498020/chelsea-scout
-piet-de-visser-enjoying-his-de-bruyne-lukaku-hazard
Chelsea scout Piet de Visser enjoying his De Bruyne, Lukaku, Hazard,
Mourinho 'I told you so' moment in the sun
By David Pasztor - Apr 24, 2016, 9:55p
Chelsea scout Piet de Visser has never been accused of not having a strong
opinion.
The man close to the ear of Abramovich for over a decade now, and involved
to varying degrees in the acquisitions of the likes of Robben, Kalou,
Alex, Mikel, Lukaku, Courtois, De Bruyne, and even Arnesen and Hiddink,
has now cast his eyes over the smoldering rubble of Chelsea's season and
has seen an opportunity to promote his own brand. He's never been shy
about doing that, which is why his name and his accomplishments (rather
than his failures like Alcides) are so well known.
While that doesn't necessarily make the things he's saying wrong, the
timing is certainly curious, if not poisonous. We can't just ignore them
unfortunately, but I do wonder how this will affect his relationship with
Chelsea. Will we be more inclined to trust his opinions and
recommendations? Will we be more reluctant to work with him, not wanting
more dirty laundry to be aired after something goes wrong? I suppose only
time will tell.
In any case, "Master Scout" De Visser has many strong opinions, and
considering his previous clashes with Mourinho (Alex vs. Boulahrouz, for
example, or the whole Frank Arnesen appointment), most of them making the
media rounds are unsurprisingly about Jose's silly decisions. Some are
from his new book, "Master Scout! The Great Discoveries of Piet de Visser"
(LOL), some are from associated promotional interviews he's given to
various Belgian media outlets, including Het Nieuwsblad. Most of that is
behind a paywall (and not in English), but fortunately Kristof Terreur has
posted a few key passages on Twitter.
A commendable aim, no? Not according to Piet!
"Eden is a player who has moments of brilliance. Mourinho tried to turn
him into an improved version of Messi or Ronaldo, but that is impossible.
Hazard will never be like that. Eden is Eden, a player with brilliant
individual actions, but someone who will never become a machine. He also
wants to relax. You should never make him the player to carry the team.
Don't make him the captain. Just tell him to enjoy himself out there."
"Mourinho is a winner and wanted to get even more out of Eden. He was
already great, though, so why not just leave it at that? Mourinho wanted
him to carry the team in every game, to score every match and to be
decisive all the time. The pressure became too much for Eden and that hurt
his game. That's when Mourinho lost it. Hazard went from heaven to hell
under Mourinho. That led to stress and injuries. I hope the new coach will
treat him differently."
- Piet de Visser; source: HLN via Goal
It's important to keep in mind with these quotes that they are NOT from
Eden Hazard, they are NOT from Jose Mourinho, but rather from a scout,
who, by all indications, is mostly in this for the personal glory. Of
course, same could be said of managers and even players, so just keep the
biases in mind before throwing anybody under the proverbial bus.
Eden may have voiced frustrations along similar lines once, but then we
brought in Fàbregas and Costa to create multiple facets in our attack and
it was all good. By all other indications, the relationship between
manager and star player was one of mutual respect, reasonable
expectations, and a productive professionalism. Plus, if Hazard truly is
such a fragile little summer child, then perhaps we should indeed flog him
off to some willing buyer.
"I was angry with Mourinho when De Bruyne left Chelsea. We had some
discussions. Then he would say: 'Piet, I find it a shame too, but the boy
wants to leave. He doesn't want to train under me anymore.' I told him:
'Yes, the boy wants to play. He's ready for it.' I have tried to convince
him of Kevin's qualities. But then Mourinho repeated: 'Piet, he doesn't
want to train.' Until I went to see a training session: Kevin was the best
player on the pitch. Look, Mourinho is a performance focused manager, who
has achieved a lot in his career. He wants to work with fully developed
players. He thought Kevin needed one, maybe two years. But Kevin was
ready. And Kevin was convinced he was ready too."
- Piet de Visser; source: HLN via @HLNinEngeland
So that's nothing really new. Mourinho wasn't sold on KDB despite others'
differing opinions (including Piet's that KDB was going to end up being
worth "tenfold" his purchase price). Meanwhile, the kid wanted to play, so
there was only one possible way forward. Jose tried to prevent the sale
itself, but De Bruyne was not interested in another loan, so we couldn't
just stockpile him for the next season or two and wait for him to reach
his current level. We move on.
"I fought to keep Lukaku at Chelsea, but Mourinho thought he wasn't ready.
The manager takes the decisions — I'm only a scout. In my book I've
called Lukaku a holding striker. Some people don't agree with me, but I'm
looking at a bigger picture. He can control a ball, shield it, but he
doesn't have that pure dribbling technique. He's no Wayne Rooney. Lukaku
is in my eyes a class better than Benteke. Romelu is ready for a next step
in the summer. I would like to see him with better players around him.
Does he have to return to Chelsea? I would down a bottle of wine if De
Bruyne and Lukaku ever sign for Chelsea again."
- Piet de Visser; source: HLN via @HLNinEngeland
Basically the same story and a similarly untenable situation with Lukaku
as with his good pal De Bruyne. We tried to move on here, too, but recent
rumors have thrown us back into this quagmire. Given Everton's atrocious
season, Lukaku's proclamation of a possible move to "a club like Chelsea"
(or even Chelsea?) next year doesn't seem like the strangest thing ever
now.
The last of our Belgian quartet is goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois. Here, for
a change, De Visser has not found any fault with Mourinho.
"I went to watch Lukaku in a youth game, but during stoppage time, I
decided to walk to another pitch. There, I saw a goalkeeper making an
amazing save — so stylish. He was agile, he got fast to the ground and
was strong in the air. I was already thinking: 'That's going to be my
goalkeeper'. When he made his debut for Genk, I immediately sounded the
alarm bells at Chelsea. Everybody was immediately convinced of his
qualities. Everybody! Neuer is currently the best goalkeeper in the world,
but Thibaut can become better than him. Neuer is just more experienced.
Thibaut is very very stress-resistant. Like Edwin van der Sar. Courtois is
a better version of Van der Sar."
- Piet de Visser; source: HLN via @HLNinEngeland
Having hitched our wagon long-term to the kid, hopefully De Visser's eye
for talent doesn't fail us in Courtois's case. No one will bat a thousand
when it comes to identifying talent, not De Visser, not Mourinho, not
Emenalo, not even you while playing Football Manager.
De Visser may have some strong, controversial opinions, but he has proven
repeatedly that he also has a strong eye for talent. So perhaps he should
just stick to that and keep his opinions out of our business once he's
done his job as a scout.
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