Lowe找不到一個喜歡Gobert交易到灰狼的人 - NBA

Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2022-12-05T12:39

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但是在七月時的交易,大家似乎不是這樣說?

可以參考系列文,這邊附上其中三篇的連結
[情報] Gobert去灰狼
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當時大家看好的點:
1.DLO+KAT+Gobert,還沒拿明星就換到,這是要衝擊總冠軍了吧
2.灰狼會進攻,但是欠缺人防守,補進DPOY等級球員,有運動能力跟手長的優勢,,還能cover後場防守,無球/擋拆跟擋人品質也是聯盟頂級,搭配DLO跟KAT的三分,戰績預期起飛
3.DLO在傳球能力也不錯,如果有達到類似Ingles在爵士的情況,也能加成Gobert的威力

當然也是有質疑的點:
1.Gobert值4首輪?因為這樣等於交易了未來,如果真的還要戰績補強,可能就比較沒有籌碼
2.雙塔空間拉開跟防守橫移問題要如何處理
3.雙塔遇到雙衛以及後場點名,要如何解決,灰狼體系是否真的能整合Gobert的進攻跟防守,包含側翼組的輪轉協防,發揮1+1>2的情況

但以當時討論來看,至少也是有一些人看好,畢竟灰狼在之前比較偏重攻輕防的球隊,補進DPOY再怎麼說對於防守預期也是會有一些助益,不過當戰績可能沒達到大家的預期,說法似乎又不同了

不知大家覺得呢?

※ 引述《usnavyseal (usmarine2008)》之銘言:
: https://tinyurl.com/2ncspxfr
: Fadeaway world
: Kirk Goldsberry ESPN 分析師
: Zach Lowe ESPN資深編輯
: 雙方對話
: Kirk Goldsberry: I was not a happy person with that trade for Minnesota. And
: I didn’t expect them to be very good, to be honest. The underrated thing
: about that trade—the assets deserved the headline… but some of the human
: beings that left Minnesota, they’re missing too. And the offense just isn’t
: good enough right now. And they’re losing the minutes with Gobert. You pay
: that much for a guy, and he comes in, and you’re a negative team when he’s
: on the floor right now.
: …
: Kirk:對於灰狼的交易,我不滿意,老實說我不期望那筆交易會很好。
: 那筆交易被低估了,雖然資產值得成為頭條新聞,但有些人也離開了灰狼。
: 現在的進攻火力不足,且Gobert上場時他們在輸球
: 你大筆請來一個人,但當他在上場時,團隊的正負值是負的
: Zach Lowe:Almost every trade that is divisive or unpopular—you can find
: some people around the league who will be like, "I kinda see what they were
: going for; I maybe woulda made that deal!"
: Zach:幾乎每筆有爭議的交易,都可以找到一些人說 「我大概知道他們想要幹嘛,
: 我或許也會那樣做」
: The Sabonis-Halliburton one is a good example: I thought people were way too
: critical; I didn’t like that trade for Sacramento; I thought it was a win
: for Indiana. I also thought people were being unfair in how much they railed
: against the Kings. You could find people were like, No, I think it’s Sabonis
: is really good! It’ll work there."
: Sabonis-Halliburton是個好例子,我以為大家太酸了,我也不喜歡國王的交易,我以為
: 溜馬賺到了。
: 我也覺得大家對國王的批判太過火了,你依然可找到人說,不 我覺得Sabonis很棒,很適
: 合國王。
: This one—I don’t think I found anyone who was like, "Here’s a hot take for
: ya, Zach! That’s actually a good trade for Minnesota." I don’t think I
: found anyone around the league who liked that trade for them.
: 灰狼的交易,我不覺得我可以找到人說「Zach 這是我的看法,其實這對灰狼是筆好交易」
: 我不覺得我在聯盟找到喜歡這筆交易的人。
: KG: That’s correct. If you woulda said two less draft picks, it would have
: still garnered a lot skepticism. And they gave up soooo many.
: Kirk:沒錯,如果你說少給兩個選秀籤,或許還有些懷疑,但他們給了太多了。
: 網友留言
: I am just wondering who they were bidding against.
: 我比較好奇他們跟誰競標
: Someone who is happy that they lost the bidding war
: 某人很高興他們輸了這場競標
: We’re Minnesota sports bro, obviously it was gonna be a colossal failure
: 兄弟,我們是明尼蘇達的球隊,很顯然那會是一個巨大的失敗
: 心得
: Ainge $$$$$


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Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2022-12-05T19:27
大家是路人的大家還是算了吧
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2022-12-05T14:47
季末真的磨合起來風向又變給你看
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2022-12-05T21:35
看看之前溜馬,還有活佛+鉛筆,主打攻守雙塔的案例
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2022-12-05T14:47
主要是預期Towns可以轉型大型側翼吧 但就轉型不順
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2022-12-05T21:35
灰狼能丟四首輪,當初怎麼沒換Sabonis
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2022-12-05T14:47
原本預期 主力沒變又多加狗被能更強 小看那些綠葉了
David avatar
By David
at 2022-12-05T21:35
總管不一樣 前任很摳現任很凱
沒有 Towns是全隊轉型最好的那個
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2022-12-05T14:47
那就要訪問那些當初覺得有戲/很搭的人了啊
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2022-12-05T21:35
結果凱到讓灰狼整個質變……
David avatar
By David
at 2022-12-05T14:47
在金塊就很凱了 有請金塊球迷發言
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2022-12-05T21:35
我印象中當初幾個質疑點是 進攻可能可以但防守會慘
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2022-12-05T14:47
灰狼想找能護框的C幫忙彌補軟糖防守 小沙攻高於守
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2022-12-05T21:35
然後就是連灰狼迷都覺得丟的有點大方
John avatar
By John
at 2022-12-05T14:47
小沙其實防守也不算差
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2022-12-05T21:35
然後就算是看好的 也同意至少要磨個20場再看看 因為
這玩法逆天前期一定會難搞
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2022-12-05T14:47
那價格真的很浮誇 你再看看安吉賣博揚
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2022-12-05T21:35
現在目前超過20場了 可以的話要把時間線拉長到40
場 甚至明星賽前
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2022-12-05T14:47
水鳥當初找表弟來跟AD雙塔大失敗也才給國王還沒養出
來的巴弟加一個首輪
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2022-12-05T21:35
是丟太多了 這種丟法接近ad包裹了
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2022-12-05T14:47
丟太多 不如DLo也丟了
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2022-12-05T21:35
根本沒人看好吧 你說的應該是少數看不懂NBA的人
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2022-12-05T14:47
20場已經這樣了 現在40場 甚至明星賽開打前 陣
容磨合怎麼樣了
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2022-12-05T21:35
水鳥後來起飛是跟Miroti比較有關係吧
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2022-12-05T14:47
四首輪拿去跟湖人換AD估計也換到了,只是要賭他健康
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2022-12-05T21:35
對啊,所以說AD跟表弟雙塔是失敗啊
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2022-12-05T14:47
現在看來表弟被賤賣了 才換到這樣
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2022-12-05T21:35
不然灰狼這現況 可定也不是換教練就能短時間解決
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2022-12-05T14:47
還是有少數看好的球迷啦 不過我想大部分都是「樂觀
點想」的狀態
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2022-12-05T21:35
樂觀…… 現在還能樂觀嗎0.0
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2022-12-05T14:47
天賦狼又不是缺天賦,他是缺瘋狗這樣的人
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-12-05T21:35
我指原po講的內容呀
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2022-12-05T14:47
如果這樣能樂觀 那我也佩服了
喔 0.0
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2022-12-05T21:35
加上Kessler 等於是5首輪,只有拿冠軍才不會虧
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2022-12-05T14:47
還型拉 還有時間 可以玩到季末 真的不行就...
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2022-12-05T21:35
季末太遠了 明星賽前就能知道了
明星賽前狀況還是這樣 那就真的不太妙了
David avatar
By David
at 2022-12-05T14:47
糖糖進去了 好歹評估也要延後
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2022-12-05T21:35
現在看來,防守多個 DPOY 一樣補不起來,這是灰狼整
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2022-12-05T14:47
不過球迷不會管你就是XD
樓上GJ XDDDD
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2022-12-05T21:35
個團隊配置的問題了,而進攻本來就不會期望狗貝。
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2022-12-05T14:47
我管他的XDD
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2022-12-05T21:35
我湖GM表示: 湖迷? (定迪士尼門票ing)
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2022-12-05T14:47
「印象中」看好的人不少 都說這陣容不用擔心進攻
防守補起來會飛天
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2022-12-05T21:35
消息剛出來時沒人知道是四首輪阿 知道後都覺得爵士
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2022-12-05T14:47
搶劫
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2022-12-05T21:35
現在的問題,進攻卡死AE,進攻弱化防守被點名點慘
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2022-12-05T14:47
當初還有意見是說至少有改變有機會
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-12-05T21:35
總之聯盟有些球隊總是會搞砸的 灰狼跟國王更是代表
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2022-12-05T14:47
其實以數據來看的話攻守都在聯盟15名左右
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2022-12-05T21:35
也不一定是狗貝問題,把糖糖交易出去解套雙塔,說不
定灰狼就起飛了
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2022-12-05T14:47
國王目前看起來有起色,灰狼就...何時換教練...
反正一定先換教練XD
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2022-12-05T21:35
比較立即的做法 換教練
換誰 我哥嗎……
Vogel 搞不好還可以喔
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2022-12-05T14:47
AE自己問題也不少,不只進攻被卡死
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2022-12-05T21:35
跟AD差很多喔 AD那包湖人出的小醬跟灰狼綠葉包根本
不能比
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2022-12-05T14:47
結論:馬後炮大家都會
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2022-12-05T21:35
灰狼綠葉包已經丟4首輪
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2022-12-05T14:47
就化學效應 籃球不是1+1>2的運動
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2022-12-05T21:35
Kessler是剛選進來的首輪新秀,所以請正名5首輪(x
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2022-12-05T14:47
看我湖的龜龜到替補才慢慢有點價值
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2022-12-05T21:35
你要算他 確實5首輪啊0.0
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2022-12-05T14:47
現在K大個表現真的棒
教練敢於用他 他表現也回應不錯
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2022-12-05T21:35
就..賭一把
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2022-12-05T14:47
Kessler就低配狗貝R 價格只要十分之一
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2022-12-05T21:35
後撤步也很看好不是?
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2022-12-05T14:47
現代球風要玩雙塔 其中一個要能外圍單防先發等級的
後衛 目前長人裡面有這個能力的也就幾個而已
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2022-12-05T21:35
狗貝是禁區防守頂級 但被拉出來根本就被當洞在打
KAT防守本來就沒多好 這組合很考驗教練啦
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2022-12-05T14:47
會讓戰績退步是真的想不到 原本覺得頂多就持平
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2022-12-05T21:35
不管陣容搭配如何 交易當下看就是給的很大方
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2022-12-05T14:47
目前維持在五成勝率其實也不算真的很糟糕就是了 還
有磨合的機會
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2022-12-05T21:35
交易當下就是灰狼梭哈,但真沒想到竟然會退步
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2022-12-05T14:47
KAT3分是新秀年來最爛,看看教練怎麼調吧。
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2022-12-05T21:35
當初不看好的人比較多
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2022-12-05T14:47
原來是中鋒版本的姆龜互斥
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2022-12-05T21:35
狗貝跟糖糖這季也沒出什麼問題
技能包就長那樣,調度跟戰術才是考驗
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2022-12-05T14:47
湖人都磨了一年近期才開花,灰狼再磨磨看吧
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2022-12-05T21:35
質疑應該要放在前面吧
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2022-12-05T14:47
這個時代誰信雙塔
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2022-12-05T21:35
說看得懂nba的人裡根本沒人看好的,是指推動這筆交
易的灰狼管理層不懂nba?鄉民真的鍵盤懂哥耶,厲害肯
定拿過nba最佳總管之類的人在這裡臥虎藏龍對吧?
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2022-12-05T14:47
Lowe其實有點那個意思 就收割一波流量
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2022-12-05T21:35
康利很會選秀但交易能力超爛
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2022-12-05T14:47
換Gobert 組雙塔可以啊,但用五個首輪其中三個沒有
保護不管看不看得懂都覺得是在搞笑
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2022-12-05T21:35
的確是 鄉民去當湖人GM 都比佩琳卡強多了
不要以為GM就很行 w
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2022-12-05T14:47
說鄉民比佩琳卡強有點離譜 但在判斷上不比某些自以
為專業的自媒體差倒是真的
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2022-12-05T21:35
鄉民應該是不會拿Zubac換給同區同城的隊伍讓他們進
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2022-12-05T14:47
季後賽對吧
John avatar
By John
at 2022-12-05T21:35
鄉民也不會拿褲子,KCP加首輪換龜龜吧?
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2022-12-05T14:47
從沒看好
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2022-12-05T21:35
祖巴那是魔術的鍋就是了
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2022-12-05T14:47
鄉民會拿2014狀元+大年的樂透選秀權,換2015榜眼嗎
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2022-12-05T21:35
有沒比佩總強不知道 但範圍拉到所有GM還真的能夠嘴
幾句
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2022-12-05T14:47
連選秀大年都只有前3保護了XD
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2022-12-05T21:35
到底是什麼操作可以資敵到季後賽名額被買家卡掉還
換空氣的xd
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2022-12-05T14:47
灰狼從Dlo到狗貝都很明顯是在為了糖糖就是了
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2022-12-05T21:35
勇士上一季的冠軍灰狼真的出了大力
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2022-12-05T14:47
本來以為他去灰狼可以掩蓋Towns的防守問題 結果…
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2022-12-05T21:35
狗貝檔拆品質很謎 接球位置影響太大
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2022-12-05T14:47
本來以為他入狼可以讓糖的三分有所發揮 結果…
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2022-12-05T21:35
你跟板上這些每天看一場比賽結果評論的人認真?
不否認NBA版有優質的文章,但酸酸風氣更甚
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2022-12-05T14:47
還是SPACE的問題 現代籃球非常重要的進攻空間

Lowe找不到一個喜歡Gobert交易到灰狼的人

Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2022-12-05T11:51
https://tinyurl.com/2ncspxfr Fadeaway world Kirk Goldsberry ESPN 分析師 Zach Lowe ESPN資深編輯 雙方對話 Kirk Goldsberry: I was not a happy person with that trade ...

咖哩技能包+1

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By Necoo
at 2022-12-05T11:41
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這季從板凳出發最多10助攻場次的:龜龜

Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2022-12-05T10:37
https://tinyurl.com/y3smebuv StatMuse https://i.imgur.com/x2cjLuJ.png 這季從板凳出發最多10助攻場次的 7 — Westbrook 7 — 其他加總 網友留言 He plays so well with AD 他跟AD配合很好 ...

AD本賽季只有一個目標:奪冠

Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2022-12-05T10:25
A.D. says he has only one goal this season: and#34;Win a championship.and#34; AD表示他本賽季只有一個目標:奪得總冠軍。 https://pse.is/4n9h4q 奪冠宣言 一波奪冠的開始 - ...

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By Blanche
at 2022-12-05T10:09
連結: https://bit.ly/3B8vKeQ 內文: 湖人近10場贏8場 AD近10戰平均35.3分、15.6籃板、2.9火鍋、投籃命中率65%、三分命中率46%、罰球命中率8 8%。 Lakers have won 8 of their last 10 games. AD in that ...