Lowe找不到一個喜歡Gobert交易到灰狼的人 - NBA

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By Ophelia
at 2022-12-05T11:51

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Kirk Goldsberry ESPN 分析師
Zach Lowe ESPN資深編輯


雙方對話

Kirk Goldsberry: I was not a happy person with that trade for Minnesota. And
I didn’t expect them to be very good, to be honest. The underrated thing
about that trade—the assets deserved the headline… but some of the human
beings that left Minnesota, they’re missing too. And the offense just isn’t
good enough right now. And they’re losing the minutes with Gobert. You pay
that much for a guy, and he comes in, and you’re a negative team when he’s
on the floor right now.


Kirk:對於灰狼的交易,我不滿意,老實說我不期望那筆交易會很好。
那筆交易被低估了,雖然資產值得成為頭條新聞,但有些人也離開了灰狼。
現在的進攻火力不足,且Gobert上場時他們在輸球
你大筆請來一個人,但當他在上場時,團隊的正負值是負的

Zach Lowe:Almost every trade that is divisive or unpopular—you can find
some people around the league who will be like, "I kinda see what they were
going for; I maybe woulda made that deal!"

Zach:幾乎每筆有爭議的交易,都可以找到一些人說 「我大概知道他們想要幹嘛,
我或許也會那樣做」

The Sabonis-Halliburton one is a good example: I thought people were way too
critical; I didn’t like that trade for Sacramento; I thought it was a win
for Indiana. I also thought people were being unfair in how much they railed
against the Kings. You could find people were like, No, I think it’s Sabonis
is really good! It’ll work there."

Sabonis-Halliburton是個好例子,我以為大家太酸了,我也不喜歡國王的交易,我以為
溜馬賺到了。
我也覺得大家對國王的批判太過火了,你依然可找到人說,不 我覺得Sabonis很棒,很適
合國王。

This one—I don’t think I found anyone who was like, "Here’s a hot take for
ya, Zach! That’s actually a good trade for Minnesota." I don’t think I
found anyone around the league who liked that trade for them.

灰狼的交易,我不覺得我可以找到人說「Zach 這是我的看法,其實這對灰狼是筆好交易」
我不覺得我在聯盟找到喜歡這筆交易的人。

KG: That’s correct. If you woulda said two less draft picks, it would have
still garnered a lot skepticism. And they gave up soooo many.

Kirk:沒錯,如果你說少給兩個選秀籤,或許還有些懷疑,但他們給了太多了。


網友留言

I am just wondering who they were bidding against.
我比較好奇他們跟誰競標

Someone who is happy that they lost the bidding war
某人很高興他們輸了這場競標

We’re Minnesota sports bro, obviously it was gonna be a colossal failure
兄弟,我們是明尼蘇達的球隊,很顯然那會是一個巨大的失敗


心得
Ainge $$$$$

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Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2022-12-05T20:33
這筆交易灰狼確實付出太多
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2022-12-05T12:53
哈 雙塔
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2022-12-05T21:35
安吉:我啊
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2022-12-05T12:53
肯定是跟安吉的內心競價阿
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2022-12-05T21:35
安吉是會下咒是不是讓灰狼掏一堆東西出來
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2022-12-05T12:53
隊友整天噴3分 叫狗貝撿子彈 還以為是易建聯類
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2022-12-05T21:35
唐斯本人不喜歡嗎?交易前沒問過他嗎
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉:哈囉
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2022-12-05T21:35
又一個以為雙塔很猛的
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉:「哈哈哈其實是我啦」
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2022-12-05T21:35
安吉囤籤計畫通 0.0+
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉喜歡阿
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2022-12-05T21:35
不就安吉?
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉被開除人籍
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2022-12-05T21:35
安吉:我喜歡啊 超多籤超爽der 我不是人嗎?
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2022-12-05T12:53
會做出這種交易,安吉簡直不是人
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2022-12-05T21:35
沒阿 當初交易 一堆人喜歡 還說送出去的都....www
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉喜歡
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2022-12-05T21:35
如果磨合失敗 至少有29隊喜歡
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2022-12-05T12:53
這種風向發言沒參考價值 灰狼還有時間
整合成功 你再看看會不會領外的風向 XD
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2022-12-05T21:35
磨合失敗 可以撿便宜 其他隊超愛
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2022-12-05T12:53
整合也要時間啊 XD
真的成功風向就整個大轉變啊
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2022-12-05T21:35
Dlo:first time?
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2022-12-05T12:53
不太可能 整合失敗 看來是有計畫B C之類的
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2022-12-05T21:35
爵士高層很喜歡阿
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2022-12-05T12:53
那也是明年的事情了
就繼續看吧 現在有點旱
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2022-12-05T21:35
但現在看來 灰狼打得也很掙扎
安吉純粹走囤籤 哪知道爵士戰績目前在附加圈上
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2022-12-05T12:53
怎麼沒問安吉
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2022-12-05T21:35
這筆交易做完那瞬間就虧了 灰狼要不虧那麼多就是今
明兩季至少二輪以上 但是目前磨合期五成線抽插 然
後雙塔一個之前確診另一個現在躺一個月 磨合期再度
延長到拿這季全部來磨合
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2022-12-05T12:53
人家說交易雙贏是最好的局面 但這是雙贏局面嗎…
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2022-12-05T21:35
再等等吧 季末就知道了
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2022-12-05T12:53
二輪以上太樂觀了吧 西區那麼可怕
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2022-12-05T21:35
不要鞭屍了 XD
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2022-12-05T12:53
先把唐斯送走
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2022-12-05T21:35
你砸這種資產要winnow而且又是這種不留後路甚至逼
迫AE要快速成長成巨頭的世界線 要是一輪游跟上季有
啥不同
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2022-12-05T12:53
是說這時候all-in到底是..有糖糖和AE 慢慢來就好
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2022-12-05T21:35
安吉:哈哈 是我啦
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2022-12-05T12:53
灰狼目前球隊手上的薪資進程沒辦法跟你慢慢來 KAT S
UPERMAX AE新秀紅利 灰狼的進程已經耽誤兩年了 今年
夏天本來就要補強 只是目標從John Collins這種等
級的補洞 變成overpaid狗貝 這個之間的彈性跟隊形
概念完全不同
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2022-12-05T21:35
灰狼應該先用Kessler跟軟糖實驗雙塔 效果好再梭哈
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2022-12-05T12:53
一下子就梭哈買狗貝 後面如果磨合不好就GG
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2022-12-05T21:35
還是這邊交易還有價值的糖糖
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2022-12-05T12:53
想把握AE的新秀紅利吧 衝滿合理的 去年季後賽打不錯
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2022-12-05T21:35
狼要衝了啦 丟資產補強是沒啥問題 只是標的有問題
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2022-12-05T12:53
本來就被笑得大約 還花大資源搞來
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2022-12-05T21:35
爵士爽的勒
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2022-12-05T12:53
現在急著酸這筆交易就是等之後被打臉而已
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2022-12-05T21:35
安吉:哪有,我超喜歡的
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2022-12-05T12:53
個人覺得狼狼要衝還太早 糖糖確定是未來?
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2022-12-05T21:35
灰狼沒賭成功過
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2022-12-05T12:53
爵士:薛爛
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2022-12-05T21:35
都給SUPERMAX了還不確定是未來?
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2022-12-05T12:53
多花點時間去看看AE-糖糖的適性還不遲
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2022-12-05T21:35
再退一步講進攻端KAT是灰狼首發最正常甚至有超出預
期發揮的人
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2022-12-05T12:53
確定了吧 supermax不是給了?
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2022-12-05T21:35
恩? 我湖的LBJ表示:A.A
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2022-12-05T12:53
找來狗貝補防守 籃板 結果每場幾乎都輸
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2022-12-05T21:35
就一堆把AE捧上天的 以為至少有米丘加狗貝的效應 軟
糖可以當高側翼完全解放進攻 灰狼要起飛了
結果對比米丘mvp身手 AE就是個過譽仔
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2022-12-05T12:53
不如說 你給supermax 結果還要找狗貝來補防守
然後你跟我說未來 連灰狼高層都不認同了...
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2022-12-05T21:35
不然捕的就不會是DPOY的狗貝了
就補個普工苦力中鋒就好
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2022-12-05T12:53
簡單說你all-in狗貝的當下 就是在否定糖糖的防守
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2022-12-05T21:35
籤給太多
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2022-12-05T12:53
你付出交換的籤越多 這否定就越重
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2022-12-05T21:35
沒有比較 沒有傷害 米丘真香
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉被開除人籍了
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2022-12-05T21:35
看成love
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2022-12-05T12:53
灰狼哪有管籤的 最近kuminga越打越好我又想感謝一次
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2022-12-05T21:35
XDDD
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2022-12-05T12:53
Dlo約也快到了 灰狼會續嗎 不續=圍巾+苦命換空氣
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2022-12-05T21:35
超白痴 交易包裹就夠盤了 找來狗貝禁區超擠 直接壓
縮雙衛跟towns發揮空間
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2022-12-05T12:53
這包強的是還擋下潛在KD交易 今年最大搶劫
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2022-12-05T21:35
本來就補個苦力就行了 覺得要補就補最好的是康納利
和新老闆的問題
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2022-12-05T12:53
不知道欸 不惜代價找狗貝 看起來整個攻防失序
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2022-12-05T21:35
找狗貝打檔拆 有這樣大量使用嗎……
啊現在看起來 狗貝真的是來卡位兼撿子彈
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2022-12-05T12:53
這包搶AD還差不多 結果搶的是狗貝
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2022-12-05T21:35
籃網表示:狗貝都能換到那麼多,沒道理KD不行...XD
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2022-12-05T12:53
阿就在高層眼裡 糖糖的防守破到 要all in DPOY阿...
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2022-12-05T21:35
所以糖糖是未來...嗎?
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2022-12-05T12:53
軟糖是未來的話,不是應該讓軟糖把防守練起來
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2022-12-05T21:35
糖糖跟未來沒關係 他就是球隊中堅保底的戰力 AE才是
未來
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2022-12-05T12:53
沒錯 這是正常人邏輯 不是應該把防守修好嗎XD
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2022-12-05T21:35
與其這樣 找個代價相對小的標的物就好了……
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2022-12-05T12:53
有比湖人免費送Zubuc給快艇蠢嗎
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2022-12-05T21:35
灰狼管理層本來就腦殘,送圍巾還送大年7號簽換來一
個不怎樣的Dlo,我看交易給爵士的簽很多也是樂透
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉最喜歡 萌A萌A萌A
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2022-12-05T21:35
這幾年讓糖糖穩定輸出 AE逐步成長 再調整隊形決定球
隊走向 直接梭哈就是把時間線進程拉快了
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2022-12-05T12:53
灰狼四巨頭你敢嘴?!下季組五巨頭給你看
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2022-12-05T21:35
因為安吉就是想薛一波資產來 那剛好灰狼是被當凱
子薛……
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2022-12-05T12:53
狗貝的用法 感覺原本Vanderbilt就可以有7~8成了
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2022-12-05T21:35
對啊 既然維持陣容不就好了嗎……
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2022-12-05T12:53
把時間線拉快 就是賭球隊不能有大面積傷病、AE在三
年內成為MVP候選等級的球員
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2022-12-05T21:35
阿貝部長..
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2022-12-05T12:53
高層的想法要賭就賭最好的 最頂的苦力中鋒
賭在一個進攻能力不好 風險太高 不太符合潮流
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2022-12-05T21:35
現在糖糖確診六週 球隊戰績沒辦法保底的話就不用想
太多了
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2022-12-05T12:53
好吧 那時間能證明這代價吧
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2022-12-05T21:35
*缺陣
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2022-12-05T12:53
不然這現況 落差太大……
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2022-12-05T21:35
灰狼原本預期今年要打到2輪的
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2022-12-05T12:53
先保附加賽再說……
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2022-12-05T21:35
對阿 現在看來附加賽危險 湖人磨合完畢 有點可怕
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2022-12-05T12:53
好繼續馬後炮
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2022-12-05T21:35
我搞不懂灰狼要試雙塔的話-堆底薪,DH表弟都可以
有必要丟-堆簽嗎?
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2022-12-05T21:35
何況灰狼簽都很有價值,問勇士就知道了
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉: 他們給的太多了
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2022-12-05T21:35
可能實驗完雙塔的可行性 爵士都還沒把狗貝賣掉XD
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2022-12-05T12:53
Gobert: "沒有哪支nba球隊能阻擋我+糖糖+斑馬"
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2022-12-05T21:35
(坦)
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2022-12-05T12:53
但是灰狼明年的籤在爵士手上XD
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2022-12-05T21:35
可是灰狼沒有籤XD
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉 like
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2022-12-05T21:35
安吉去爵士真的封神
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2022-12-05T12:53
西區完全大亂鬥,很可怕,國王水鳥湖人阿拓都猛猛
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2022-12-05T21:35
傳統強權原本的爵士也沒爛,其他雖有掙扎但還不差
William avatar
By William
at 2022-12-05T12:53
有安吉啊
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2022-12-05T21:35
賺爛了
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2022-12-05T12:53
圍巾和狗貝都爽到勇士,爵士
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2022-12-05T21:35
安吉:其實也沒人跟他們搶,可我隨便喊他們就跟了
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2022-12-05T12:53
小沙哈利那筆現在看來確實也是雙贏交易
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2022-12-05T21:35
灰狼缺個大鎖側翼,最後替補也要,看向圍巾+苦命
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2022-12-05T12:53
這季都還沒打完這麼急的嗎
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2022-12-05T21:35
安吉覺得這很讚
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2022-12-05T12:53
thinking baseketball之前有一支影片說明灰狼目前
的困境,簡單說是為了配合糖糖狗貝雙中鋒場上的搭
配,造成灰狼防守戰術太多,大家適應不來,加上兩
人都是標準中鋒腦袋,在進攻上兩人都會互卡。他們
分別各自一人在場都比他們兩兩在場要好
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2022-12-05T21:35
然後狗貝也遇到在爵士一樣的問題,灰狼外圍防守太
爛,狗貝cover不及
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2022-12-05T12:53
這裡不喜歡的有誰
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2022-12-05T21:35
這幾年灰狼籤的價值逐年下滑吧 畢竟去年也進季後賽
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2022-12-05T12:53
但21年超大年的樂透籤選到Kuminga是真的賺爛
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2022-12-05T21:35
外國網友有SENSE多 知道是在競標才溢價
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By Frederica
at 2022-12-05T12:53
爵士喜歡啊
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2022-12-05T21:35
騎士也蠻喜歡的吧
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By Frederic
at 2022-12-05T12:53
狗貝賤賣去獨行俠雙贏
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By Mia
at 2022-12-05T21:35
看到標題第一個想到的也是安吉
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By Elma
at 2022-12-05T12:53
安吉用兩個明星瞬間重建XD 這樣還不開心嗎
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By Aaliyah
at 2022-12-05T21:35
Gobert過去在爵士搭最好的持球者是GH、Diaw、鷹勾
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By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-12-05T12:53
也就是持球鋒線 能搭077對他肯定是最大化進攻價值
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By Lydia
at 2022-12-05T21:35
如果獨行俠想逢低跟灰狼買進 或許能賺一手
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By Oliver
at 2022-12-05T12:53
Wood+THJ換Gobert 獨行俠貼兩首輪籤樂透保護 這樣
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By Genevieve
at 2022-12-05T21:35
灰狼想找的中鋒是能幫軟糖護框的 Wood護框挺...
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By Mason
at 2022-12-05T12:53
護框最頂的就Gobert阿,結果.......

AD鬼神數據湖人10戰8勝

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By Blanche
at 2022-12-05T10:09
連結: https://bit.ly/3B8vKeQ 內文: 湖人近10場贏8場 AD近10戰平均35.3分、15.6籃板、2.9火鍋、投籃命中率65%、三分命中率46%、罰球命中率8 8%。 Lakers have won 8 of their last 10 games. AD in that ...

湖人過去10場比賽豪奪8勝 並列聯盟最多

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By Elma
at 2022-12-05T10:08
消息來源:https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1599576034529005568 內容: Best record in last 10 games: 8-2 Celtics https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjLV7M-XkAAfa2f?fo ...

溜馬 @ 拓荒者

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By Elvira
at 2022-12-05T10:06
溜馬 at 拓荒者 Andrew Nembhard Buddy Hield Aaron Nesmith Jalen Smith Myles Turner Anfernee Simons Josh Hart Damian Lillard Jerami Grant Jusuf Nurkic https:/ ...

Trae Young 跟教練吵架 缺席比賽

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By Harry
at 2022-12-05T09:52
消息來源:Shams Charania https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1599528117466529793 內容: 老鷹隊 Trae Young 星期五的球隊投籃練習前跟總教練 Nate McMillan 吵架 因此 Trae Young 決定缺席當 ...

AD成為Kobe後首位B2B砍下40+的湖人球員

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By Kristin
at 2022-12-05T09:24
AD成為Kobe後首位B2B砍下40+的湖人球員 Anthony Davis went off for 55 and is the first Laker with back-to-back 40-point games since Kobe Bryant! 55 PTS, 17 REB, 3 BLK ( ...