Djo是網球界GOAT是不是已經沒爭議了? - 網球 Tennis

By Zora
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Table of Contents
※ 引述《birdjack (啾啾啾)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《l2345 ()》之銘言:
: : GS數追平費納並列第一
: : 大師賽史上第一(跟納豆並列)
: : 雙圈大滿貫(費納沒有)
: : 雙圈金大師(費納連單圈都沒有)
: : 球王週數史上第一
: : 對費納H2H也都領先
: : 還做到老費無法做到的在法網擊敗納豆
: : 冏口網球界GOAT的地位是不是已經毫無爭議了?
: 個人覺得現在都是20座GS、當過球王
: GOAT之爭雖然不言而喻,但還是有些可以討論的地方吧?
: 畢竟現在也還沒有選手敢武斷地說Djoko已經是GOAT無爭議
: 用的都還是one of GOAT
: 而有些數據個人是覺得要不要納入討論也有待爭議
: 例1:全大師賽
: 畢竟ATP賽事升升降降,Federer拿過漢堡大師
: 但當今網壇想拿這座也拿不到了
: 類似奧運的存在
: 如果還硬要比大師賽,那很容易變成在張飛比岳飛
: 張飛說他守過長板橋之戰,岳飛說他守過襄漢
: 沒辦法比吧~
你這樣講不對吧
全大師是很厲害的一項成就欸
就因為費拿的其中一個大師賽被降級了
就忽略他其他拿不全的事實?
而且囧不只是全大師還是雙圈大師
: 例2:奧運
: 為什麼奧運在網壇(至少ptt?)常被認為是錦上添花
: 畢竟四年才辦一次,
: 這兩年還因為疫情延辦,真的是可遇不可求
可是費也沒有奧運單打金牌
: 我會傾向於用大滿貫跟球王數據來討論就好
: Djokovic優勢:
: 雙圈大滿貫
: 跨年度全滿貫(2015-2016)
: 球王總週數327+ (Federer 310週)
: Federer優勢:
: 年終球王賽6冠 (Djokovic 5冠)
: 球王連續週數237 多過 Djokovic 122週
: 這樣看不知各位怎麼想,
怎麼想?
覺得你邏輯很有問題啊!
前面自己說比GS數跟球王週數就好
結果費的優勢突然又加了一項年終賽
然後比球王週數就比球王週數
自己又限定了一項連續球王週數XD
既然這樣我也可以說費大滿貫20個裏沒有連續拿4座過
囧可是有喔 15溫到16法 跨年連拿四大滿貫
啊問題是這樣有意義嗎XD
最終還不是要比總GS數
我是覺得費迷真的好了啦!
一直專門列一些限定而有利於費的沒有比較好看
--
: ※ 引述《l2345 ()》之銘言:
: : GS數追平費納並列第一
: : 大師賽史上第一(跟納豆並列)
: : 雙圈大滿貫(費納沒有)
: : 雙圈金大師(費納連單圈都沒有)
: : 球王週數史上第一
: : 對費納H2H也都領先
: : 還做到老費無法做到的在法網擊敗納豆
: : 冏口網球界GOAT的地位是不是已經毫無爭議了?
: 個人覺得現在都是20座GS、當過球王
: GOAT之爭雖然不言而喻,但還是有些可以討論的地方吧?
: 畢竟現在也還沒有選手敢武斷地說Djoko已經是GOAT無爭議
: 用的都還是one of GOAT
: 而有些數據個人是覺得要不要納入討論也有待爭議
: 例1:全大師賽
: 畢竟ATP賽事升升降降,Federer拿過漢堡大師
: 但當今網壇想拿這座也拿不到了
: 類似奧運的存在
: 如果還硬要比大師賽,那很容易變成在張飛比岳飛
: 張飛說他守過長板橋之戰,岳飛說他守過襄漢
: 沒辦法比吧~
你這樣講不對吧
全大師是很厲害的一項成就欸
就因為費拿的其中一個大師賽被降級了
就忽略他其他拿不全的事實?
而且囧不只是全大師還是雙圈大師
: 例2:奧運
: 為什麼奧運在網壇(至少ptt?)常被認為是錦上添花
: 畢竟四年才辦一次,
: 這兩年還因為疫情延辦,真的是可遇不可求
可是費也沒有奧運單打金牌
: 我會傾向於用大滿貫跟球王數據來討論就好
: Djokovic優勢:
: 雙圈大滿貫
: 跨年度全滿貫(2015-2016)
: 球王總週數327+ (Federer 310週)
: Federer優勢:
: 年終球王賽6冠 (Djokovic 5冠)
: 球王連續週數237 多過 Djokovic 122週
: 這樣看不知各位怎麼想,
怎麼想?
覺得你邏輯很有問題啊!
前面自己說比GS數跟球王週數就好
結果費的優勢突然又加了一項年終賽
然後比球王週數就比球王週數
自己又限定了一項連續球王週數XD
既然這樣我也可以說費大滿貫20個裏沒有連續拿4座過
囧可是有喔 15溫到16法 跨年連拿四大滿貫
啊問題是這樣有意義嗎XD
最終還不是要比總GS數
我是覺得費迷真的好了啦!
一直專門列一些限定而有利於費的沒有比較好看
--
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