這兩年勇士與04-06年太陽 - NBA
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※ 引述《stacy611026 (It's not important)》之銘言:
: 這兩年看勇士的進攻個人感覺有種04~06年 Nash領軍太陽的味道
: 全場開放式進攻 攻守轉換攻擊 還有三分攻勢都各有千秋的感覺
: 差別大概就差在勇士除了進攻之外還帶有防守
: 並且也有打陣地戰的本錢
: 以及球隊1號 勇士是自走砲 也有吸怪機的效應 讓隊友有很多空檔
: 而太陽則是有優秀的組織以及整體球隊的跑位 製造出空檔
: 無論是勇士或太陽 都創造出賞心悅目的球風
: 說太陽進攻拿不到冠軍 如果沒有當年威爾史密斯的犧牲打也許還很難說 哈哈
要跟當年的太陽相比,最大的差距還是禁區跟防守,比進攻,我覺得當年的太陽還比
今年的勇士稍微流暢一些,今年勇士吃Curry光環吃很大。
第一個差距,在勇士對在中鋒這個位置擺的是「真正的中鋒」,而當年的太陽在中鋒
位置上擺的是Stoudemire,他是因為速度以及攻擊能力被拉去打中鋒,而Bogut是因為
他可以做到真正中鋒的防守,才去打中鋒。
儘管Amare Stoudemire的進攻能力Bogut完全無法相提並論,但Bogut可以提供真正的
防守,以及不錯的中鋒策應,當年的Amare就是進攻機器,所以在進攻上Bogut的差距
有限,Bogut不太參與快攻,但快攻其實也不需要這麼多人參與,勇士的快攻經常是
三人小組,第一時間找不到機會再回傳給拖車進來的Bogut重新組織一次,這一點跟
以前太陽只能找Nash重新組織是不同的。
防守上,當年太陽採用大量的協防去掩護禁區以及Nash的問題,而勇士因為有真正的
中鋒,你常會發現當Curry被過之後,不急著回去包夾反倒準備開始偷跑。
第二個差距,是勇士強大的外圍防守,Curry跟Thompson都是超級被低估的防守者,
他們的外圍防守非常好,而且對手運球的時候也會不斷干擾,而且他們也非常善於
預判對手傳球,當年的Nash防守上比較好的地方是製造進攻犯規,其實是非常糟糕的
一對一防守者,而勇士對有一大票介於6'6"到6'9"之間的後衛以及鋒線,同樣是小
球,但勇士可以擺出來6'3", 6'7", 6'7", 6'7", 6'9",甚至全部都是6'6"以上的
陣容(把Livingston換掉Curry),而且防守都不賴,但當年太陽無法有這種配置。
第三個差距,就是Draymond Green,Marion可以從1號守到4號,但是他不能防守真正
的五號球員,與到Duncan,Bynum都只有被打爆的份,Amare的防守連Odom都可蹂躪他
,而Green能從1號守到5號,下盤非常穩,另外一點就是現在聯盟當中禁區球員極度缺
乏真正的五號球員,反倒是勇士自己有一隻真正的五號,這一點也讓勇士比太陽有更
多的優勢。
當年的太陽極度依賴Nash的供輸,幾乎所有進攻都需要Nash來發起,Nash在太陽時期
跟Curry的勇士時期相比,除了13-14球季,Nash的三分球被助攻率都低於Curry的被助
攻率,Curry的底角三分也遠多於Nash的,因為在勇士的體系裡面Curry可以成為戰術
的終點,而Nash大多是戰術的起點,這一切都是因為Green從上個球季開始他的持球
能力被發展出來,讓勇士的戰術起了天翻地覆的變化,Curry的三分球被助攻率從13
-14球季的.456暴增到現在的.57+,但當年的太陽即使有Diaw,但也不可能像是現在
的勇士這樣進攻上就把球交給Green處理,然後Nash就跑位空手切,儘管Diaw是一名
很好的傳球者,但比運球跟活動力他跟Green差太遠了。
更何況,勇士除了Green, Curry, 包括Iguodala, Bogut, Klay Thompson在內也都
是不錯的組織者跟傳球者,要說起來,勇士更接近這幾年的馬刺,而不是當年的太陽
。
至於這三者哪點最重要,我認為是第三點。
如果當年太陽隊有Green這樣的球員,也許會離冠軍更進一步。
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: 這兩年看勇士的進攻個人感覺有種04~06年 Nash領軍太陽的味道
: 全場開放式進攻 攻守轉換攻擊 還有三分攻勢都各有千秋的感覺
: 差別大概就差在勇士除了進攻之外還帶有防守
: 並且也有打陣地戰的本錢
: 以及球隊1號 勇士是自走砲 也有吸怪機的效應 讓隊友有很多空檔
: 而太陽則是有優秀的組織以及整體球隊的跑位 製造出空檔
: 無論是勇士或太陽 都創造出賞心悅目的球風
: 說太陽進攻拿不到冠軍 如果沒有當年威爾史密斯的犧牲打也許還很難說 哈哈
要跟當年的太陽相比,最大的差距還是禁區跟防守,比進攻,我覺得當年的太陽還比
今年的勇士稍微流暢一些,今年勇士吃Curry光環吃很大。
第一個差距,在勇士對在中鋒這個位置擺的是「真正的中鋒」,而當年的太陽在中鋒
位置上擺的是Stoudemire,他是因為速度以及攻擊能力被拉去打中鋒,而Bogut是因為
他可以做到真正中鋒的防守,才去打中鋒。
儘管Amare Stoudemire的進攻能力Bogut完全無法相提並論,但Bogut可以提供真正的
防守,以及不錯的中鋒策應,當年的Amare就是進攻機器,所以在進攻上Bogut的差距
有限,Bogut不太參與快攻,但快攻其實也不需要這麼多人參與,勇士的快攻經常是
三人小組,第一時間找不到機會再回傳給拖車進來的Bogut重新組織一次,這一點跟
以前太陽只能找Nash重新組織是不同的。
防守上,當年太陽採用大量的協防去掩護禁區以及Nash的問題,而勇士因為有真正的
中鋒,你常會發現當Curry被過之後,不急著回去包夾反倒準備開始偷跑。
第二個差距,是勇士強大的外圍防守,Curry跟Thompson都是超級被低估的防守者,
他們的外圍防守非常好,而且對手運球的時候也會不斷干擾,而且他們也非常善於
預判對手傳球,當年的Nash防守上比較好的地方是製造進攻犯規,其實是非常糟糕的
一對一防守者,而勇士對有一大票介於6'6"到6'9"之間的後衛以及鋒線,同樣是小
球,但勇士可以擺出來6'3", 6'7", 6'7", 6'7", 6'9",甚至全部都是6'6"以上的
陣容(把Livingston換掉Curry),而且防守都不賴,但當年太陽無法有這種配置。
第三個差距,就是Draymond Green,Marion可以從1號守到4號,但是他不能防守真正
的五號球員,與到Duncan,Bynum都只有被打爆的份,Amare的防守連Odom都可蹂躪他
,而Green能從1號守到5號,下盤非常穩,另外一點就是現在聯盟當中禁區球員極度缺
乏真正的五號球員,反倒是勇士自己有一隻真正的五號,這一點也讓勇士比太陽有更
多的優勢。
當年的太陽極度依賴Nash的供輸,幾乎所有進攻都需要Nash來發起,Nash在太陽時期
跟Curry的勇士時期相比,除了13-14球季,Nash的三分球被助攻率都低於Curry的被助
攻率,Curry的底角三分也遠多於Nash的,因為在勇士的體系裡面Curry可以成為戰術
的終點,而Nash大多是戰術的起點,這一切都是因為Green從上個球季開始他的持球
能力被發展出來,讓勇士的戰術起了天翻地覆的變化,Curry的三分球被助攻率從13
-14球季的.456暴增到現在的.57+,但當年的太陽即使有Diaw,但也不可能像是現在
的勇士這樣進攻上就把球交給Green處理,然後Nash就跑位空手切,儘管Diaw是一名
很好的傳球者,但比運球跟活動力他跟Green差太遠了。
更何況,勇士除了Green, Curry, 包括Iguodala, Bogut, Klay Thompson在內也都
是不錯的組織者跟傳球者,要說起來,勇士更接近這幾年的馬刺,而不是當年的太陽
。
至於這三者哪點最重要,我認為是第三點。
如果當年太陽隊有Green這樣的球員,也許會離冠軍更進一步。
--
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德瑞克徐的少年籃球夢粉絲團
http://www.sportsv.net/authors/derekhsu
運動視界作者網頁
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