請問太極拳的拳架 - 武術 Martial Arts
By Isabella
at 2011-07-19T12:07
at 2011-07-19T12:07
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: → iamice :孫式太極是孫祿堂大師融合太極與形意 58.114.209.63 07/18 15:54
: → iamice :的傑作,步法是從形意拳來的,摟膝抝 58.114.209.63 07/18 15:56
: → iamice :步的步法直接將弓步改掉,後腳回收至 58.114.209.63 07/18 15:57
: → iamice :前腳跟後。我個人是認為這比鄭太的弓 58.114.209.63 07/18 15:58
: → iamice :步更有意義。 58.114.209.63 07/18 15:58
: 我目前為止還只是在保守前文開頭的那個主張:「鄭子太極的弓步除了架子
: 小以外,訴求和一般楊氏太極拳的弓步沒有不同」,亦即鄭子太極的弓步在前實
: 後虛這點上和一般楊氏太極拳的弓步不同是不對的。
:
: 至於是否鄭子太極的弓步架子站高了就沒意義、或者所有楊氏太極拳中站前
: 七後三的弓步都是其缺陷,我想我並沒有足夠的憑據去論述。所以我不會反對你
: 說孫式太極的打法可能更有意義這件事。
: ※ 編輯: hermitwhite 來自: 112.105.152.56 (07/18 17:53)
: → iamice :問題就在因為架子小,楊太的要求根本 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:14
: → iamice :就達不到。 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:15
: → iamice :不管鄭太有什麼理由要將架子縮小, 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:17
: → iamice :在鄭太上論鄭太都會有其意義。你的主 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:17
: → iamice :張問題就出在拿來與楊太相比。鄭太將 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:18
: → iamice :架子站高並縮小,這根本就達不到楊太 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:19
: → iamice :的要求,既然達不到,就不可能會一樣 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:20
: 暫且不問你指的楊太的要求具體為何,總之你現在主張的並非鄭子太極拳因
: 後腳全虛而和楊氏太極拳不同,而是鄭子太極拳架子比較小,所以除了架子小以
: 外,關於弓步的其他要求也不可能和一般的楊式太極拳相同,是否如此?
: ※ 編輯: hermitwhite 來自: 112.105.152.56 (07/18 19:09)
: → iamice :是因為架子小而使得其他要求無法與楊 58.114.209.63 07/18 19:47
: → iamice :太相同。 58.114.209.63 07/18 19:48
那麼這是哪些要求呢?
對你說鄭太創拳將技擊要求刪去這事我其實沒什麼立場(例如protoss指這
種拳不能打、甚至創始者多弱,我都沒有立場)。只是提到「鄭子太極拳動作是
如何如何」,那當然要問的是符合「鄭子太極拳」此一指稱的拳,例如下面這位
打出來的這種:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckw8Q9jvqeM
如鄭子太極弓步如何站的問題,可以引用如下文章:
《鄭子太極自修新法》p.40(攬雀尾左掤)「...左右兩胯須求平正,左前膝蓋
骨不可越過足尖,須與足尖成垂直;右腿膝稍屈,尾閭稍收,方得中正,可使神
能貫頂。前腳七分實,如直向下栽植;後腳三分活力,向前推進。」
文字敘述較抽象,請參考前面的影片。這就是鄭子太極拳的弓步。它是不是
很有用的弓步我不知道,但這就是鄭子太極拳的弓步。
--
Il Cavaliere Inesistente
http://dejavu.blogdns.org/
騎士是種一旦失去存在的意義,就會崩解消失的東西
因此他們的一生總在追求著某些事物,以維持自己的存在
如果有了存在的理由,即使是一副空的鎧甲,也可以成為騎士
--
: → iamice :的傑作,步法是從形意拳來的,摟膝抝 58.114.209.63 07/18 15:56
: → iamice :步的步法直接將弓步改掉,後腳回收至 58.114.209.63 07/18 15:57
: → iamice :前腳跟後。我個人是認為這比鄭太的弓 58.114.209.63 07/18 15:58
: → iamice :步更有意義。 58.114.209.63 07/18 15:58
: 我目前為止還只是在保守前文開頭的那個主張:「鄭子太極的弓步除了架子
: 小以外,訴求和一般楊氏太極拳的弓步沒有不同」,亦即鄭子太極的弓步在前實
: 後虛這點上和一般楊氏太極拳的弓步不同是不對的。
:
: 至於是否鄭子太極的弓步架子站高了就沒意義、或者所有楊氏太極拳中站前
: 七後三的弓步都是其缺陷,我想我並沒有足夠的憑據去論述。所以我不會反對你
: 說孫式太極的打法可能更有意義這件事。
: ※ 編輯: hermitwhite 來自: 112.105.152.56 (07/18 17:53)
: → iamice :問題就在因為架子小,楊太的要求根本 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:14
: → iamice :就達不到。 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:15
: → iamice :不管鄭太有什麼理由要將架子縮小, 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:17
: → iamice :在鄭太上論鄭太都會有其意義。你的主 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:17
: → iamice :張問題就出在拿來與楊太相比。鄭太將 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:18
: → iamice :架子站高並縮小,這根本就達不到楊太 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:19
: → iamice :的要求,既然達不到,就不可能會一樣 58.114.209.63 07/18 18:20
: 暫且不問你指的楊太的要求具體為何,總之你現在主張的並非鄭子太極拳因
: 後腳全虛而和楊氏太極拳不同,而是鄭子太極拳架子比較小,所以除了架子小以
: 外,關於弓步的其他要求也不可能和一般的楊式太極拳相同,是否如此?
: ※ 編輯: hermitwhite 來自: 112.105.152.56 (07/18 19:09)
: → iamice :是因為架子小而使得其他要求無法與楊 58.114.209.63 07/18 19:47
: → iamice :太相同。 58.114.209.63 07/18 19:48
那麼這是哪些要求呢?
對你說鄭太創拳將技擊要求刪去這事我其實沒什麼立場(例如protoss指這
種拳不能打、甚至創始者多弱,我都沒有立場)。只是提到「鄭子太極拳動作是
如何如何」,那當然要問的是符合「鄭子太極拳」此一指稱的拳,例如下面這位
打出來的這種:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckw8Q9jvqeM
如鄭子太極弓步如何站的問題,可以引用如下文章:
《鄭子太極自修新法》p.40(攬雀尾左掤)「...左右兩胯須求平正,左前膝蓋
骨不可越過足尖,須與足尖成垂直;右腿膝稍屈,尾閭稍收,方得中正,可使神
能貫頂。前腳七分實,如直向下栽植;後腳三分活力,向前推進。」
文字敘述較抽象,請參考前面的影片。這就是鄭子太極拳的弓步。它是不是
很有用的弓步我不知道,但這就是鄭子太極拳的弓步。
--
Il Cavaliere Inesistente
http://dejavu.blogdns.org/
騎士是種一旦失去存在的意義,就會崩解消失的東西
因此他們的一生總在追求著某些事物,以維持自己的存在
如果有了存在的理由,即使是一副空的鎧甲,也可以成為騎士
--
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