真要換KI 你覺得出多少籌碼值得? - 洛杉磯湖人 Los Angeles Lakers
By Quintina
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※ 引述《joulin (joulin)》之銘言:
: 看到這新聞,我是覺得喜憂參半,
: 擔心湖人花太多資產去換KI,這樣又要重蹈覆測,Bigname迷思
: 就像當初迎來西河,也以為會比德軟好
: 但這種事情,哪有一定,風險很大的
: LBJ來到湖人之後,湖人做了兩筆超大交易,
: 一個是梭哈換AD,一個是換西河,
: 一次成功,一次失敗,
: 組兩巨頭加上優質側翼,我覺得成功機率高一點,就像AD那次,
: 組三巨頭歷史上,成功的機率並沒有很高,尤其近期的幾年
: 像是籃網,湖人,都很慘,
: 當然要組三巨頭不是不可以,但要確定合得來,
: 還有,場外不能有問題,像籃網就是被場外問題,像個人因素跟傷病,
: 搞得一直失敗
: 要換來KI,當然是比西河更合的了LBJ,畢竟有合作過,
: 但有人會問,換來KI,誰要帶二陣?又要燒LBJ?
: 當然不是,KI是PG,雖然攻擊比組織強,但他跟德軟勉強都可以輪流帶二陣
: KI的到來,能讓先發更強,目前的湖人,是板凳排名前茅,但先發打得很差
: 當然這數據跟AD躺太久也有關,
: 不過KI的到來,確實會大大強化先發實力,
: 所以對於KI的到來,我認為對湖人的戰力絕對是有向上的加分的
: 只是,能加上多少?能爭冠嗎? 都還有爭議
: 因此,值得換嗎? 這就要取決於你用多少籌碼
: 大家覺得願意花多少籌碼呢?
: 換來KI只有半年使用權,對下家球隊來說,必須得到留隊承諾,可以用鳥權,才值得投資
: 既然KI要喊吹密,就是想找一隊願意給他大約的,若球隊願意給他大約,
: 那當然就不只有半年的使用權,
: 只是,湖人願意花均薪五千萬簽他嗎?有長期付稅的打算嗎?
: 若有,那才有換的意義,不然半年真的太短,何況今年我們換來還沒磨合也不一定能奪冠
: (可是珍妮過往看似沒這麼願意花大錢...)
: 假設前提是願意長期留下KI,那花多少換值得呢?
: 很多人說只願意丟一首輪,但我覺得這應該根本不用談,
: 能出一首輪的很多,籃網不會只想拿到一首輪就放走KI,
: (當然籃網也沒那麼多主動權,有人提到暑假簽換,但簽換要KI跟下家球隊願意幫忙,
: 籃網確實有KI變成空氣的風險,所以交易截止之前能有好的交易,他們不會拒絕)
: 湖人想得到KI,出兩首輪是基本的,不然真的不用想,
: 我自己認為的底線是,出兩首輪+西河,是最多了,
: 若還要搭上AR或Max等等優質潛力,就不要,
: (當然我們若還有出球員,可能對方會丟薪資包,但我是希望不要再多出球員
: 不過,兩首輪加上西河,也不一定換得到就是了,
: 因此這消息,我還是先當作看戲就好,不要認真 免得失望過大
要換頂多就龜龜KI二個互換,在多都不值得
KI搞事的能力在籃網塞提還看不夠嗎....
看看鬍子為了要逃離KI所得到的慘痛教訓還不夠嗎
如果真的花了二個首輪把KI換來,那就勢必要續KI長約,否則那二首輪等於白白送人
那麼用二首輪將KI續約未來有可能是以下情形
1.KI搞事不出賽,合約可能長達四年
2.AD受傷出賽不穩定
3.老詹39歲真的老了,扛起球隊逐漸力不從心
4.球隊失去主將,球隊薪資又被頂薪綁死無法補強,只能簽一堆底薪仔
想想看以上情形如果發生,當季又沒有首輪的情況,湖人會有多慘
但反過來想,如果不簽KI,AD受傷出場不穩,老詹39歲老了,等因素球隊戰績不佳
但湖人還有首輪可以坦還是有希望的。
在退一步來說,現在湖人戰績又不是說能爭到冠軍,連打季後賽都很吃力
真的有必要簽個對球隊不確定性高傷害又高的球員嗎....
現在KI在籃網搞事,湖人這邊可以當個吃瓜群眾看戲
哪天這筆交易成了,換KI在我們這邊搞事,我們就是被人當作笑呵呵的對象了...
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https://imgur.com/dXCxFG8
https://imgur.com/ZT6YFjY
https://imgur.com/YjbmTKo
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: 看到這新聞,我是覺得喜憂參半,
: 擔心湖人花太多資產去換KI,這樣又要重蹈覆測,Bigname迷思
: 就像當初迎來西河,也以為會比德軟好
: 但這種事情,哪有一定,風險很大的
: LBJ來到湖人之後,湖人做了兩筆超大交易,
: 一個是梭哈換AD,一個是換西河,
: 一次成功,一次失敗,
: 組兩巨頭加上優質側翼,我覺得成功機率高一點,就像AD那次,
: 組三巨頭歷史上,成功的機率並沒有很高,尤其近期的幾年
: 像是籃網,湖人,都很慘,
: 當然要組三巨頭不是不可以,但要確定合得來,
: 還有,場外不能有問題,像籃網就是被場外問題,像個人因素跟傷病,
: 搞得一直失敗
: 要換來KI,當然是比西河更合的了LBJ,畢竟有合作過,
: 但有人會問,換來KI,誰要帶二陣?又要燒LBJ?
: 當然不是,KI是PG,雖然攻擊比組織強,但他跟德軟勉強都可以輪流帶二陣
: KI的到來,能讓先發更強,目前的湖人,是板凳排名前茅,但先發打得很差
: 當然這數據跟AD躺太久也有關,
: 不過KI的到來,確實會大大強化先發實力,
: 所以對於KI的到來,我認為對湖人的戰力絕對是有向上的加分的
: 只是,能加上多少?能爭冠嗎? 都還有爭議
: 因此,值得換嗎? 這就要取決於你用多少籌碼
: 大家覺得願意花多少籌碼呢?
: 換來KI只有半年使用權,對下家球隊來說,必須得到留隊承諾,可以用鳥權,才值得投資
: 既然KI要喊吹密,就是想找一隊願意給他大約的,若球隊願意給他大約,
: 那當然就不只有半年的使用權,
: 只是,湖人願意花均薪五千萬簽他嗎?有長期付稅的打算嗎?
: 若有,那才有換的意義,不然半年真的太短,何況今年我們換來還沒磨合也不一定能奪冠
: (可是珍妮過往看似沒這麼願意花大錢...)
: 假設前提是願意長期留下KI,那花多少換值得呢?
: 很多人說只願意丟一首輪,但我覺得這應該根本不用談,
: 能出一首輪的很多,籃網不會只想拿到一首輪就放走KI,
: (當然籃網也沒那麼多主動權,有人提到暑假簽換,但簽換要KI跟下家球隊願意幫忙,
: 籃網確實有KI變成空氣的風險,所以交易截止之前能有好的交易,他們不會拒絕)
: 湖人想得到KI,出兩首輪是基本的,不然真的不用想,
: 我自己認為的底線是,出兩首輪+西河,是最多了,
: 若還要搭上AR或Max等等優質潛力,就不要,
: (當然我們若還有出球員,可能對方會丟薪資包,但我是希望不要再多出球員
: 不過,兩首輪加上西河,也不一定換得到就是了,
: 因此這消息,我還是先當作看戲就好,不要認真 免得失望過大
要換頂多就龜龜KI二個互換,在多都不值得
KI搞事的能力在籃網塞提還看不夠嗎....
看看鬍子為了要逃離KI所得到的慘痛教訓還不夠嗎
如果真的花了二個首輪把KI換來,那就勢必要續KI長約,否則那二首輪等於白白送人
那麼用二首輪將KI續約未來有可能是以下情形
1.KI搞事不出賽,合約可能長達四年
2.AD受傷出賽不穩定
3.老詹39歲真的老了,扛起球隊逐漸力不從心
4.球隊失去主將,球隊薪資又被頂薪綁死無法補強,只能簽一堆底薪仔
想想看以上情形如果發生,當季又沒有首輪的情況,湖人會有多慘
但反過來想,如果不簽KI,AD受傷出場不穩,老詹39歲老了,等因素球隊戰績不佳
但湖人還有首輪可以坦還是有希望的。
在退一步來說,現在湖人戰績又不是說能爭到冠軍,連打季後賽都很吃力
真的有必要簽個對球隊不確定性高傷害又高的球員嗎....
現在KI在籃網搞事,湖人這邊可以當個吃瓜群眾看戲
哪天這筆交易成了,換KI在我們這邊搞事,我們就是被人當作笑呵呵的對象了...
--
https://imgur.com/dXCxFG8
https://imgur.com/ZT6YFjY
https://imgur.com/YjbmTKo
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