湖人應該要退休Kobe的8號還是24號球衣? - NBA

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By Jacky
at 2016-04-13T14:21

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時間:Apr 12, 2016, 10:28am
作者:Yaron Weitzman & Brittany Cheng


Should the Lakers retire Kobe Bryant as number 8 or number 24?

Kobe Bryant starred for a decade wearing a No. 8 jersey, then switched to No.
24 and kept it up. The Lakers have to pick one of these uniforms to retire,
but which should it be?
Kobe的生涯前10年穿著8號球衣成長為一位巨星,接著換成了24號球衣。如果湖人要選一個
號碼退休,那應該要選8還是24呢?


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Which @kobebryant uniform should the @lakers retire? It's a really tough
decision!
要退休Kobe的哪件球衣真是個艱難的決定!

With Kobe Bryant's career at its conclusion, it's time to dive headfirst into
the glorious world of basketball nerdom. Most of the impending eulogies are
likely to focus on questions like where Kobe ranks all time and whether he's
the greatest player to ever wear a Lakers uniform. But there's another piece
of business that will need deciding as well: which jersey number should hang
in the rafters?
當Kobe的生涯即將告終,是時候將Kobe這個籃球怪咖生涯的一些榮譽攤開來細數。大多數
的討論都是關於Kobe生涯是前幾佳的球員,或是他是不是湖人史上最好的球員。不過關於
Kobe的哪件球衣要被高掛,則是另一個需要被決定的問題。

Kobe wore No. 8 through the 2006 season, then switched to No. 24 as a homage
to his 24/7 work ethic. General manager Mitch Kupchack has already hinted
that team might cop out and retire both numbers, and it's understandable why.
This isn't like Michael Jordan donning the number 45 for a half-season.
Bryant has worn each number for 10 years, making multiple All-Star teams and
winning championships in both uniforms. The 10-year tenures are remarkably
similar.
在2006年之前Kobe都是穿著8號球衣,之後就換成24號,為了向自己每天24小時一週7天都
對籃球抱持著熱情的努力致敬。湖人GM Mitch Kupchack之前曾經暗示過湖人將可能同時退
休Kobe的兩件球衣,這是可以理解的。不像Jordan只穿著45號球衣半個球季,Kobe的這兩
個號碼都各穿著長達10年,進過數次全明星隊伍,也都有贏過總冠軍的記錄。這兩個號碼
所達成到的榮譽是非常相似的。

But unlike the Lakers, we don't believe in cop outs. Here are the résumés
for each numbers, the cases for and against each and a final decision.
但是不像湖人,我們不太相信真的會兩個號碼都會退休,所以我們整理了一些這兩個號碼
的經歷來參考哪個號碼更有可能被退休。

No. 8 ('96-'06)
8號球衣(1996-2006)

The numbers
個人數據統計

23.9 points per game
45-percent fiel goal shooting
5.1 rebounds per game
4.5 assists per game
1.5 steals per game
2.9 turnovers per game
34 percent three-point shooting
22.2 average PER

The accolades
榮譽統計

3 NBA Titles
4 Western Conference titles
9 playoff appearances
8 All-Star selections
4 time All-NBA first team
2 time All-NBA second team
2 time All-NBA third team
6 All-Defense selections
1 scoring title
1 All-Star Game MVP award
1 time Slam Dunk champion


The case for No. 8
8號球衣正面評價

This decade of basketball contains a complete narrative arc on its own: the
Slam Dunk title that propelled Bryant into the public's conscious, the
dynasty year with Shaquille O'Neal and Phil Jackson, the otherworldly
individual seasons where he carried teams featuring renown talents like Smush
Parker and Slava Medvedenko to the playoffs.
8號球衣的這十年有一個完整故事架構:灌籃大賽的冠軍頭銜讓Kobe的名字開始讓世人知曉
,接著是和O'Neal以及禪師共同建立的湖人三連霸王朝,接著王朝解體,Kobe靠一己之力
獨自帶隊,帶著如Smush Parker和Slava Medvenko之流的球員進入季後賽。

No. 8 won three championships, and it's these teams that are most glorified
and remembered. It wasn't just the wins. It was the 15-1 run through the
playoffs in 2001 and the epic battles and victories over stacked squads like
the Spurs, Blazers and Kings.
8號球衣贏得了三個總冠軍,而且這個時期的湖人隊是最讓人稱道的強。不只是贏球而已,
還在2001年創下季後賽15勝1敗的驚人記錄,以及和一些強隊如馬刺、拓荒者和國王等隊激
烈競爭後最後勝出。

The No. 8-Shaq-Phil teams were the type of champions that get books written
and movies made. Kobe wasn't the sole responsible party, but he had a major
hand.
8號與O'Neal及禪師組成的隊伍是那種已經被寫入書中和製作成電影傳頌的程度。這個傳奇
隊伍雖然不是Kobe一人創造的,但他也是主要分子之一。

The case for No. 8 is most compelling because of the ridiculous individual
numbers Kobe put up after O'Neal was dealt to the Heat. He averaged 35.4
points per game in 2006 and dropped 81 one night against the Raptors. No. 8
only missed the playoffs once and only missed 81 games in 10 years. Kobe No.
8 was also a much better and more active defender than No. 24.
8號球衣最受到注目的是,當O'Neal被交易至熱火之後,Kobe在2006球季以每場平均35.4分
以及對暴龍單場81分的誇張數據讓人驚嘆不已。8號球衣十年了只有一次沒打進過季後賽,
也只缺席共81場比賽。而Kobe穿著8號球衣時他也是比24號球衣時更好的防守者。

Kobe No. 8 finished his career with Hall of Fame individual numbers to go
along with all that team success. Add in the glorious fro and you have an
even more compelling case.
Kobe的8號球衣已經完成了進名人堂應該有的一些個人數據和團體榮譽,外加一些誇張的記
錄。

The case against No. 8
8號球衣負面評價

For all the good in No. 8's career, there was also plenty of bad, on and off
the court. The battles with Shaq short-circuited the Lakers' dynasty. The
last game of the No. 8 era ended with Kobe pouting in the Game 7 against the
Suns in 2006 while taking just three shot attempts in the second half.
即使8號球衣有這麼多榮譽,它同時也有一堆不好的地方,不管是在場上還是場外。包括與
O'Neal的鬥爭使得王朝解體。8號球衣最終結束在2006季後賽與太陽隊的第7場並落敗,那
場比賽Kobe在下半場只出手了3次。


No. 24 ('06-'16)
24號球衣(2006-2016)

The numbers
個人數據統計

26.2 points per game
44-percent field goal shooting
5.3 rebounds per game
5.0 assists per game
1.3 steals per game
3.1 turnovers per game
32 percent three-point shooting
20.8 PER

The accolades
榮譽統計

2 NBA titles
3 Western Conference titles
10 All-Star game appearances
1 MVP Award
2 finals MVP awards
7 All-NBA first team
6 All-Defense selections
1 scoring title
3 All-Star Game MVP awards

The case for No. 24
24號球衣正面評價

No. 24 captured two titles, and there was no question who The Man was on
those teams. Bryant's athleticism might have started to slip after switching
to No. 24 before the 2006-07 season, but his game remained as effective as
ever. Some would say No. 24 was even more fun to watch. The impeccable
footwork, jab steps, Olajuwon-esque post moves and textbook mid-range jumpers
were basketball porn to those who find the action below the rim more
entertaining.
24號球衣總共贏得兩次總冠軍,同時這時Kobe也是球隊無庸置疑的老大。Kobe的體能狀態
在換成24號後就開始下滑了,不過他的比賽依然很有效率甚至更甚以往。有些人認為24號
時期的Kobe打球觀賞性更高。無可挑剔的腳步,刺探步,Olajuwom式的低位技巧,還有教
科書般的中距離跳投,這些遠比禁區技巧更具娛樂的技能。

No. 24 was named First Team All-NBA an incredible seven times. He was also
just a few bounces away from matching No. 8's three-peat.
24號被選為NBA第一隊高達7次之多。而和8號時期的三連霸相比也只差一步之遙。

All in all, Bryant was just more a fun basketball player and person to watch
when wearing No. 24, at least until the injuries hit towards the end of his
career.
總而言之,Kobe在穿24號球衣時是個更有趣的球員,可看性也更高,除了在他生涯末期受
傷後才再也回不去了。

The case against No. 24
24號球衣負面評價

No. 24 didn't get off to a great start. After the Lakers were knocked out in
the first round of the playoffs in 2007, Kobe went on Stephen A. Smith's
radio show and said he wanted to be traded. The Lakers were open to the
possibility, too. If not for the serendipitous Pau Gasol trade, who knows how
Kobe's late career would have played out?
24號並沒有延續8號的偉大。在湖人2007年季後賽一輪遊之後,Kobe跑到Stephen A.Smith
的節目說他想要被交易。湖人也沒有排斥這個選項。如果不是Pau Gasol命運般的交易,誰
知道Kobe之後的生涯還會這麼亮眼嗎?

But the primary case against No. 24 is everything that's gone on in Lakerland
over the past three years. Kobe has looked like a shell of himself since a
torn Achilles to end the 2012-13 season. Before that, he clashed with Dwight
Howard and may have sabotaged numerous other Lakers free agent pursuits,
according to reports.
不過對於24號最主要的批評還是來自於湖人在最近三個球季來的一敗塗地。自從Kobe的阿
基里斯腱在2012-13球季受傷之後,他看起來就像個只是空有Kobe外表的空殼了。而在這之
前,Kobe和Dwight Howard發生了衝突,且破壞了許多湖人追求自由球員的計畫。

When he managed to make it on the court, Kobe has statistically been one of
the worst players in the league over the past three seasons. That, plus his
and insistence on being the No. 1 option despite his eroding skills, has
dragged the Lakers into the gutter and transformed them into the West's
version of the Knicks.
而當Kobe設法讓自己可以繼續留在賽場上時,統計數據也顯示Kobe是過去三年來聯盟中最
差勁的球員之一。再加上不管Kobe退化的如何嚴重,他始終是湖人隊場上進攻的第一選擇
,使得湖人從傳統強權墮落成西區尼克般年年衝擊樂透區。


Ruling
裁決

This is a tough one and could go either way, but the Lakers should retire
Bryant's No. 8. That's the number that was on his uniform when he turned into
Kobe, the player known by the world for his unique style, flare and
personality. The years as No, 24 were great, but No. 8 is the uniform that
set the foundation and started Bryant on the journey of becoming a
transcendent star.
這是一個困難的抉擇,不過我們認為湖人應該退休Kobe的8號球衣。8號是Kobe之所以成為
Kobe的關鍵時期,也是他獨特風格知名於整個世界的時期。24號時期也是很棒沒錯,但是
8號球衣是Kobe成為一個超級球星最重要的時期。

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明天就是Kobe NBA生涯最後一場比賽了,本科酸想到也覺得感傷,

雖然平常酸酸Kobe,不過不能否認Kobe是一代超級巨星,

沒辦法做什麼,就翻譯一篇討論Kobe 8號&24號哪個比較該被退休的文章,

只能二選一的話,我個人也是支持退8號啦,

畢竟24號最後三年可以說是他生涯最大污點也不為過。

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All Comments

Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2016-04-13T19:26
退休三件8號不就好了
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2016-04-14T00:22
都是綠葉號碼 何必?
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2016-04-15T06:10
全都要!
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2016-04-18T10:09
8號雜魚感很重
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2016-04-20T08:47
一起退休不會膩
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2016-04-20T10:32
不然湖人退24號,金塊退8號
David avatar
By David
at 2016-04-24T12:17
分兩次退,炒兩次話題,加上銅像三次,選我正解
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2016-04-27T23:59
退休球衣就寫8+8+8
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2016-04-29T07:04
退 都退 都一起退
George avatar
By George
at 2016-05-03T08:02
湖人應該會兩個都退休
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2016-05-04T22:20
24號好了 如果一次退兩件,說不定有的老球員會不開
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2016-05-06T20:57
24=23+1 當然退24號
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2016-05-08T12:53
都退吧 不退也沒新人敢穿
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2016-05-09T03:35
一哥二冠是:24號,副手三冠81分:8號
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2016-05-11T16:43
史上最強運綠葉 8 史上最過捧腦太 24
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2016-05-12T11:25
24吧,之前是抱腿時期
James avatar
By James
at 2016-05-13T15:40
退休32號
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2016-05-15T01:18
退休81號
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2016-05-16T02:15
退32號不會嗎
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2016-05-20T11:50
24+8 退32號 省事多了
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2016-05-20T13:28
都退啊 把8號先縫在Shaq的球褲上 再掛上去
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2016-05-24T19:41
8
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2016-05-27T09:01
一件掛L.A. 一件掛丹佛 ,不就好了!?
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2016-05-30T03:20
都會退休
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2016-05-31T21:42
退824號啊!
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2016-06-04T11:04
高掛手銬
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2016-06-05T02:33
24 本來就該退最後穿的
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2016-06-05T12:59
8號好惹
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2016-06-07T20:58
生涯最大污點明明就是在8號時期
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2016-06-08T00:06
應該都會退吧~
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2016-06-08T15:34
退81號阿
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2016-06-13T01:27
24阿
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2016-06-14T20:30
唯一支持KB8
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2016-06-17T04:49
我覺得都會退休 只退一件的話 我猜是8
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2016-06-17T13:37
縫在Shaq的球褲上..XD 那24號不就是Gasol的球褲
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2016-06-19T23:06
推文沒有81的話
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2016-06-21T09:14
8號有上過法院而且是歐肥小弟 退24號吧頂多mvp小倫
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2016-06-26T02:03
結論 8號縫在大歐的球褲 24號縫在賈索球衣 在掛上
最後再用手銬把這兩件球衣靠起來
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2016-06-28T04:32
說真的只退一件 另一件也沒人敢穿
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2016-06-30T21:49
5 81 24 105
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2016-07-01T00:11
8號
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2016-07-05T00:08
退休橘色還是退休紫金 囚犯兩難
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2016-07-09T05:46
應該是兩件都退
John avatar
By John
at 2016-07-11T16:16
推happypg 只退一件也沒人敢穿另一件 Kobe在湖人隊
史地位排的到前三的人 大概沒人這麼有膽去穿XD
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2016-07-15T18:51
一定都退的啊 不退的話也沒人敢穿
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2016-07-19T13:22
扒衣精神
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2016-07-23T01:53
好感傷阿...酸了他這麼久 其實心中真的知道他的強
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2016-07-24T17:39
8號的Kobe讓我恨得牙癢癢(國王與活塞迷,但那是起
點,可是24號才是巔峰吧
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2016-07-28T10:39
24
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2016-07-30T20:35
退休824不就好了
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2016-08-03T14:45
Ko8e24
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2016-08-07T02:10
小飛俠、黑曼巴 都幾?
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2016-08-08T14:47
24
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2016-08-11T19:03
退休8號跟8*3就好啦
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2016-08-15T15:40
不管退哪一件 別人在湖人都不敢選那兩號啦
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2016-08-19T23:43
一起退就好啦,只能二選一我選24,是24號的那兩冠成
就了Kobe的傳奇地位
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2016-08-22T21:41
跟老大一起奪冠過的隊友的球衣號全部都退,才有誠意
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2016-08-23T06:57
應該退24 8號是成為巨星 但24是成為傳奇
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2016-08-25T03:57
24號 衣服旁邊要掛一塊鐵
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2016-08-27T10:21
3>2 雖然不是迷迷但覺得8號的意義更大
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2016-08-29T00:30
兩個都退
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2016-08-31T10:39
只能退一個真的很難選,但老大退休穿24應該就退24吧
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2016-09-04T21:25
(24+8)/ 2=16 退16號吧
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2016-09-08T09:13
別爭了,105
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2016-09-10T22:30
要用鐵鑄造這兩件 掛在球館
William avatar
By William
at 2016-09-13T01:34
8+24=32
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2016-09-17T09:58
退24,但日後有穿8的在主場和丹佛不能上場
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2016-09-19T23:02
兩件都退
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2016-09-20T00:21
5 81 105 8 24五件一起退
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2016-09-24T18:52
看來兩派意見都有,兩個時期的老大魅力一樣高
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2016-09-28T21:25
都退 老大就是帥
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2016-10-01T15:40
最後三年生涯最大汙點?你怎不說喬神最後一年也是生
涯最大汙點
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2016-10-02T07:58
取平均退16號
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2016-10-03T03:36
MJ最後一年20/6/3.8/1.5/0.5,你確定要和老大比?
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2016-10-08T02:20
贊成湖人退24號,金快退8號
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2016-10-08T23:15
8號縫在shaq的球褲上 XD
William avatar
By William
at 2016-10-10T12:58
退幾號都無所謂 因為沒人敢再穿另外一個號碼了
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2016-10-11T11:24
8號到24號都退以表敬意
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2016-10-15T08:47
退8寶寶
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2016-10-18T00:55
有8才有24
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2016-10-20T08:50
最後三年Kobe又沒上多少場次....這也能是污點阿
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2016-10-23T05:21
24號吧,創下湖人季賽陣亡最多次數的一哥,徹底脫離8
號副手宿命.
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2016-10-27T16:05
退一件 留一件當傳承給二代老大 選我正解
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2016-10-31T04:16
都退吧 不然誰敢穿8or24!?
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2016-11-05T04:08
Dlo也許
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2016-11-08T16:24
兩個號碼繡在一件上吧
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By Hedwig
at 2016-11-13T10:02
都退+1,不退也沒人敢選~
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By Dinah
at 2016-11-18T07:58
明天勇士73勝+Kobe破40分 NBA版會紫爆嗎?
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By Gilbert
at 2016-11-20T08:25
當然選在丹佛赫赫有名的8號囚衣啊
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By Megan
at 2016-11-22T05:30
西區尼克
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By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2016-11-26T10:46
24吧 經歷幾年低潮再重回巔峰拿二連霸 太傳奇了
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2016-11-27T18:50
8號縫在Shaq的球褲上 肚子好痛XDDD 也太靠悲了
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By Puput
at 2016-11-28T12:38
退 都退
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By Christine
at 2016-11-30T00:13
24,不然105或581也不錯,反正8要繡在別人褲子上
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By Ursula
at 2016-12-01T22:47
推一芣
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By Charlotte
at 2016-12-04T03:57
both
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By Zenobia
at 2016-12-08T07:39
不管退哪個 另一個也沒人敢穿了吧
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By Edwina
at 2016-12-08T08:42
退24 現在小孩只記得24
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2016-12-09T04:48
24
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By Valerie
at 2016-12-11T07:56
應該是50號 16+34
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By Frederic
at 2016-12-16T02:03
24
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2016-12-16T08:55
(8+24)/2=15 又跟105相呼應 退休15號吧
...發現算錯了哭
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2016-12-19T11:04
混在一起退32號 選我正解
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By Aaliyah
at 2016-12-20T17:10
退休105號 因為...........
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2016-12-24T02:54
退87號,不能再多了
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By Barb Cronin
at 2016-12-27T01:05
應該從0號到99號全退了 以表對老大的敬意

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By Zenobia
at 2016-04-13T13:43
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NBA Standings(2016.04.13)

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By David
at 2016-04-13T13:41
EASTERN W L PCT GB CONF DIV Home ROAD L10 STR PF PA DIFF e Cleveland -57 24 .704 - 35-16 8-7 33-7 24-17 6-4 W1 104.3 98.2 6.1 a T ...

Curry致弟弟:我看到你了喔

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By Heather
at 2016-04-13T13:33
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NBA》腳上刺林書豪 正妹從崩潰變豪粉

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By Olga
at 2016-04-13T13:10
NBA》腳上刺林書豪 正妹從崩潰變豪粉 2016/04/13 12:31 〔體育中心/綜合報導〕表達對球員的喜愛有很多方式,一名女球迷日前在腳上用刺青刻 下林書豪的中文姓名,但她卻差點因此崩潰。 這位女球迷叫Holland Christensen,她先前因打算在腳踝上刺上中文刺青,但不了解中 文向網友發 ...

洛杉磯將地鐵改名「Kobe站」

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By Rebecca
at 2016-04-13T12:59
http://sports.ltn.com.tw/news/breakingnews/1662896 〔記者林宗偉/綜合報導〕 湖人明將在主場迎戰爵士,儘管爵士得看此戰才能知曉是否晉級季後賽, 但球迷更關注的是紫金一哥布萊恩告別秀,洛杉磯甚至把史戴波中心最近的地 鐵站暫時改名為「Kobe站」。 史戴波中心 ...