淺談Kobe - NBA

By Linda
at 2015-12-30T16:02

Table of Contents

其實kobe很強沒有話說阿，當年05~10年確實沒啥人擋得住他，這是事實

但是就事論事，05~07年的時候，科迷口中的半場地圖砲的三年，球隊確實戰績普通，這
也是事實。

ps.(我知道一定有人要跳針，西區當時比
較強。但你怎麽不說，當時兩區球風就是不一樣，西區重攻輕守，所以kobe才刷分容易)

而08~10年拿了兩冠，Gasol的ws全隊第一也是事實，更何況Pau沒來前還不是喊吹米

而湖人歷史悠久，才幾次沒進季後賽，kobe就佔了快八成，沒有二主將就要死不活的戰績
，帶隊能力讓人質疑，這也是事實啦。

ps(或許有人又要扯受傷，不然是怎樣？
講白點，你領球隊一半薪資，無法貢獻，就是扯後腿啦，你不領那麼多，球隊會無法補強
嗎？會一傷，就沒主力嗎？)

kobe顛峰時期真的強，沒話說啊

但沒有必要，捧得太誇張，沒有Gasol,他那幾年一人帶，戰績就是在那裡。F5組團失敗，
戰績更是慘澹，也是事實

更沒必要去攻擊其他球員來捧kobe,把他捧得誇張，或用批評其他球員來捧，就不要怕被
別人酸一些事實

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Tags: NBA

All Comments

By Lucy
at 2016-01-01T04:14

這文才值得推爆!!!!!!!!

By Rebecca
at 2016-01-05T08:49

所以某人抱腿的也是事實摟?

By Tracy
at 2016-01-08T11:43

kobe

By Annie
at 2016-01-11T10:04

可是你的ID喜歡LA 沒話說阿

By Ina
at 2016-01-13T23:27

迷迷會說kobe的商業價值你不懂
今年湖人有機會破隊史最慘紀錄

By Donna
at 2016-01-17T06:02

組你老z 渣渣dh 年老Nash

By Harry
at 2016-01-20T19:21

小巴斯接手湖人慘不忍睹

By Ida
at 2016-01-24T23:10

一直亂捧事實都被忽略

By Tracy
at 2016-01-29T02:57

Dh季後賽帶隊被橫掃趕出場
Nash 幾歲？什麼鳥表現？

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2016-01-31T11:55

World peace f5 ? 腦

By Elizabeth
at 2016-02-04T05:43

照你說的沒老大剩下f4 季後賽0-4 多強？

By Ursula
at 2016-02-04T21:34

樓上標準kobe被人討厭原因之一

By Erin
at 2016-02-05T14:33

笑死還沒回答沒Kobe 你口中f4多強

By Ina
at 2016-02-06T10:32

誤忘四顆麵包帶F4回家

By Carolina Franco
at 2016-02-10T10:08

Sgg干老大屁事人家去年生涯年他在湖人？

By Sarah
at 2016-02-12T04:41

湖迷真的很愛追殺dh，當初好像還一堆人高潮呢

By Caroline
at 2016-02-16T05:04

Kobe自行帶隊隊史黑暗期好強好強

By Barb Cronin
at 2016-02-20T09:30

來看看會不會爆

By Mason
at 2016-02-22T22:01

噓

By Carolina Franco
at 2016-02-26T16:41

那年沒世界和平哪來的冠軍阿..他撿到老大的麵包球耶

By Irma
at 2016-02-27T13:40

我科迷你講的很中肯不過這就是nba版理性球迷畢竟
少數

By Agatha
at 2016-02-29T05:13

別再湖迷面前提DH 湖迷超討厭他的

By Vanessa
at 2016-03-01T10:58

就主宰力lbj＞kobe 毋庸置疑但我還是愛kobe

By Edward Lewis
at 2016-03-03T05:00

超同情DH的一個當代第一中鋒被嫌成這樣

By Carol
at 2016-03-03T10:59

Dh中二的料到哪都ㄧ樣出手跟Thornton 差不多

By Mason
at 2016-03-04T23:08

就這種等級啦

By Isabella
at 2016-03-07T10:42

每年喊不開心想要更多球權然後勒幾年了

By Anonymous
at 2016-03-08T17:04

湖人防守超級破靠DH在擦屁股湖迷看的到嗎?

By Kristin
at 2016-03-12T18:51

Nash好歹也是MVP得主 180俱樂部常客也被嫌

By Isla
at 2016-03-15T11:11

更不用說Pau了二連霸主將王牌也被叫自盡

By Rebecca
at 2016-03-16T03:54

蠻好笑的 6-7年前的mvp跟現在有關係

By Franklin
at 2016-03-20T22:10

呵呵當初DH來時湖迷未打一副拿冠軍的樣子
結果現在追殺成這樣看了真好笑

By Candice
at 2016-03-23T05:32

MWP防守擦一堆人屁股這陣容被嫌呵呵

By Selena
at 2016-03-23T10:38

嫌pau我可沒說過

By Aaliyah
at 2016-03-28T05:28

直接捅到脆弱的心

By Anonymous
at 2016-04-01T22:29

所以當這三人合體又沒毒瘤應該直衝總冠軍吧？樓上
？

By Mason
at 2016-04-03T19:15

Mwp算巨頭的話聯盟可能有50個巨頭

By Rachel
at 2016-04-04T07:01

奇文共賞

By Belly
at 2016-04-04T19:06

合體之後季後賽Kobe 沒打結果只是ㄧ輪被橫掃的料

By Caroline
at 2016-04-05T15:56

勿忘ㄙㄌㄅ史上最好笑

By Zenobia
at 2016-04-06T14:08

一個待退的討論這麼多幹嘛勇士柯瑞一堆可以討論

By Yedda
at 2016-04-10T17:45

連H8K那時也一直發自慰文結果到最後也把人家批評

By Sierra Rose
at 2016-04-13T06:01

就不甘寂寞一直捧啊

By Una
at 2016-04-14T22:13

的一無是處

By Jacob
at 2016-04-19T10:22

MWP 2000年後第一個非禁區球員DPOY 不是巨頭那誰是

By Caroline
at 2016-04-20T15:06

教練是湖迷說的母私神算MB 還有母獅大腿Jamison

By Victoria
at 2016-04-24T01:23

西區強多了

By Susan
at 2016-04-25T11:31

要看看當年啊

By Lucy
at 2016-04-29T18:07

打不好的時候批評沒關係吧 kobe亂投的時候我們也是
一肚子火阿大部分人都是很愛Gasol跟老衲的

By Leila
at 2016-05-01T16:34

當年都是說第二中鋒Bynum無痛升級到第一中鋒DH

By Bennie
at 2016-05-04T23:06

大家和解吧～

By Zora
at 2016-05-08T19:15

某人真的崩潰了欸狂噓猛噓瘋狂追殺

By William
at 2016-05-13T00:08

然後組巨投的最大風險本來就都是傷病尤其又一堆老

By Linda
at 2016-05-15T17:32

頭兩次其實傷病都佔很大的因素

By Victoria
at 2016-05-18T02:20

10年後world peace 的數據當巨頭不到10分勒

By Kama
at 2016-05-19T12:57

噓文5次可以水桶了年輕人就是年輕人

By Tom
at 2016-05-19T14:05

誰說jr算巨頭？亂扣帽
還管別人推噓啊你哪位

By Emma
at 2016-05-24T12:30

你平常不是科酸嗎？？

By Mason
at 2016-05-24T23:59

我剛剛也在看進桶嘍

By Edward Lewis
at 2016-05-26T14:18

DH加入的時候kobe命中率是明顯提升的，自己去查吧

By Cara
at 2016-05-28T15:30

ya 桶桶桶都桶小年輕

By Yuri
at 2016-06-01T11:42

好中肯給你推

By Thomas
at 2016-06-02T01:34

好兇哦~ZZZ

By Joseph
at 2016-06-02T23:13

這種廢文有人推太猛啦

By Yuri
at 2016-06-04T05:04

老大組多巨頭都很廢，但雙核心卻拿了5冠，只能說他
是一個非常奇妙的球員

By Dorothy
at 2016-06-06T17:15

本篇標準科黑被人討厭的原因

By Kyle
at 2016-06-09T12:29

柯迷崩潰不把柯比捧得比MJ高很多柯迷真的會不爽

By George
at 2016-06-12T04:03

是科迷討人厭的原因吧？

By Regina
at 2016-06-15T00:59

難怪總版永遠戰火不停

By Elizabeth
at 2016-06-17T19:09

讓他爆

By Hedy
at 2016-06-19T11:20

太好笑了哪時捧比mj高

By Zenobia
at 2016-06-19T18:09

每個人有不同立場，我不會因為這樣崩潰啊

By Ethan
at 2016-06-22T20:38

姐姐是領繩專用

By Valerie
at 2016-06-24T01:19

建議看看海綿56優文

By Susan
at 2016-06-26T22:23

神話科比隊友的科黑才是令人嘆為觀止

By Connor
at 2016-06-30T22:01

你討厭老大就覺得他很廢，喜歡他就會覺得他很偉大，

By Charlotte
at 2016-07-04T21:30

如此而已

By Bethany
at 2016-07-07T23:24

窩屁帶火箭跟湖人肉搏隔年進湖人絕殺太陽 G7關鍵三
分時絕對是球星只是進湖人後沒球權數劇掉了但１
３年體能就在退化腳也有傷單防還很罩速度、團防
就很吃力了拿過DPOY窩屁是１３年拿的？？

By Agnes
at 2016-07-08T02:32

笑死重攻輕守所以得分高?要不要去看看一堆50+的比
賽是對東區打的

By Ursula
at 2016-07-09T07:59

又在拿東區季後賽說嘴

By Elizabeth
at 2016-07-13T11:29

啊怎麼沒有場均50+ 只有0.67@@?

By Ethan
at 2016-07-17T01:58

0.0

By Lily
at 2016-07-18T07:20

告訴你 1Kobe=50+ 只是季後賽會被掃掉

By Isabella
at 2016-07-19T13:58

一堆腿科迷平常酸他人主子不遺餘力酸到自己主子
連忙來噓

By Steve
at 2016-07-21T07:37

拿第二次F4來說嘴只是顯得你無知老納廢成那樣和

By Agatha
at 2016-07-22T12:07

兩次組F4的淒慘下場算是生涯污點但這比較像湖人這

By Carolina Franco
at 2016-07-27T01:01

平也就是個老鎖 DH進攻也悲劇這樣也可以扯?

By Jacky
at 2016-07-28T22:39

這支球隊的污點而非老大，從管理階層到教練到球員

By Kyle
at 2016-08-01T22:53

拿到個人獎項後不管之後的年齡體能都能叫巨頭那歐
肥更大咖榮譽更多他進騎士時不就超巨頭？？

By Liam
at 2016-08-04T16:13

DH當年號稱第一C 結果在湖人被黑慘慘

By Edith
at 2016-08-07T13:55

淚推老年Nash

By James
at 2016-08-07T23:56

1kobe=0.67 這個單位是甚麼我就不說了

By Isabella
at 2016-08-11T08:24

可憐第一控被說成這樣

By Emma
at 2016-08-11T19:45

來湖人前有人知道他這麼爛?由此可見東區實力多爛

By Donna
at 2016-08-15T22:02

DH被黑主要是心態問題，想當老大卻不想抗責，想要球
權打背框，明明有Nash在卻不想打擋拆，你能不氣嗎？

By Emily
at 2016-08-19T09:22

難怪某禿躲東區拿亞軍

By Olive
at 2016-08-22T20:30

來了來了，一次黑整個分區的大地圖砲來了

By Jacob
at 2016-08-26T21:30

防守好就要稱f5嗎哇不要污蔑馬龍
火箭在西區啊 xddd

By Robert
at 2016-08-29T01:46

推推

By Oliver
at 2016-09-01T14:49

腿科迷開大決:詹維拉登場救援

By Wallis
at 2016-09-06T04:57

Nash這個好好先生都罕見的動怒了，DH自己也有問題吧

By Catherine
at 2016-09-08T17:35

他之後跑去跟另一個第一SG一隊
難道火箭在西區嗎?

By Genevieve
at 2016-09-13T16:37

*不是在西區嗎?
還是能闖進西冠阿

By Lily
at 2016-09-15T09:28

躲東區到底是三小啊氣到腦子使不上了嗎？

By Gary
at 2016-09-17T07:30

DH真的沒這麼弱,離開湖人去火箭後也進了年度第二隊

By Mia
at 2016-09-21T05:58

DH在火箭很認份不要球權幹苦工，當然沒問題

By Valerie
at 2016-09-25T20:07

闖西冠是要犯+快艇史詩級耍腦...
Dh多carry?
拿當年看最準啊給dh單獨帶隊就是0-4

By Una
at 2016-09-29T22:55

到火箭第一年西區第四到火箭第二年西區第二

By Daniel
at 2016-10-01T06:15

好可怕快逃啊有人引戰救命啊

By Rae
at 2016-10-04T20:37

當年湖人連進季後賽都是靠罰球了對比打進西冠

By Xanthe
at 2016-10-05T03:57

西區第二季賽DH打幾場啊

By Belly
at 2016-10-09T05:28

其他隊友都沒少只少kobe
好強的巨頭跟幫手老大不在就0-4

By Hedda
at 2016-10-11T11:03

老大在->50罰進季後賽有差?

By Poppy
at 2016-10-12T12:49

拜託整個球季都被kobe鐵掉一人霸球你要他們突然磨合
有可能嗎

By Donna
at 2016-10-13T07:46

火箭確實蠻諷刺的，畢竟火箭PG也是傷

By Poppy
at 2016-10-17T16:50

兩次F4下場慘都跟人和&傷兵有關可自慰一下非戰之罪

By Olive
at 2016-10-18T07:10

裝三小中墾

By Linda
at 2016-10-20T21:43

現在推文逢科/詹就酸這個風氣真的很奇怪

By Genevieve
at 2016-10-25T01:18

五冠也是事實啦。

By Lily
at 2016-10-27T21:33

噓噓der

By Olive
at 2016-10-31T17:49

腿迷就可以說去年是因為傷兵輸勇士卻自動忽略當年

By Yuri
at 2016-10-31T19:56

湖人傷的更多

By Erin
at 2016-10-31T22:22

明明就是科酸然後還在裝中立

By Tom
at 2016-11-01T03:07

第2次F4全隊一起打過幾場啊? DH還成天上新聞

By Annie
at 2016-11-02T16:37

薪水多寡更多的是該球員可以為球隊帶來多少收益
所以Kobe即使場均5分2板一樣值得2500萬薪水

By Joseph
at 2016-11-06T21:37

老大這麼認真，被愛玩的DH托下水，多看球啊孩子

By Zanna
at 2016-11-08T02:38

https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Lakers/M.1421138860.A.22E
.html

By Frederica
at 2016-11-11T00:02

一個打到總冠軍一個靠50罰進季後賽怎比?
傷更多笑話一則

By Rosalind
at 2016-11-13T15:51

當時有整理的傷兵表挺長的XD

By Iris
at 2016-11-15T07:44

LBJ狂飆分大火串燒寄生蟲

By Jacob
at 2016-11-15T15:42

推

By Blanche
at 2016-11-19T18:00

來看柯迷崩潰囉

By Necoo
at 2016-11-23T00:53

笑了

By Blanche
at 2016-11-23T03:22

聽說有發錢來領500

By Ingrid
at 2016-11-24T18:21

蠻中肯的阿原po也有承認kobe很強怎崩成這樣

By Hamiltion
at 2016-11-29T09:10

都知道一人帶了你告訴我最猛的一人球隊走多遠

By Queena
at 2016-12-03T21:50

AI夠一人了吧帶到哪不用多說了吧

By Hardy
at 2016-12-04T00:42

AI有木桶伯欸

By Lucy
at 2016-12-05T14:36

怎麼沒發錢

By Lucy
at 2016-12-06T17:48

被打臉囉

By Damian
at 2016-12-06T21:35

好響

By Rachel
at 2016-12-11T12:51

臉腫腫

By Iris
at 2016-12-13T20:28

AI一人球隊zz 果然防守組沒人權

By Doris
at 2016-12-15T22:00

其實不是沒有啦...但是拿出來提蠻沒品的
就大羅和Ewing，隊友還真的不是那麼好

By Christine
at 2016-12-17T03:35

朝聖推

By Kama
at 2016-12-19T12:50

所以到底哪隊能跟DH+Gasol+kobe比?

By Oscar
at 2016-12-23T08:36

所以為啥姆斯+歐肥沒拿三連霸?

By Tracy
at 2016-12-26T09:58

大羅在TD來前最好的隊友是Elliott

By Kama
at 2016-12-29T13:06

歐肥37歲 12分6籃板迷迷覺得是超有宰制力的歐肥?
要舉也舉Wade好嗎傻...

By Carolina Franco
at 2016-12-31T12:31

大歐要看大歐狀態 F5就不用呵呵

By Caitlin
at 2017-01-05T00:17

一堆酸看到F5就高潮阿年紀和健康也都忽略

By Agnes
at 2017-01-07T21:31

所以32歲的Gasol和有傷在身的草莓腿迷覺得有主宰力?

By Hazel
at 2017-01-12T10:34

背傷Nash+老MWP就都是顛峰嗎Zzzz

By Ivy
at 2017-01-14T06:06

2014熱火超豪華陣容被慘電怎麼說?

By Elizabeth
at 2017-01-15T06:30

奇文! 共噓

By Belly
at 2017-01-20T00:52

帶最遠的或許是93-94的ewing了，夠標準嗎？

By Valerie
at 2017-01-20T11:24

Kobe對太陽G6攻入50分惜敗，反觀某人4步上籃絕殺...

By Barb Cronin
at 2017-01-22T02:28

那年還沒開打湖迷呼聲有多高阿現在喊老喊傷呵呵

By Jessica
at 2017-01-22T09:36

2014年總冠軍賽前熱火呼聲多高啊，結果打完某人轉隊

By Andy
at 2017-01-24T19:37

還沒開打呼聲當然高啊XD

By Tristan Cohan
at 2017-01-27T06:07

中肯啊！有砍分實力沒帶隊能力

By Elvira
at 2017-01-30T05:34

還沒開打呼聲高打完說某某不是明星很會XD

By Poppy
at 2017-02-01T16:38

怪了腿獼不是天天在酸典偉和Bosh?

By Irma
at 2017-02-02T20:04

Bosh還曾被批評說沒有資格稱為巨頭

By Sierra Rose
at 2017-02-06T11:12

又一個五噓要入桶哈哈哈神餌欸
撒花

By Agatha
at 2017-02-09T22:57

腿迷要酸還裝中肯何必呢？

By Jacob
at 2017-02-10T05:32

32歲Gasol不強?連去年都很猛了不強?
DH有傷但是打了76場? 哈哈

By Victoria
at 2017-02-12T19:13

拿新F4比邁阿密三星新F4靠罰球進季後賽三星拿兩冠
新F4打那種鳥成績靠乾爹進季後賽被酸正常

By Blanche
at 2017-02-16T14:01

科迷無理噓太多幫補血

By Caitlin
at 2017-02-21T06:32

不過科科迷最愛拉東拉西了哈哈

By Freda
at 2017-02-25T11:54

新F4的第四個人是誰阿?

By Odelette
at 2017-03-01T19:36

Ray不是星?2000萬沒進過星?總冠軍被電爆?

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2017-03-03T16:50

yo開始拉人囉畢竟連DH都可以說成不是明星

By Adele
at 2017-03-07T12:47

跟肩迷認真幹嘛亂拉人也不是一天兩天

By Dorothy
at 2017-03-09T08:55

大歐12分6板可以被忽略；Nash 6分6助攻就不行XDDDD
大歐37歲是您說的　Nash40歲了呢!

By Carol
at 2017-03-12T04:24

講真話就是要開始掃玻璃

By Elma
at 2017-03-15T09:21

明明就12分6助攻...38歲為啥會各種變阿

By Emma
at 2017-03-18T08:34

我也不覺得當年他是球星就像手套一樣

By Zenobia
at 2017-03-22T00:23

不過手套當年是進不了狀況就是了
戰術融不進去

By Puput
at 2017-03-24T00:54

說DH進攻悲劇的去看看前幾年DH平均幾分
沒有巔峰大歐程度就叫悲劇喔

By Ophelia
at 2017-03-27T10:35

是啦，所以34歲的Kobe要帶著平均13分的Gasol和不會

By Queena
at 2017-03-31T10:50

掩護的中鋒打球還得打很好就對了啦

By Brianna
at 2017-04-02T01:11

離開湖人gasol變雙十國際賽超猛是誰的問題lol

By Delia
at 2017-04-04T05:35

Gasol在湖人數據除了12-13配合DH之外有比較差?
腦X講話都不用管真相的旺中記者水準?

By Edward Lewis
at 2017-04-06T17:34

為反而反

By Zora
at 2017-04-08T08:56

per 16.7 19.3 ->離開湖人 22.7 22.4
別忘了他還變老了

By Ursula
at 2017-04-12T00:31

把Gasol當成平均13分的咖真的是太小看她了

By Hedy
at 2017-04-14T16:50

去看看Nash前一年數據多少大歐也可以去看看

By James
at 2017-04-15T19:56

16.7=配合DH 19.3那季的禁區主要搭檔是Jordan Hill
和霸者Sacre 你要把這兩個跟公牛給予的內外支援相比

By Robert
at 2017-04-20T16:55

較? 真是不簡單

By Donna
at 2017-04-22T00:22

Gasol13年打49場跟離開後能比?

By Isabella
at 2017-04-25T01:07

聽說有錢領啊？

By Genevieve
at 2017-04-28T16:38

Gasol還老兩歲能跟之前比?XD

By Kelly
at 2017-04-30T10:45

無視傷病，果然神奇

By Zanna
at 2017-05-01T05:05

這種陣容能打到要靠50罰黑掉灰狼來進季後賽

By Irma
at 2017-05-02T17:44

真的不知道怎麼做到的

By Hedda
at 2017-05-04T21:22

其實還有黑掉國王

By Candice
at 2017-05-09T21:06

就跟某人身邊一堆欽點的護衛然後烙跑一樣現在升級
成身邊一堆欽點的護衛然後告訴老闆不一定能奪冠

By Damian
at 2017-05-11T23:44

廢文

By Callum
at 2017-05-12T01:14

樓上講中文好嗎哈哈

By Brianna
at 2017-05-14T08:26

又害我笑破一件內褲了

By Liam
at 2017-05-17T07:33

破條內褲的概念是？

By Tom
at 2017-05-22T06:59

推

By Gary
at 2017-05-24T08:55

腿沾迷最愛雙重標準了

By Belly
at 2017-05-25T23:35

寄生蟲也懂發文？

By Charlotte
at 2017-05-28T05:48

對啦 0.67輪都隊友的錯 kobe怎麼會有錯呢~

By Ivy
at 2017-05-30T10:27

中墾

By Thomas
at 2017-06-04T04:24

立場中肯，論述清楚

By Xanthe
at 2017-06-07T13:41

分身哥

By Robert
at 2017-06-10T02:16

我是優值科迷，給推

By Dinah
at 2017-06-14T04:16

值得一推

By Yedda
at 2017-06-17T20:03

%%%%%

By Ophelia
at 2017-06-20T22:30

頗喝

By Eden
at 2017-06-24T12:05

By Yedda
at 2017-06-25T05:48

By Oliver
at 2017-06-27T13:28

哈哈

By Elma
at 2017-06-29T23:29

阿就商業效益啊柯酸去多讀點書別在這惹人嫌好嗎

By Eartha
at 2017-06-30T08:53

中肯，真科迷都會贊同你

By Quintina
at 2017-07-03T15:04

回去想清楚點再來吧

By Michael
at 2017-07-05T20:26

厲害

By Bennie
at 2017-07-07T18:46

Kobe本來就很準，就算扣掉三分，0.45也不錯了

By Edward Lewis
at 2017-07-11T05:46

Jordan也0.47啊，，何況他三分還沒投那麼多

By Kama
at 2017-07-16T02:14

loser別裝中肯

By Daniel
at 2017-07-16T15:48

拿一個受傷KB+衰退DH跟年輕KB+全盛歐肥比?

By Hazel
at 2017-07-17T23:42

第二次f4還沒開打就知道kb會被酸爆，也並不是每個
湖迷都認為一定總冠，只是沒想到打這麼差

By Anthony
at 2017-07-19T06:32

如果要把wp算巨頭，熱火甚至是更年輕的f5

By Rebecca
at 2017-07-22T11:13

喊trade me至少比the decision給球隊更多回饋好嗎

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