歷史Top25防守者排名 by Hollinger - NBA

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By Callum
at 2022-01-28T13:52

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付費文章:https://bit.ly/3IOrEKh

NBA 75周年 The Athletic開啟了一系列講古文
John Hollinger (之前灰熊Grit n' Grind時期的副總管)撰寫一篇NBA過去優秀的防守
者的介紹文,文章長快6000字,翻不下去...

以下隨便節錄一些
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賽爾提克得到Bill Russell前一年,防守排名第六;
Russell 離開後一年,防守排名第八;
Russell 在的13年有12年第一,而且領先第二一大截。

Russell絕對是最偉大的防守者。

影片:Russell蓋Jerry West
https://youtu.be/W9OWf3JuISc

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Dennis Johnson, Bobby Jones兩人都入選9次防守隊伍

雖然年度防守隊伍投票很容易因為大市場得利,Dennis Johnson賽爾提克、Bobby Jones
七六人、Cooper湖人都是當時最知名的球隊,不過Johnson和Jones也有在其他隊伍時入選
過,球隊也都有很好的防守

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Mark Eaton和Mutombo都是聯盟最頂尖的禁區守護者,但是都比不上同時代另兩個高機動
的守護者:Hakeem Olajuwon 和 David Robinson.

Robinson因為兩個系列賽,很少在偉大的防守者中被討論:1995被Ola打爆、2001被
O'Neal打爆。不過他在Duncan來到馬刺前,就已經在1991帶球隊防守第一,1992最佳防守
球員,他頂尖禁區的護框能力,和守到外圍球員的高機動性,他到現代會是更主宰的防守
者。

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Olajuwon是最被低估的防守者,Hollinger小時候對於他在1986冠軍賽,連抄賽爾提克三
球印象深刻!

影片:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYV5T9Eldms (25:00左右)

他的抄截能力連很多後衛都比不上,連續五季排在聯盟前12

如果你懶得看完整的比賽,看這個Play就夠了,Ola一人守公牛五人!
https://youtu.be/MQ2pEirjakM

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Jordan 防守名聲建立在他關鍵時刻認真起來,不過大部分時候他還是專注在進攻,防守
交給Pippen(而且他常常賭博...我是指球場上...)

Pippen很可惜不能在現代防守,他的防守覆蓋範圍,和斷球線的能力,面對現代拉開的進
攻空間,會是更可貴的能力。同時他擅長全場壓迫對面的控衛。

Pippen在1993-94和1994-95,沒有Jordan和Pippen的時候,帶公牛防守聯盟第二。

他的抄截率4.0%,是6-8以上球員最高的,而且領先第二名一大截。

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(實在懶得翻了,直接跳到排名)
介紹完這些球員後,只有傻子才會去排Top 25的防守球員

我就傻

這邊是我個人(Hollinger)毫無疑問不完美的排名:

1.Bill Russell
2.Hakeem Olajuwon
3.Tim Duncan
4.Kevin Garnett
5.Rudy Gobert
6.Scottie Pippen
7.Draymond Green
8.David Robinson
9.Ben Wallace
10.Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
11.Dennis Rodman
12.Bobby Jones
13.Jason Kidd
14.Wilt Chamberlain
15.Kawhi Leonard
16.Giannis Antetokounmpo
17.Michael Jordan
18.LeBron James
19.Dikembe Mutombo
20.Sidney Moncrief
21.Dennis Johnson
22.Dwight Howard
23.Gary Payton
24.Bruce Bowen
25.(tie) Marc Gasol and Tony Allen

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All Comments

Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2022-01-29T11:15
LBJ>魔獸??
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2022-01-30T08:38
Bruce Bowen
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2022-01-31T06:01
叉腰防守排18嘻嘻
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2022-01-30T14:13
這名單沒拿過最佳防守球員應該不少?
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2022-01-31T11:36
前10共通:移動力高能守多位置
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2022-01-30T14:13
這篇又要戰起來了吧 這只是作者個人主觀排名
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2022-01-31T11:36
狗貝感覺有點高
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2022-01-30T14:13
那個不回防的你跟我說防守
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2022-01-31T11:36
嘴綠排名有夠前面,連班蛙都輸他…真的很個人觀點
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2022-01-30T14:13
前18到LBJ好像都一様
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2022-01-31T11:36
排這個就是引戰啊,主觀更引戰,釣起來
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2022-01-30T14:13
狗貝感覺的 不要只感覺 去看狗貝比賽
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2022-01-31T11:36
裴頓跟魔獸太低了吧 還輸姆斯
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2022-01-30T14:13
抄截王呢
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2022-01-31T11:36
防守強不強要看同期的進攻有沒怪物吧 這很難講
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2022-01-30T14:13
我先來,goat和候選人都那麼後面,你有沒有看比賽
的啊
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2022-01-31T11:36
姆斯巔峰防守不差吧 DH這次有上榜了
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2022-01-30T14:13
ZAZA呢 一腳守下一冠
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2022-01-31T11:36
追魂鍋打敗73勝球隊奪冠
很可以
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2022-01-30T14:13
魔獸 木桶伯跟手套排在姆斯後面…?
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2022-01-31T11:36
不是說狗貝防守不好,三座dpoy就擺在那裡,但目前
趨勢就是要長人一直去補防外線,又不是他最擅長的
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2022-01-30T14:13
沒阿鼻地獄要調整一下 守爆Wade、KI耶
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2022-01-31T11:36
姆斯巔峰防守很好 但這樣比魔獸一>姆斯啦
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2022-01-30T14:13
攻守一體喬怎麼被寫這樣 他一定不懂球
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2022-01-31T11:36
DG的防守範囲&布陣是真的強
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2022-01-30T14:13
狗貝直接改變對手對陣爵士時的進攻策略 光這樣就夠
強了
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2022-01-31T11:36
kobe呢
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2022-01-30T14:13
這誰啦 有鄉民懂防守???
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2022-01-31T11:36
Green排那麼前面大概是要引起話題的吧
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2022-01-30T14:13
Draymond防守就是很強啊,而且他不只自己強,還很會
指揮隊友
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2022-01-31T11:36
主觀過頭了…12次防守陣容的Kobe沒上榜
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2022-01-30T14:13
防守陣容本身也是主觀投票啊
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2022-01-31T11:36
沒世界和平就是廢文
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2022-01-30T14:13
防守陣容也是主觀阿
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2022-01-31T11:36
cooper rodman沒入選不服
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2022-01-30T14:13
瞎了沒看到Rodman 補推
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2022-01-31T11:36
Green再強也不會強過Rodman和Mutombo啦
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2022-01-30T14:13
居然沒有Tony allen
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2022-01-31T11:36
這名單大部分都至少是dopy的候選人了
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2022-01-30T14:13
補充一下 cooper rodman和Artest正好是他內文有提到
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2022-01-31T11:36
喔喔在最後 但也太後了吧
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2022-01-30T14:13
但沒被排進去的三個
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2022-01-31T11:36
rodman不是排在11嗎
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2022-01-30T14:13
純外線大鎖or内線肉柱相對後面
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2022-01-31T11:36
嘴綠字母包溫有加成吧
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2022-01-30T14:13
PER火靈哥
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2022-01-31T11:36
這些人大概還算中肯 但排序我很不認同
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2022-01-30T14:13
果然叫russ的都是狠角色,古有Bill,今有龜龜,守住
喇叭跟KD的男人
George avatar
By George
at 2022-01-31T11:36
嘴綠光季後賽擊墜一堆主將就夠排top10
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2022-01-30T14:13
rodman有在,被推文誤導了...
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2022-01-31T11:36
一次、兩次是可能是主觀吧…但12次評選人員不同還主
觀的話….
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2022-01-30T14:13
不然你說你要用kobe擠掉名單中的誰?
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2022-01-31T11:36
姆斯要看他認不認真吧
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2022-01-30T14:13
覺得賭歪太低了
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2022-01-31T11:36
認真起來配上他的噸位速度還有判斷也是很猛的
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2022-01-30T14:13
我馬刺TD迷 TD太高了
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2022-01-31T11:36
沒看過幾場爵士的比賽,看到的都是狗貝被虐的場XDDD
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2022-01-30T14:13
連回防都懶的排18是把其他認真防守的球員當北七是吧
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2022-01-31T11:36
第三名一個DPOY都沒拿到XD
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2022-01-30T14:13
魔獸也太低QQ
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-01-31T11:36
這排名不止單防,還兼協防能力強, 不論排名,我個
人還算認同
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2022-01-30T14:13
第九的班蛙看不清楚
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2022-01-31T11:36
比較好奇的是原來張伯倫防守還不錯?
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2022-01-30T14:13
第三那個活該啦 蓋火鍋還要想蓋給隊友撿
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2022-01-31T11:36
綠師傅那麼前面?比上將和賈霸都高?
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2022-01-30T14:13
羅素爺那個年代記得聯盟大多是白人球員 機體真的碾
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2022-01-31T11:36
LBJ?
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2022-01-30T14:13
不過 張真人沒有上榜?
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2022-01-31T11:36
老詹排到18這傢伙詹酸了吧 老詹認真守 歷史上能全身
而退的不到三個人吧
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2022-01-30T14:13
真人怎麼會沒有
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2022-01-31T11:36
有啊 14
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2022-01-30T14:13
張伯倫速度超快 機體超強 又高 觀念不要太爛的話很
難多差
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2022-01-31T11:36
嘴綠還有指揮能力吧 幫上防守buff
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2022-01-30T14:13
張大帥那個機體認真起來很強啊 他就算老了都還可以
蓋賈霸的天鉤
我記得有人po過影片
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2022-01-31T11:36
推文老詹問號的去看熱火時期放手賈嫂的影片吧
防守*
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2022-01-30T14:13
手套那邊是不是可以*2
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2022-01-31T11:36
真的 TD蓋鍋帥一點甩出界外印象分數一定大增
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2022-01-30T14:13
魔獸 木桶伯 太低
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2022-01-31T11:36
有個髒東西混在後面…
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2022-01-30T14:13
阿泰勒
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2022-01-31T11:36
推分享
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2022-01-30T14:13
魔獸:別在乎排名了 這年頭能進榜我都覺得不可思議
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2022-01-31T11:36
論體系防守 Green也不可能贏過Wallace
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2022-01-30T14:13
把TD排這麼前面的名單肯定專業! DPOY史上最大遺珠
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2022-01-31T11:36
狗貝第五 哇
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2022-01-30T14:13
CP3 9次防守隊6次抄截王應該有資格前25吧
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2022-01-31T11:36
歷史上像嘴綠能在場上指揮防守的沒幾個吧,真的很強
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2022-01-30T14:13
可愛有點太低吧,他認真防守真的很可怕
論外圍防守我覺得可愛比皮本還可怕
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2022-01-31T11:36
說LBJ不值得18的是酸酸嗎?會插眼、踢蛋、埋雷、推
人上籃,排第一都不過分好嗎
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2022-01-30T14:13
魔獸有點低
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2022-01-31T11:36
第一名應該是嘴巴防守的酸民吧?
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2022-01-30T14:13
阿鼻地獄呢?
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2022-01-31T11:36
推103樓,你們別太過份,人家可是Goat
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2022-01-30T14:13
字母才16 太低估他了 希臘神墊可不是只有這樣
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2022-01-31T11:36
td防守一直到生涯晚期都很有水準
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2022-01-30T14:13
所以TD拿了史上最多15次最佳防守陣容…
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2022-01-31T11:36
酸詹的是沒看過以前的防守哦 三不五時就追魂鍋
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2022-01-30T14:13
4和5太高了
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2022-01-31T11:36
姆斯熱火時期防守很猛
Una avatar
By Una
at 2022-01-30T14:13
13也太高
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2022-01-31T11:36
Kobe咧?沒有他這篇會被科迷碎了!
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2022-01-30T14:13
Bruce Bowen zzz
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2022-01-31T11:36
我大TD排這麼前面就知道是專業的了
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2022-01-30T14:13
總管跟鄉民,我覺得總管比較值得信賴
至少人家是有砸錢投入的
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2022-01-31T11:36
飛踢防守怎麼輸
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2022-01-30T14:13
聽說老詹不防守?
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2022-01-31T11:36
防守裁判
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2022-01-30T14:13
姆斯那個機體只是要不要防守而已
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2022-01-31T11:36
沒kobe真的可以下去了
阿鼻地獄叫假的
cp3也沒有
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2022-01-30T14:13
kobe防守不輸喬丹
看他第一隊次數多少…
9次防守一陣
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2022-01-31T11:36
魔獸後期的操作 巔峰時期超強表現無形被磨滅掉不少
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2022-01-30T14:13
對啊怎麼沒老大 阿鼻地獄欸
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2022-01-31T11:36
狗背沒這麼高 他的外圍防守並不出色 也沒到別人不敢
挑戰他的地步
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2022-01-30T14:13
嘴綠也才4次排第7
這很詭異吧…
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2022-01-31T11:36
沒Kobe是有點浮誇
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2022-01-30T14:13
狗貝被鬍子吃爽爽,應該沒這麼高
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2022-01-31T11:36
沒壞孩子杜馬斯跟老史?
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2022-01-30T14:13
以對整隊的防守幫助跟輪轉來看 嘴綠確實比Kobe好
Kobe強在單防後衛,覺得誰防守好要看取決於哪個
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2022-01-31T11:36
LBJ end
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2022-01-30T14:13
姆斯會偷懶 但認真防守很猛沒毛病啊
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2022-01-31T11:36
看到LBJ都入圍就知道根本亂選
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2022-01-30T14:13
Kidd從初期Ason Kidd到生涯末期變Jason Ki
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2022-01-31T11:36
說姆斯沒防守的呢?
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2022-01-30T14:13
阿鼻地獄呢
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2022-01-31T11:36
RMBJ有時候索性不回防這樣也有上榜?!
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2022-01-30T14:13
美國儀翔上榜了,插腰防守監視器防守散步防守樣樣
精通
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2022-01-31T11:36
只要有兩位就可以開啟王朝了 公牛還有三個...pippe
n真的可能是史上最強的非內線防守者
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2022-01-30T14:13
Kobe 的阿鼻地獄ㄋ
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2022-01-31T11:36
Kobe防守不輸MJ都出來了...
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2022-01-30T14:13
綠的防守是真的超級強
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-01-31T11:36
居然沒有典偉
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2022-01-30T14:13
沒AD????
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2022-01-31T11:36
不過一堆詹酸是不是沒看球啊,老詹防守效率非常好,
基本上很少被切入單吃,去看過往比賽,對位到老詹
的基本上不是傳出去就是擋拆換掉,或是跳投
只是這兩年體力條不夠防守會偷懶,沒救的乾脆不回
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2022-01-30T14:13
不是 會偷懶的可以排第18 到底什麼標準...
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2022-01-31T11:36
其實中肯,我相信他這份名單一定有參考drtg甚至近
代還有參考play by play的on off court的def diff
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2022-01-30T14:13
,所以選出來的球員都是數據與實際表現兼具的
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2022-01-31T11:36
沒kobe準備被出征吧..
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2022-01-30T14:13
會偷懶的排18大概是因為認真時有15、16?
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2022-01-31T11:36
火靈哥大概用進階數據排的吧
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2022-01-30T14:13
沒zaza
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2022-01-31T11:36
明顯偷懶也是36歲以後的事,這名單36歲還能防守的
也沒幾個XD
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2022-01-30T14:13
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2022-01-31T11:36
Pippen在1993-94和1994-95,沒有Jordan和"Pippen"的
時候,這行有錯誤
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2022-01-30T14:13
都把包溫排上去了 怎麼露了Zaza和龜孫
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2022-01-31T11:36
認真問,接生小孩比世界和平和老大防守還強嗎
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2022-01-30T14:13
LBJ防守好的印象很大來自一些單防的play 整體防守
影響力最好有贏過DH啦
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2022-01-31T11:36
DH的on off court def diff不夠出色,不要質疑你的
數據大師hollinger,相信TD和KG會得到前三的評價就
是直到晚年,兩人的防守端+/-都相當猛
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2022-01-30T14:13
說錯,是前4
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2022-01-31T11:36
Hollinger我記得蠻數據派的啊 而且感覺他更重視可
以buff全隊防守的球員
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2022-01-30T14:13
我有一點看不懂歐拉朱旺是最被低估的防守者這句話,
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2022-01-31T11:36
有人敢說他不是頂尖等級的嗎?
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2022-01-30T14:13
字母沒第一就不用看了,一腳一個S級誒,GOAT來也一
樣直接讓你下去
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2022-01-31T11:36
勿忘 阿鼻地獄
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2022-01-30T14:13
歐拉光兩次DPOY 9次防守陣容就沒人會小看了….
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2022-01-31T11:36
比較驚訝的是2次DPOY的Morning也沾不到邊…
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2022-01-30T14:13
有髒東西混進來
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2022-01-31T11:36
TD可以把有Kidd靈氣的Kmart守到懷疑人生就知道有多
可怕
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2022-01-30T14:13
沒Kobe?
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2022-01-31T11:36
等下 Kidd在MJ跟GP前面?
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2022-01-30T14:13
MJ 才17?
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2022-01-31T11:36
這種排名肯定是會有人支持反對的啦 如果是用
tier這種來分類 反對會更小
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2022-01-30T14:13
PAYTON排名也太低了....
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2022-01-31T11:36
我覺得小蟲更高一點
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2022-01-30T14:13
Kidd的DWS是所有後衛最高..在他前面的都是中鋒大前
George avatar
By George
at 2022-01-31T11:36
第三名沒拿過DPOY,不過第三可能太高了一點
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2022-01-30T14:13
刷個火鍋數據就叫防守好哦 平常漏人當然不算他的事
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2022-01-31T11:36
但是看一下榜單,好像排第三又有點可以?差在頭銜
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2022-01-30T14:13
hollinger沒在看防守獎項吧,防守獎項主觀印象影響
太重了,hollinger就是純數據流(而且是進階數據或
play by play的數據),這個標準TD拿第三實至名歸
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2022-01-31T11:36
真的欠嘴
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2022-01-30T14:13
怎麼沒有鬼腳艾倫
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2022-01-31T11:36
嘴綠?
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2022-01-30T14:13
裡面怎麼有一個一直假摔的
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2022-01-31T11:36
沒有慈世平慈師傅跟Camby嗎?
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2022-01-30T14:13
馬刺4/25
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2022-01-31T11:36
狗貝:我也是看推特才知道我有歷史第五
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2022-01-30T14:13
有一個叉腰不回防的混進去了
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2022-01-31T11:36
老當排第三沒介紹嘛XD?
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2022-01-30T14:13
個人主觀的,當然誰都可以排一份啊
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2022-01-31T11:36
如果xx認真防守的話..誰認真防守會很差的?
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2022-01-30T14:13
說歐拉有時會被低估他的防守原因可能是因為他那個
時代有好幾個防守強大的內線跟他競爭dpoy的關係吧,
像木桶伯跟上將等等,所以歐拉只有拿到兩次dpoy,
其他時候他都是防守一二陣居多,不過我個人最近看法
是上將其實也是非常強的防守者,真正最被人低估的
防守者應該是上將,他其實是被歐拉打爆跟歐肥相關
傳言的受害者
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2022-01-31T11:36
這作者對上將的看法跟我類似,只是他認為歐拉是最被
低估,我倒認為是上將被低估了,歐拉還算容易被排進
歷史防守前十,但是上將就很少人提了
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2022-01-30T14:13
覺得Kidd跟可愛的排名反了吧 不過看看就好
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2022-01-31T11:36
應該是看累積數據排的

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