德軟對這支球隊造成的發展問題 - 洛杉磯湖人 Los Angeles Lakers

By Irma
at 2022-12-30T12:57
at 2022-12-30T12:57
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本篇主旨是討論我們三控衛 龜 軟 貝
嫩我直接放棄.......
延伸原來的題目,用NETRTG去分析球員的適合性,
我相信任何的數據都有其意義和盲點,但既然要採用這個數據,
就要相信他,以下都讓數據說話,這篇不去討論這數據的意義.
因為原PO的說法是龜軟貝合體很恐怖,確實-46.7很恐怖,
但龜軟貝合體很恐怖 => 軟很恐怖 要砍軟的時間 這個說法成立嗎?
以下數據都在NBA官網,我搜尋是2 Player Lineups,
另外不確定有無包含昨天那場,官網何時更新我不確定,但差一場應該影響不大.
https://reurl.cc/NGoONk
先說上場時間,其實三人時間都差不多,但軟的時間有增加的趨勢
龜 28.1
軟 27.2
貝 27.0
以下人員排序用場均時間列出
龜 軟 貝
LBJ -0.2 +3.2 -2.9
AD +1.5 +0.9 -1.3
草 -6.6 -11.9 -7.0
AR +1.2 +2.6 -0.1
TBJ -4.8 +1.6 -0.4
老大 +0.2 -5.8 -14.6
Gab +3.8 -8.4 -6.3
Max -15.1 +2.0 -17.3
龜 -12.1 -6.5
軟 -12.1 -11.1
貝 -6.5 -11.1
龜軟貝 -46.7
從兩人組合的NETRTG來看,確實如原PO所說,軟和草明顯不搭,
但是要讓草回先發2號,不是只有砍軟時間這招,砍貝時間也進入討論.
雖然軟和草不搭,但是若是比較其他人的組合,則貝是明顯最慘的.
其中最重要的AD LBJ AR都是貝墊底.
先討論軟貝,
砍軟時間可以讓草(還有一個Gab)變好,
但是砍貝可以讓LBJ+AD+AR+TBJ+老大+Max 變好.
看你怎麼選.
然後出乎意料的結果,很多人說龜眉可以連線,但是軟眉無法配合,
從數據上來看,搭配眉確實龜比軟好,但也就+1.5和+0.9的差距,其實也沒很大,
況且龜上場就是提速,和AD又一堆空中接力,其實這些都會造成AD的耗損和傷病風險.
換句話說,和眉很配的龜,全力操眉的龜,只比網友說的不能搭的軟好0.6.
然後再提到養人,AR時間已經很夠了就不討論,
討論原PO提到的 草 TBJ Max,
在這三個之中,軟草最不配,但Max和TBJ又和軟最好.
並沒有軟最不搭其他人的狀況.
再說到球隊定位 龜軟是持球者 貝偏3D副控,
我會朝向把草 TBJ Max當3D養,那龜的組織最好 軟次之,
假如是培養的角度看,要砍時間第一個也是砍貝,除非你想練這些人的持球.
然後說到年紀和合約,這三個明年都沒合約
龜 34 鳥權
軟 29 底薪無鳥權
貝 34 鳥權
明年誰會留下來這要問佩總.
我重點也不是要說軟很棒,我的論點一直都是LBJ老了,不能長期控球,
所以場上一定要擺一個控球,詹到底能不能控球這點很難證實,我是傾向只能短時間.
就如大家說的,軟很愛在那邊蝦雞巴裝忙,然後防守很爛,但是數據卻顯示他和詹最配,
另外數據呈現不出來,但相信大部分人能認同,軟最能幫詹調配體力,
若你認同這點,那就是蝦雞巴忙的軟,不只能幫詹調配體力,還搭詹最有效率
然後軟最不搭除了草就是龜貝,
我們恐怖的三小C3取2組合,最爛的都有軟,硬要說龜貝組合還比較能用,
三個同場就是自殺.
我的想法是,不是軟很棒,而是我們持球者就已經是最低限度的兩個,
要冰或是交易軟都行,但至少要再補一個控衛回來,去年的DJA至少有3也能考慮.
若是不交易,我的想法不是砍軟的時間,而是軟貝一起砍,
甚至用數據來看,貝DNP都行.
以下都是假設不交易,AD回來前我希望的配置.(假設DJ和嫩進桶)
老大 5
LBJ Gab 5 4
TBJ JTA 4 3
Max 2 3
AR 草 2
貝 1 2
龜 軟 1
貝真的要用就去配龜,然後龜28分 軟20分 兩人完全錯開.
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嫩我直接放棄.......
延伸原來的題目,用NETRTG去分析球員的適合性,
我相信任何的數據都有其意義和盲點,但既然要採用這個數據,
就要相信他,以下都讓數據說話,這篇不去討論這數據的意義.
因為原PO的說法是龜軟貝合體很恐怖,確實-46.7很恐怖,
但龜軟貝合體很恐怖 => 軟很恐怖 要砍軟的時間 這個說法成立嗎?
以下數據都在NBA官網,我搜尋是2 Player Lineups,
另外不確定有無包含昨天那場,官網何時更新我不確定,但差一場應該影響不大.
https://reurl.cc/NGoONk
先說上場時間,其實三人時間都差不多,但軟的時間有增加的趨勢
龜 28.1
軟 27.2
貝 27.0
以下人員排序用場均時間列出
龜 軟 貝
LBJ -0.2 +3.2 -2.9
AD +1.5 +0.9 -1.3
草 -6.6 -11.9 -7.0
AR +1.2 +2.6 -0.1
TBJ -4.8 +1.6 -0.4
老大 +0.2 -5.8 -14.6
Gab +3.8 -8.4 -6.3
Max -15.1 +2.0 -17.3
龜 -12.1 -6.5
軟 -12.1 -11.1
貝 -6.5 -11.1
龜軟貝 -46.7
從兩人組合的NETRTG來看,確實如原PO所說,軟和草明顯不搭,
但是要讓草回先發2號,不是只有砍軟時間這招,砍貝時間也進入討論.
雖然軟和草不搭,但是若是比較其他人的組合,則貝是明顯最慘的.
其中最重要的AD LBJ AR都是貝墊底.
先討論軟貝,
砍軟時間可以讓草(還有一個Gab)變好,
但是砍貝可以讓LBJ+AD+AR+TBJ+老大+Max 變好.
看你怎麼選.
然後出乎意料的結果,很多人說龜眉可以連線,但是軟眉無法配合,
從數據上來看,搭配眉確實龜比軟好,但也就+1.5和+0.9的差距,其實也沒很大,
況且龜上場就是提速,和AD又一堆空中接力,其實這些都會造成AD的耗損和傷病風險.
換句話說,和眉很配的龜,全力操眉的龜,只比網友說的不能搭的軟好0.6.
然後再提到養人,AR時間已經很夠了就不討論,
討論原PO提到的 草 TBJ Max,
在這三個之中,軟草最不配,但Max和TBJ又和軟最好.
並沒有軟最不搭其他人的狀況.
再說到球隊定位 龜軟是持球者 貝偏3D副控,
我會朝向把草 TBJ Max當3D養,那龜的組織最好 軟次之,
假如是培養的角度看,要砍時間第一個也是砍貝,除非你想練這些人的持球.
然後說到年紀和合約,這三個明年都沒合約
龜 34 鳥權
軟 29 底薪無鳥權
貝 34 鳥權
明年誰會留下來這要問佩總.
我重點也不是要說軟很棒,我的論點一直都是LBJ老了,不能長期控球,
所以場上一定要擺一個控球,詹到底能不能控球這點很難證實,我是傾向只能短時間.
就如大家說的,軟很愛在那邊蝦雞巴裝忙,然後防守很爛,但是數據卻顯示他和詹最配,
另外數據呈現不出來,但相信大部分人能認同,軟最能幫詹調配體力,
若你認同這點,那就是蝦雞巴忙的軟,不只能幫詹調配體力,還搭詹最有效率
然後軟最不搭除了草就是龜貝,
我們恐怖的三小C3取2組合,最爛的都有軟,硬要說龜貝組合還比較能用,
三個同場就是自殺.
我的想法是,不是軟很棒,而是我們持球者就已經是最低限度的兩個,
要冰或是交易軟都行,但至少要再補一個控衛回來,去年的DJA至少有3也能考慮.
若是不交易,我的想法不是砍軟的時間,而是軟貝一起砍,
甚至用數據來看,貝DNP都行.
以下都是假設不交易,AD回來前我希望的配置.(假設DJ和嫩進桶)
老大 5
LBJ Gab 5 4
TBJ JTA 4 3
Max 2 3
AR 草 2
貝 1 2
龜 軟 1
貝真的要用就去配龜,然後龜28分 軟20分 兩人完全錯開.
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