太陽老闆被指控(6) - NBA

Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2021-11-17T11:22

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32440987/phoenix-suns-robert-sarver-allegations-racism-misogyny

AFTER A GAME in the 2018-19 season, Sarver fumed that rookie center Deandre Ayton -- the 2018 No. 1 pick -- had failed to record a block or a foul. Sarver slammed a stat sheet on the table in front of assistant coach Corliss Williamson, who had been working with Ayton.

一場18-19賽季的賽後,沙佛為他們的新秀中鋒發怒 - 他們18年的狀元 - Ayton ,因為錯誤的記載火鍋與犯規次數。沙佛在助理教練Williamson面前憤怒的敲打桌上的數據報告.

因為Ayton沒人在比賽中留下火鍋或是犯規的紀錄,

他認為負責Ayton的這位助理教練並沒有完成到他的職責
(感謝27樓更正)



"In all my years, that's the first time I've ever seen an owner come in there and act like that with the coaching staff," Williamson said.

「在我的生涯第一次看到老闆在教練面前做這種事。」Williamson說



Williamson was a 6-foot-7, 245-pound former NBA champion with the Detroit Pistons whose NBA nickname was "The Big Nasty." Williamson, who grew up in Arkansas, said an older, white male owner aggressively confronting him -- a Black man from the South -- carried racial connotations for him.
"That's exactly where my mind went," Williamson told ESPN.

Williamson 6-7有245磅,是活塞的冠軍成員。「大惡棍」是他的外號。對於在阿肯色州長大的他來說,一位白人老闆這樣與黑人員工- 一位來自南方的黑人 - 對峙,就是有種族歧視的意思 。Williamson對ESPN說「我就是這麼覺得的。」




He sought out Sarver in the subsequent days, including visiting his office. Eventually, the two spoke briefly, and the tension subsided.

幾天後他找到沙佛,像是拜訪了沙佛的辦公室,他們透過簡單的交談
,而氣氛也逐漸緩和。

"I really wanted to make sure he didn't do something like that to someone else who didn't have a cooler head," Williamson said.

我找他談話的原因,是因為我希望他別對其他無法保持冷靜的人做同樣的事。Williamson說


"That's why I went looking for him."
It was far from the first time members of the coaching staff felt like Sarver had marginalized them. Watson remembers Sarver drawing up plays that didn't exist in the locker room. "He was asking [players] to set up a pick-and-roll in the middle of the paint. How is that even possible with three seconds and no spacing?"

這已經不是沙佛第一次對教練指手畫腳。他曾在休息室想佈置戰術,像是在油漆區打擋拆卻忽視籃下三秒。



On March 30, 2019, the Suns were home against a short-handed Memphis Grizzlies team. Center Richaun Holmes was out due to a migraine and Ayton had rolled his ankle late in the third quarter. In their absence, Grizzlies center Jonas Valanciunas dominated, scoring 14 of his 34 points in a decisive fourth quarter for a 120-115 Memphis win. The loss dropped the Suns to 17-60.

19年3月30 ,一場迎戰因為傷兵面臨人手不足灰熊的比賽中。Richaun Holmes因傷缺陣,而Ayton在第三節傷了腳踝 ,並讓Valanciunas34分導致120-115輸給灰熊 ,而當時是太陽第60敗

(其實我找了當時的game log
,看不出來灰熊哪裡short-handed了
康利打了快38分鐘,甚至CP25都打了6分鐘 , 但的確因為Ayton缺陣導致第四節被灰熊打爛 )

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201903300PHO.html

Immediately after the game, according to staffers, Sarver marched into the coaches locker room and unloaded, berating head coach Igor Kokoskov and his assistants, demanding answers as to why they didn't "make any adjustments" to stop the burly Grizzlies center.

賽後沙佛衝進休息室,質問教練Igor與他的團隊,為什麼沒有做任何調度來阻止灰熊的中鋒在場上予取予求。


Veteran assistant Joe Prunty, who did not respond to a request for comment, spoke up, saying the short-handed Suns had made several in-game adjustments -- fronting Valanciunas, doubling him on the catch, explaining other basketball minutiae.

資深教練Joe回覆了沙佛,他們在人手不夠的情況做了幾種調度,像是在他接球時包夾他 ,並解釋了相關細節。

"Joe starts throwing all the s--- at him, [and] the guy has no idea what any of that means," said one former coach, details that others in the room confirmed. Sarver, livid, marched toward the door and screamed "No adjustments!" on his way out.

「Joe開始把全部狗屎扔向他,而沙佛卻毫無概念」在場的教練說。

而沙佛臉色鐵青的走出去,並嚷嚷著「毫無作為」



The next month, Kokoskov, who declined to comment, and his assistants, less than a year into their tenure in Phoenix, were fired.

接下來不到一個月,執教不到一年的Igor與他的團隊就被開除了

One former longtime staffer said similar outbursts happened so often that he lost count. "He was constantly meddling and trying to coach himself or go into the coaches' office and start drawing X's and O's on the board at halftime and tell them they need to do this, they need to do that."

一位資深員工說,這已經不是第一次了,沙佛常常想要指導教練組,或是在終場試圖畫O或X表達戰術,並告訴他們要這樣做。

In another instance that season, Sarver went into the training room to talk X's and O's with rookie guard Elie Okobo. Veteran guard Jamal Crawford left the room.
"He actually got up off the table and walked out of the room and said, 'I can't f---ing listen to this s---. I gotta get out of here,'" a second former staffer said. The former longtime staffer in the room confirmed the scene to ESPN. Crawford declined to comment.

另一個例子是沙佛與新秀畫O X討論戰術時,老將Jamal Crawford離開了房間

「事實上離開了桌子,並走出房間 還說著我不想聽這些狗屎。」一位工作人員說,並得到一位資深員工證明。而Crawford拒絕發表評論



One former Suns basketball operations staffer who interacted with Sarver regularly said he still deals with stress and anxiety from Sarver's verbal abuse and late-night phone calls -- to the point that the panic he felt still strikes anytime the phone rings late in the evenings. "I never felt comfortable there," the staffer said. "And I was there for a long time. ... I didn't even get fired. If that gives you any context -- I left on my own. There's no reason to be miserable every day anymore."

一位需要常與沙佛溝通的員工說,他需要面對來自沙佛的謾罵與深夜來電帶來的壓力。我從未在職場感到舒適,我甚至是自己離職的。因為沒有理由讓自己每天深陷水深火熱中



Sarver instituted unusual and frequent demands, former coaches and basketball operations staffers said, and during part of that 2018-19 season he told Kokoskov's staff that they shouldn't hold pens, papers, notebooks or anything in their hands on the sideline. They had to stand and cheer.

前教練說,沙佛以不尋常的頻率突出不合理的要求。18-19賽季,他告訴Igor與他的團隊不能在場邊拿紙筆或任何東西。他們被要求不得不起立歡呼。

ESPN asked Sarver about his interactions with the team; the questions went unaddressed.
"It was a clown show," said one former basketball operations staffer. "Guys are jumping up and down looking ridiculous, and I'm getting texts from coaches around the league, like, 'What are you guys doing?'" Said another former basketball operations staffer, "It becomes more of a circus and, 'Let's stand up and clap and appease Robert as opposed to doing what our job actually is, which is trying to coach the basketball game.'" One clip of the coaching staff failing to fist-bump properly went viral.

「他把我們當小丑」

沙佛希望教練如他所想的表演

網路上流傳一段尷尬的擊拳影片

https://twitter.com/jasminelwatkins/status/1066448057888374784?s=21

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Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2021-11-17T19:42
講真的 有沒有什麼新進度? 像是調查或是提告?
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2021-11-18T04:02
要把黑人當寶一樣疼 工作有疏失不能罵不然就是歧視
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2021-11-18T12:21
看來沒有一擊斃命的證據,只好講一堆試圖以量取勝
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2021-11-18T07:55
看完這系列只記得蛋毛
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2021-11-18T16:15
這種調查進度都會拖很久
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2021-11-18T07:55
除非有實質證據 不然這種單方面指控很難讓他下台
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2021-11-18T16:15
記錯不能不爽 BLM zzz
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2021-11-18T07:55
這助教根本玻璃心,自己犯錯被罵也上綱成歧視
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2021-11-18T16:15
你跟我對峙就是在歧視我
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2021-11-18T07:55
沒料
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2021-11-18T16:15
你覺得沙佛亂發脾氣就算了 上綱到歧視幹嘛
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2021-11-18T07:55
就是場內外喜歡介入球隊操作的老闆,有沒有更猛的
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2021-11-18T16:15
笑死 這助教最好別去小牛工作
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2021-11-18T07:55
對峙就是種族歧視 XD
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2021-11-18T16:15
其實對太陽的發展還是會有差 這種指控多的話
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2021-11-18T07:55
助教犯錯玻璃心還扯到歧視zzz
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2021-11-18T16:15
記錄不都可以賽後修正的?
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-11-18T07:55
可是這篇的指控也只是他喜歡外行管內行加上愛罵髒話吧,上一篇性騷擾倒是比較有模樣
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2021-11-18T16:15
職場上誰不會罵人啊 神經病 有本事尼哥們自創聯盟吧
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2021-11-18T07:55
第一段的 failed to record a block or a foul.應該指的是Ayton沒有在場上留下任何火鍋或犯規的紀錄,而不是助教紀錄錯誤。沙佛這裡指責這個助教是因為這個助教主要負責Ayton的發展養成,結果還讓Ayton打出這種數據。不過我覺得這是Ayton自己的問題就是了。
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2021-11-18T16:15
看到目前為止就是沙佛是個噁男老害慣老闆,這以前也不是不知道,只是現在細節更多。真的要他下台要有更有料的指控
George avatar
By George
at 2021-11-18T07:55
第一段 我看了只覺得 這不是很正常嗎?(教練團有疏失的話)
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2021-11-18T16:15
樓上這個解釋的話 沙佛罵也是正常啊
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2021-11-18T07:55
外行管內行這倒是很明顯 除了第一段以外基本上都是在說他外行
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2021-11-18T16:15
不太正常 然後畫戰術那段其實也蠻扯的
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2021-11-18T07:55
雖然還不致於像施特林那麼嚴重
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2021-11-18T16:15
這個敘述看起來助教超玻璃心欸…
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2021-11-18T07:55
所以是指控太陽老闆是慣老闆? 這不用指控都知道吧..
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2021-11-18T16:15
就是外行管內行,還管得理直氣壯,加上每個人的文化背景不同,就容易產生一些族群上的摩擦,第一段的就是這樣
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2021-11-18T07:55
一個年長、不專業的白人老闆把專業的黑人職員叫到辦公室當狗罵,尤其這個黑人員工來自南方,過去的奴隸州,很容易挑動敏感神經
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2021-11-18T16:15
阿你把色種拿掉 這種到底有啥問題
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2021-11-18T07:55
就慣老闆特徵的極致
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2021-11-18T16:15
但是還是不足以讓他下台T__T
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2021-11-18T07:55
當然有問題,就慣老闆到極點,外行管內行還沒問題嗎?膚色只是讓這個問題加劇而已
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2021-11-18T16:15
對,重點就是現在爆料的這些看起來都不足以換老闆,只有之前那篇權勢性騷擾比較有可能
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2021-11-18T07:55
外行管內行也不是只有太陽有這情形我騎之前大家也都抱怨過 笑過 但鄉民嘴歸嘴 老闆還是當他的老闆
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2021-11-18T16:15
人手不足是太陽人手不足
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2021-11-18T07:55
因為這個助教任務是長人教練養Ayton的,Ayton沒犯規+火鍋=Sarver認為防守差才7pupu(新人年的Ayton防守跟他大學評價一樣恍神不出力)
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2021-11-18T16:15
看起來只有性騷擾比較有效 其他都是道德綁架
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2021-11-18T07:55
不過原文這樣寫的確是講灰熊人手不足,蠻怪的
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2021-11-18T16:15
開除kokos真的是超爛的決定 ,雖然後來教練找來cp3
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2021-11-18T07:55
新的發展就TMZ挖出一個影片是殺佛在公開場合開黃腔(內容很噁但主辦人認為是他老公的喜喪還好)+殺佛老婆寄信給被調查者說全家人生被他們毀掉+NBA律師團調查到一個階段
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2021-11-18T16:15
超玻璃心 對峙就是你歧視zzzz
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2021-11-18T07:55
以後只要膚色不對 老闆就不能罵員工
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-11-18T16:15
爆料方應該準備了不少牌慢慢打吧
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2021-11-18T07:55
真的不能怪別人想支持大老闆了
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2021-11-18T16:15
跟台灣一樣出一張對方回擊再丟下一張打臉
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-11-18T07:55
謝謝27樓更正
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2021-11-18T16:15
一位白人老闆這樣與黑人員工對峙,就是有種族歧視的意思。Williamson對ESPN說「我就是這麼覺得的。」
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2021-11-18T07:55
玻璃心到爆
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2021-11-18T16:15
簡單說花了一大堆篇幅說他是慣老闆,問題是這根本不是新聞吧....
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2021-11-18T07:55
看來看去就是個慣到不行的老闆,然後認為自己很專業但是這樣還是捅不死殺佛啊
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2021-11-18T16:15
聽起來就只是是個討厭的老闆,但是為什麼什麼都要扯到種族歧視
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2021-11-18T07:55
我犯錯老闆罵我就是歧視?到底誰才是歧視?
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2021-11-18T16:15
第一段就翻譯錯了,一堆人對著錯誤的翻譯罵助教玻璃心zzz
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2021-11-18T07:55
噗…那亞洲人不就天天歧視亞洲人
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2021-11-18T16:15
這個原po大多這樣啊,不是很有了解卻很愛po一大堆一知半解的文,翻譯出問題推文指正也沒在改的,大家就繼續照著錯誤的內容罵黑人玻璃心
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2021-11-18T07:55
看起來是雞掰老板 但完全看不出歧視
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2021-11-18T16:15
助教一樣玻璃心啊,負責ayton養成,結果捍衛禁區的狀元整場沒犯規跟火鍋……養成明顯有問題,不能罵助教?
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2021-11-18T07:55
現在看來蛋毛最嚴重
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2021-11-18T16:15
他是老板 外行管內行有問題也不能讓他下台啊 又不是經理人
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2021-11-18T07:55
陽迷多希望殺佛out你們知道嗎?這種不痛不癢的指控,知道陽迷多失望嗎……
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2021-11-14T11:27
助教團隊是由總教練跟總經理組成,要罵助教也應該是總教練,頂多是球隊總經理去罵,外行的資方老闆插什麼嘴。平常鄉民靠北外行管內行,沙佛外行管內行就都沒問題了?
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2021-11-14T19:47
啊這種簡單數據紀錄的事情能搞砸也不簡單吧
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2021-11-15T04:07
重點是這些內容都不能讓沙佛下台,還講那麼多幹嘛,歹戲拖棚陽迷很難過的知道嗎,陽迷多希望一刀斃命的證據趕快出來
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2021-11-15T12:27
外行管內行又怎樣喔?跟種族歧視啥關係?就是玻璃心啊
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2021-11-15T20:46
不是數據記錄.....
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2021-11-16T05:06
聯盟哪天跟前快艇老闆一樣大動作那才是重磅新聞了吧
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2021-11-16T13:26
? 現在這一鬧到底鬧出了啥...
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2021-11-16T21:46
老闆必須精通會計 設計 行銷 技術...全部業務,不然不能罵員工 罵了就是外行管內行?
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2021-11-17T06:06
第一件事就是膚色不正確造成的,不然老闆看到員工績效有問題抓去辦公室罵,這個有到很嚴重?
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2021-11-17T14:26
笑死,老闆不能要求教練?這啥小黑人特權
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2021-11-17T22:46
s92大 沒人說外行管內行完全沒問題啊?但是在要鬥沙佛下台的論點上 外行管內行 完全不是任何能造成他下台的理由
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2021-11-18T07:06
外行管內行只能說他慣老闆、內部沒有充分授權
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2021-11-18T15:25
球隊他的,他要怎麼管理,只要沒違法都他的事
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2021-11-18T07:55
你黑人罵不得就自己滾去不會被罵的球隊很好
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2021-11-18T16:15
一堆像黑函的內容然後又沒一槍斃命的事證,這個系列真的只會讓人對平權自助餐覺得更煩而已
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2021-11-18T07:55
不爽外行管內行你就把球隊買下來啊,笑死
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2021-11-18T16:15
結果對籃球內行對管理外行會比較行嗎?
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2021-11-18T07:55
聽說最內行的老闆在黃蜂隊 打進總決了嗎內行老闆管內行也沒有比較好啊
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2021-11-18T16:15
上次有老闆因為種族歧視被迫賣球隊就是賣給退休沒多久的超級富豪這次是誰?聽說貝佐斯退休還不到一年…
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2021-11-18T07:55
沒啦 第一段原po翻錯了
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By Edwina
at 2021-11-18T16:15
助教根本沒做錯任何事 只是Ayton在某一場比賽沒火鍋沒犯規Sarver就覺得教練團養壞了笑死 真的是慣老闆的極致
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By Zora
at 2021-11-18T07:55
他莫名其妙被怒噴一頓這樣指控其實還好啦只是也不足以讓Sarver下台
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By Hamiltion
at 2021-11-18T16:15
老闆管理自己的資產要被說外行管內行 XD
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By Dinah
at 2021-11-18T07:55
嗯啊 你不相信他們的專業那你老闆請他們來幹嘛
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By Selena
at 2021-11-18T16:15
所有球隊總管都嘛希望老闆少插手就好
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By Liam
at 2021-11-18T07:55
Sarver是慣老闆和種族歧視是兩回事,老是無限上綱
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By Emma
at 2021-11-18T16:15
硬要扯種族歧視很怪吧
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By Callum
at 2021-11-18T07:55
反正他講那在他家鄉是種族歧視給他說啊 外界自有公評 只是想表達是Sarver很靠北不是助教做錯事活該被罵
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By Tracy
at 2021-11-18T16:15
雇員工後就不准要求了 不然就是不相信專業 lol
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By Margaret
at 2021-11-18T07:55
隨便指控別人種族歧視叫還好 鄉民實在讓人開眼界XD
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By Doris
at 2021-11-18T16:15
爛老闆,不過沒想到他對球隊這麼投入
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By Mary
at 2021-11-18T07:55
就是一位毛很多的老闆

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By Elvira
at 2021-11-17T11:01
NBA Regular Season 2021-22 San Antonio Spurs vs Los Angeles Clippers 比賽將於稍後 11:30 開始。 先發位置、名單: 馬刺隊 PG D. Murray SG Derrick White SF D. McDermott PF ...

勇士對籃網及公牛兩戰合計勝分44

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By John
at 2021-11-17T11:00
勇士對籃網及公牛兩戰合計勝分44 The Warriors have beaten the Nets and the Bulls by 44 points in the last 5 days. https://i.imgur.com/r8d08iC.jpg https://reurl.cc/95qGkd ...

七六人 @ 爵士

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By Quintina
at 2021-11-17T10:30
NBA Regular Season 2021-22 Philadelphia 76ers vs Utah Jazz 比賽將於稍後 11:00 開始。 先發位置、名單: 七六人隊 PG Tyrese Maxey SG Seth Curry SF Fulkan Korkmaz PF Tobias ...

湖人裁掉Sekou Doumbouya

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By Zora
at 2021-11-17T10:14
The Lakers are waiving Sekou Doumbouya and signing forward Chaundee Brown of N BA G League South Bay on a two-way contract. Doumbouya is currently rehabbin ...

上週收視整理(11/8-11/13)

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By Leila
at 2021-11-17T09:51
上週收視整理(11/8-11/13) 當天若有其他北美四大運動賽事 會一併放進來 11/8(一) https://reurl.cc/n525AX 收視人口 電視台 NFL Bears – Steelers 12.1 million ES ...