大谷WAR值升上美聯第二名 - 棒球

By Charlotte
at 2022-07-01T08:21

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根據Jeff Passan的推特，過去三個禮拜大谷的WAR上升了2.5

Over the last three weeks, Shohei Ohtani has put up 2.5 Wins Above Replacement.
He has been the single best pitcher in baseball and the 15th-most-productive off
ensive player.

So many take for granted what he's doing. Don't. This is a once-in-a-lifetime sh
ow. Relish greatness.

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1542487051928588289

其他評語沒意見，不過覺得the single best pitcher in baseball 有點太浮誇了XD

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他回文列出了fWAR美聯前五名，大谷與另外兩人並列第二

MVP voting should take into account many, many more things than Wins Above Repla
cement. But they do offer an interesting primer. And the American League right n
ow is a doozy. Per @fangraphs:

Rafael Devers: 4.1
Aaron Judge: 4.0
Shohei Ohtani: 4.0
Mike Trout: 4.0
Jose Ramirez: 3.9

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1542489899873583109

他也說MVP投票考慮的東西很多，不只是看WAR，但WAR提供了有趣的切入點

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By Belly
at 2022-06-26T18:46

笑死

By Mason
at 2022-07-01T16:00

只要兩端不失衡就沒審美疲勞的問題

By Ursula
at 2022-06-26T18:46

審美疲勞..那就每年換一個MVP.100年應該有100位不同MVP
不然是在疲勞個QQ

By Puput
at 2022-07-01T16:00

希望大谷趕緊達到10勝，然後在催打擊，印象今年全壘打的速
度應該是去年的一半，勝投數好像差不多，但今年快一些？

By Carolina Franco
at 2022-06-26T18:46

雙標才是真相...

By Olivia
at 2022-07-01T16:00

勝投差多了..同時間去年3勝今年7勝

By Donna
at 2022-06-26T18:46

大谷去年表現太強，所以導致好多人只想拿去年來跟大谷自己
比，不過今年的大谷表現哪能說沒競爭力..是去年太強，誰
能比= =

By Barb Cronin
at 2022-07-01T16:00

喔喔，那就是投打步調對換了@@

By Mia
at 2022-06-26T18:46

對阿...OPS+141(去年158) ERA+147(去年141)

By Xanthe
at 2022-07-01T16:00

是大谷強得讓人忘記二刀流有多難 Babe Ruth後第一人欸

By Edward Lewis
at 2022-06-26T18:46

現在有競爭力了拉最近太瘋狂
前陣子我認為沒競爭力現在幾乎領先MVP榜了

By Damian
at 2022-07-01T16:00

那句話是說這3星期，他這3星期26.2局只失1分

By Victoria
at 2022-06-26T18:46

1勝以上30轟，每沒人達成過的歷史紀錄，全壘大50+很多人
打過，法官要衝60+才有得拼
10勝

By William
at 2022-07-01T16:00

36K6BB 對手BA 0.152 對手OPS 0.376
說他是這3星期大聯盟最佳投手應該不為過

By Sarah
at 2022-06-26T18:46

如果大谷10勝200k30轟起跳，那法官至少要65-70轟了吧，附
加帶隊拿冠軍..

By Annie
at 2022-07-01T16:00

FanDuel剛剛更新的odds https://i.imgur.com/SklEbYi.jpg

By Linda
at 2022-06-26T18:46

更新得真快呵呵

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-07-01T16:00

MVP比的是貢獻度不是稀有度，現在有很多更好評估貢獻
度的工具，幾轟幾勝不太重要

By Olive
at 2022-06-26T18:46

原來是指這三個禮拜感謝
這樣就理解他為什麼會這麼說了

By Vanessa
at 2022-07-01T16:00

法官最近烙賽第一坐不穩了

By Ophelia
at 2022-06-26T18:46

非常接近的說..對比前幾個禮拜@@

By Una
at 2022-07-01T16:00

今天又0-3 要上去打第4次惹

By Genevieve
at 2022-06-26T18:46

感覺還是大谷啦

By Kama
at 2022-07-01T16:00

大谷去年明星賽後軟很多今年比較慢熱但是狀況保持不錯

By Elma
at 2022-06-26T18:46

不過一切都難說拉球季才過一半= =

By Heather
at 2022-07-01T16:00

"目前"有看到的Sportsbook全都是Judge領先當然球季還早

By Freda
at 2022-06-26T18:46

健康才是最關鍵

By Anonymous
at 2022-07-01T16:00

今年大谷在yt的流量一樣高檔，但也是隨著他表現的好壞呈現
..

By Agnes
at 2022-06-26T18:46

領先群還有一些受傷了..健康打完整季最重要

By Dorothy
at 2022-07-01T16:00

大谷是最近把成績打起來追到MVP領先群，不然前陣子的
成績本來就離領先群有距離

By Kyle
at 2022-06-26T18:46

單看數據去年三冠王也是很優但是棒球記者誰不投大谷？
今年也會遇到同樣狀況

By Franklin
at 2022-07-01T16:00

下一次遇到洋基不知何時，希望能更證明自己

By Michael
at 2022-06-26T18:46

去年哪來的三冠王

By Gilbert
at 2022-07-01T16:00

球季還有一半, 現在季中我投大谷

By Margaret
at 2022-06-26T18:46

去年小葛war輸大谷超過2，沒啥好討論的

By Joseph
at 2022-07-01T16:00

去年谷葛根本不是靠大谷特殊性贏的
光貢獻度就車過去了

By Dorothy
at 2022-06-26T18:46

去年有三冠王？

By Caitlin
at 2022-07-01T16:00

推 birdyman: 單看數據去年三冠王也是很優誰?

By Skylar Davis
at 2022-06-26T18:46

幾個星期前，照比例算到季末是大谷war會輸超過2，狀況
其實不太一樣

By Cara
at 2022-07-01T16:00

WAR能參考的話 Trout就被Cabrera偷走兩座MVP

By Puput
at 2022-06-26T18:46

去年三冠王是誰？ Djokovic？

By Xanthe
at 2022-07-01T16:00

去年三冠王是誰？？

By Eden
at 2022-06-26T18:46

基本上還是會以war為主啦

By Wallis
at 2022-07-01T16:00

太神了

By Edwina
at 2022-06-26T18:46

去年小葛一些人在捧可是以去年大谷的成績小葛起碼得打

By Thomas
at 2022-07-01T16:00

60轟才有機會上台比而且高機率會輸大谷今年10W40H那一

By Daph Bay
at 2022-06-26T18:46

去年根本沒啥好討論高階數據差這麼遠

By Audriana
at 2022-07-01T16:00

繼續維持最近的表現感覺滿有機會拿MVP

By Yedda
at 2022-06-26T18:46

樣不用討論了法官先打個60+再來談 10/30 VS 50+ 應該也
是大谷拿下
如果來個15/40 呵呵比賽結束

By Heather
at 2022-07-01T16:00

大谷10勝200k30轟我是覺得可以直接頒獎了，除非法官刷
個80轟吧

By Oliver
at 2022-06-26T18:46

15勝 200K 40HR

By Andrew
at 2022-07-01T16:00

天使有兩個MVP 應該穩了.....吧

By Caitlin
at 2022-06-26T18:46

就跟職業球員求婚一定成功一樣穩

By Ophelia
at 2022-07-01T16:00

一直把審美疲勞新鮮感問題拿出來講真的很無聊

By Jessica
at 2022-06-26T18:46

就算投票評審不看war值，那我們就講投打兩端不會太進階的數
值

By Zenobia
at 2022-07-01T16:00

去年大谷OPS美聯第二，全壘打美聯第三

By Hamiltion
at 2022-06-26T18:46

一隊兩個WAR排名前二的戰績應該很好吧!!

By Quanna
at 2022-07-01T16:00

審美疲勞這真的爛理由數據擺在那了難道要選個比較差的
？

By Franklin
at 2022-06-26T18:46

雖然仍輸小葛，但差距不大，這樣的差距用去年132局的投球貢獻
就足以補足而且超前了

By Rae
at 2022-07-01T16:00

這就像是小葛理科可以考90，但文科完全沒輒；大谷理科可以考8
5，文科可以考70。你覺得誰比較會念書？

By Kama
at 2022-06-26T18:46

講得好像就只有二刀流會有審美疲勞一樣XD

By William
at 2022-07-01T16:00

史帝芬霍金數學物理考100其他0分台大隨便挑個學生

By Jake
at 2022-06-26T18:46

都屌打史蒂芬霍金

By Anonymous
at 2022-07-01T16:00

abc12812歪樓喔

By Michael
at 2022-06-26T18:46

15勝30轟應該就穩了

By Damian
at 2022-07-01T16:00

別人都只有一個人大谷+翔平怎麼輸

By Skylar Davis
at 2022-06-26T18:46

真有審美疲勞的話19年賽揚就會是cole而不是早就拿過的v中

By Elma
at 2022-07-01T16:00

笑死 abc看得懂自己在打啥嗎

By Jake
at 2022-06-26T18:46

15勝是近幾年大指標吧，這樣連CY都可能了

By Michael
at 2022-07-01T16:00

也不會有bb爺mvp四連霸或maddux,巨怪賽揚四連霸這種事
推 laihom0808: 15勝是近幾年大指標吧誰說的

By Wallis
at 2022-06-26T18:46

abc在說屌打(物理)吧

By Kyle
at 2022-07-01T16:00

CY很難局數太少 180局都被一直酸了

By Lucy
at 2022-06-26T18:46

不要在賽揚了那不是大谷迷今年會想要的東西
再

By Todd Johnson
at 2022-07-01T16:00

https://imgur.com/bU4Q0vv
BR版的WAR，大谷在美聯就輸大哥而以

By Michael
at 2022-06-26T18:46

笑死太強了

By Kristin
at 2022-07-01T16:00

今年沒人摸尖谷啊

By Andy
at 2022-06-26T18:46

去年被摸尖谷後的14場比賽就扛了12發 OPS從.969變成1.0
70 超誇張

By Eartha
at 2022-07-01T16:00

今年洋基是破天荒的好戰績這對記者投票肯定是大加分

By Elizabeth
at 2022-06-26T18:46

三冠王是納豆啦(誤)

By Ida
at 2022-07-01T16:00

現在勝投影響不高了啦

By Liam
at 2022-06-26T18:46

說abc歪樓的...你想想他釣魚王怎麼釣的以偏打全以
全打偏他根本數據高手

By Poppy
at 2022-07-01T16:00

應該是想先低調，後面再刷全壘打王，不然都被保送打個
鳥

By Eartha
at 2022-06-26T18:46

球隊戰績真的也會是重要的印象分數

By Quintina
at 2022-07-01T16:00

球隊戰績10幾20年前是拿MVP重要因素,現在未必

By Zora
at 2022-06-26T18:46

要類比霍金, 小葛一季恐怕要打個200支全壘打才夠吧.

By Andy
at 2022-07-01T16:00

快點10勝到手MVP就十拿九穩了~

By Oscar
at 2022-06-26T18:46

差別只在有沒有全票吧

大谷WAR值升上美聯第二名 - 棒球

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