在龜龜第四節有上的342分鐘，湖人合計-34 - NBA

By Skylar Davis
at 2022-01-21T16:05

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消息來源：https://twitter.com/SamQuinnCBS/status/1484209606905761792?s=20

內容：
Lakers with Russell Westbrook ON in fourth quarters: 342 minutes, -34

Lakers with Russell Westbrook OFF in fourth quarters: 198 minutes, +50

Benching Russ wasn't only necessary, it frankly came at least a month too
late.

CBS記者Sam Quinn針對了龜龜日前被冰凍提出了一些數據讓大家參考

當龜龜有上的第四節，合計342分鐘，湖人隊+-值合計為-34

當龜龜沒上的第四節，合計198分鐘，湖人隊+-值合計為+50

最後下了一句評語
(第四節)冷凍龜龜不只是必須的，而且早在一個月前就該這麼做了

同一篇下面這記者同時還留言了

With Russ on, fourth quarter LeBron is -27.

With Russ off, fourth quarter LeBron is +23.

That sort of distorts the overall numbers, but I think that paints the right
picture.

短評或心得：

數據會說話
第四節的詹皇也扛不住龜殼的重量............

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Tags: NBA

All Comments

By Blanche
at 2022-01-22T04:46

這真的很臭

By Hardy
at 2022-01-22T17:28

坐等看龜龜被臭多久會氣氛

By Brianna
at 2022-01-23T06:09

呵呵這個時候+-值突然就變超重要囉

By David
at 2022-01-23T18:50

+/-小教室今天有開喔?

By Xanthe
at 2022-01-24T07:31

所以昨天我哥不給上了阿

By Sierra Rose
at 2022-01-24T20:13

有人在臭

By Wallis
at 2022-01-25T08:54

進化成有毒的龜殼花了嗎

By Agnes
at 2022-01-25T21:35

這還真的很慘

By Ingrid
at 2022-01-26T10:16

正負值今日開張
前幾天不能看今天可以

By Barb Cronin
at 2022-01-26T00:42

咦正負值不是沒有參考價值的數據嗎

By Lucy
at 2022-01-26T13:23

有沒有統計詹不在場的+-呢

By Todd Johnson
at 2022-01-26T00:42

開不開都馬酸酸再講阿這數值就不是唯一標準阿....

By Una
at 2022-01-26T13:23

大家開臭我大龜龜了484?

By Kristin
at 2022-01-26T00:42

看其他進階數據龜也差不多爛

By Ingrid
at 2022-01-26T13:23

沒有龜 LBJ直接+50

By Rosalind
at 2022-01-26T00:42

年輕的LBJ才扛的住，現在真的看得出沒力了

By Hamiltion
at 2022-01-26T13:23

需要批評的時候可以看XD

By Mason
at 2022-01-26T00:42

姆斯守備看進階數據大多正的這點我覺得很奇怪
明明場上看起來就很雷

By Mason
at 2022-01-26T13:23

反正他該先習慣關鍵時刻被冰了，等AD回來他就更上不
了詹眉龜無法擺一起

By Bennie
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜龜被圍起來打.....

By Frederic
at 2022-01-26T13:23

你豪菜鳥年是不是有得到幾百件牛仔褲？
乾回錯篇

By Frederic
at 2022-01-26T00:42

又...又是龜的錯

By Ida
at 2022-01-26T13:23

推

By Selena
at 2022-01-26T00:42

就當作自己是去年的德軟吧呵呵

By Quanna
at 2022-01-26T13:23

正負值小教室開張

By Frederica
at 2022-01-26T00:42

他就比賽越緊張越會做些奇特的事

By James
at 2022-01-26T13:23

+-值就會吃場上的隊友，換誰來背龜殼也會-30好嗎

By Barb Cronin
at 2022-01-26T00:42

不要再打了

By Regina
at 2022-01-26T13:23

正負值準不準是依照當天對誰有利才能看

By Kyle
at 2022-01-26T00:42

自己選的活該==

By Margaret
at 2022-01-26T13:23

反正沒差 9100萬註定入手不差錢

By Damian
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜這樣都十幾年了現在才發現?

By Barb Cronin
at 2022-01-26T13:23

他還是去找自己單核的球隊吧

By Todd Johnson
at 2022-01-26T00:42

當初一片歡天喜地的情景真的是令人感慨
他幹嘛去找單核幫湖人解套哈哈

By Bennie
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜就只適合在爛隊刷數據

By Jake
at 2022-01-26T00:42

不過都這年紀了也沒有球隊會讓他當主將，龜的轉型不
可避

By Noah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

正負自助餐

By Puput
at 2022-01-26T00:42

真慘去洛城把自己搞臭

By Anthony
at 2022-01-26T13:23

當初的情投意合變成怨偶嘖嘖

By Queena
at 2022-01-26T00:42

第二行打成第四級

By Bethany
at 2022-01-26T13:23

LBJ防守長這樣好幾年了，都是站肘區禁區不動指揮協
防換位的防守指揮官角色，所以也在防守省力偷懶下
維持他的防守影響力

By Charlotte
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜龜不是KD這種隨插即用型的自己當初有想清楚嗎？
丟掉褲子 KCP 教訓德軟當初不是得償所望？

By Ursula
at 2022-01-26T13:23

可是龜酸從以前就很多了吧 XD

By Edward Lewis
at 2022-01-26T00:42

LBJ 自己也很差好嗎

By Faithe
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜龜打法又不是這一個月才這樣找他來之前不知道嗎

By Eden
at 2022-01-26T00:42

明明就知道還找他來
有看以前雷霆比賽他跟KD組合就會雷了

By Noah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜最好這樣十幾年，28歲前的體能巔峰龜是有過carr
y的時候，現在就老了又腦衝改不了

By Daniel
at 2022-01-26T00:42

喇叭詹扛了龜殼只能改吹嗩吶了

By Ula
at 2022-01-26T13:23

他下面那留言的如果套用其他湖人球員是不是也差不
多

By Kama
at 2022-01-26T00:42

LBJ生涯第四節常常神隱又刻意忽略膩

By Tracy
at 2022-01-26T13:23

尤其是第四節腦衝拔幹他就是神經刀體質啊

By Elma
at 2022-01-26T00:42

正確來說應該雷了3季左右，自從他過30歲體能退化以
後

By Hedda
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜還是能衝，只是球權跟戰術重心都不在他身上了，沒
給他打爽一點狀態出不來

By Joe
at 2022-01-26T00:42

現在是更退化但他在雷霆時就會腦衝拔幹了

By Thomas
at 2022-01-26T13:23

從簽4000萬後就開始退化了，連罰球都不行

By Carolina Franco
at 2022-01-26T00:42

一直嘴正負值多重要的開始懷疑正負值了被打臉要認
清阿==

By Jacky
at 2022-01-26T13:23

現在退化還拔球權換主軸當然就卡鏈子
錯了正負值是看日子決定重要性的
例如昨天就不重要

By Leila
at 2022-01-26T00:42

MVP年後各年PER分別為24=>21=>21=>19=>15
雷霆最後一年就開始退花了
化

By Candice
at 2022-01-26T13:23

看不看+-都酸自己唱雙簧，好不快樂～

By Belly
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜龜帶替補才是正解

By Madame
at 2022-01-26T13:23

沒三分準度的後衛根本不適合喇叭

By Hedwig
at 2022-01-26T00:42

喇叭詹也只顧著刷分

By Hedwig
at 2022-01-26T13:23

15是這季? 那PER看起來受到最大影響就是來湖人

By Poppy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

反正冰他也只能一直砸他石頭罷了純發洩

By Daph Bay
at 2022-01-26T13:23

今年我原本猜掉到17 結果剩15

By Frederic
at 2022-01-26T00:42

不要再臭龜龜了 QQ

By Isabella
at 2022-01-26T13:23

你有一直關注他的生涯嗎？

By Hamiltion
at 2022-01-26T00:42

詹酸：姆斯-30哈哈哈哈，也是詹酸：詹迷要說正負值
很重要了哈哈哈哈。當詹酸一定不會輸欸，真好！

By Catherine
at 2022-01-26T13:23

不過他早就有退化跡象湖人還開心接盤

By Adele
at 2022-01-26T00:42

刷龜不意外啊只會刷還會幹嘛

By Sarah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

沒臭吧，用數據說話啊

By Agatha
at 2022-01-26T00:42

哈哈總教是對的原來數據差這麼多
總教應該也是忍很久了四千多萬打成這樣

By Steve
at 2022-01-26T13:23

數據是某族群決定今日重要性的感恩

By Daph Bay
at 2022-01-26T00:42

天啊淪落到要跟阿龜比姆斯果然是Goat耶～

By Ingrid
at 2022-01-26T13:23

這時候+-就有參考性了XDDD

By Edwina
at 2022-01-26T00:42

還在小教室勒雙標就承認

By John
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜龜合約還有幾年啊?

By Joe
at 2022-01-26T00:42

+-又開張了

By Ophelia
at 2022-01-26T13:23

1300萬的不留活該

By Frederica
at 2022-01-26T00:42

記得是龜-23，然後被噴爆，數天後換喇叭-30，沒被噴
，才開啟+-之亂的

By Freda
at 2022-01-26T13:23

家鄉球星一直被批鬥 LA球迷能忍嗎

By Todd Johnson
at 2022-01-26T00:42

剩明年吧

By Gilbert
at 2022-01-26T13:23

AD跟龜龜都不要打湖人總冠軍是這樣嗎==

By Charlie
at 2022-01-26T00:42

詹酸不在意跟喇叭無關的數據

By Robert
at 2022-01-26T13:23

哪裡臭了事實證據擺著看比賽也懂

By Eden
at 2022-01-26T00:42

含目前球季，還有兩年共91M，本季44M，下季47M

By Margaret
at 2022-01-26T13:23

領繩的都排走，剩下的隊伍最純粹

By Oliver
at 2022-01-26T00:42

一開始就是那正負值在找戰犯才會被酸-30吧

By Lily
at 2022-01-26T13:23

-30的不兵一下嗎

By Lydia
at 2022-01-26T00:42

下季是球員選擇權，龜不太可能放棄。

By Gilbert
at 2022-01-26T13:23

嘿吶，就m大那意思比較貼切

By Doris
at 2022-01-26T00:42

他們關心的又不是正負值是這個數據能不能酸詹

By Mary
at 2022-01-26T13:23

姆斯刷到全隊最負的時候+/-值就不重要了

By Hedy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

對一開始正負找戰犯後面才被反嘴的XDD

By Michael
at 2022-01-26T13:23

當初有人用正負噴龜結果喇叭正負值爆炸詹粉就安靜
於是便開啟了正負值重要性之搏筊之旅

By Mary
at 2022-01-26T00:42

我還滿期待看龜被冰後姆斯的正負值姆咪要怎麼看XDD

By Wallis
at 2022-01-26T13:23

一值用+-來嘴AD跟龜然後姆斯刷到-最多就沒這種文

By Rachel
at 2022-01-26T00:42

詹酸說先不要用正負找戰犯但有人不聽
詹酸說先不要砸德軟跟零分仔褲子但有人不聽
詹酸都有善意提醒好嗎XDD

By Leila
at 2022-01-26T13:23

不要再捶稻草人了好嗎龜來的時候也沒有歡天喜地
全世界都知道龜需要以他當主軸才有威力

By Skylar Davis
at 2022-01-26T00:42

當初送走施羅德迎來龜龜舉國狂歡景象歷歷在目

By Rachel
at 2022-01-26T13:23

其實姆迷如果要酸龜隨便抓個進階數據都能嘴
+-值太容易打回自己主子身上龜黑心得供你參考

By Hedda
at 2022-01-26T00:42

又有人造謠龜來湖人湖迷舉國狂歡ㄏㄏㄏㄏ
我怎麼看那時候都是愁雲慘霧
只是想想龜再慘兩年後還是有空間就忍了吧

By Sierra Rose
at 2022-01-26T13:23

都善意提醒不要砸德軟你還去找加強版來爽

By Zanna
at 2022-01-26T00:42

用+/-值找人領繩找到刷詹-30

By Necoo
at 2022-01-26T13:23

舉國歡騰的是詹酸吧又有機會可以酸一波了

By Mary
at 2022-01-26T00:42

都2202了還在看+-值… 本版早就定調這個沒意義了

By Michael
at 2022-01-26T13:23

結果喇叭-30 那堆嘴正負的通通最高水準靜悄悄

By Lucy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

沒找到龜的使用說明書就在嫌

By Hamiltion
at 2022-01-26T13:23

舉國歡騰是詹酸？話可以反著講喔？…..
好啊換啊反正夢裡什麼都有

By Linda
at 2022-01-26T00:42

不是單純-23 是詹龜上場時間差不多一個+9一個-23
是這個差距被拿出來講
不過看粉酸亂戰也是很有趣期待接下來湖人的box

By Damian
at 2022-01-26T13:23

看來勇迷很欣賞龜龜不如互換雙贏

By Rae
at 2022-01-26T00:42

哇原來+-雙標是詹酸先開始的喔XD 風向這麼好帶的嗎
？

By Genevieve
at 2022-01-26T13:23

那前三節詹不上第四節龜不上垃圾時間給詹詹刷湖
人不就82-0了

By Rachel
at 2022-01-26T00:42

我看龜龜到湖人的文章
有跳出來講不好的比例大概一成不到還蠻歡樂的啊

By Elma
at 2022-01-26T13:23

當初教訓德軟根本爽到爆炸
龜龜來下面一堆笑死德軟的好歡樂我都感同身受呢

By Elma
at 2022-01-26T00:42

認真?當時叫嚷給德軟教訓是詹酸?

By Joe
at 2022-01-26T13:23

當初龜去湖人時詹迷應該是沒有在開心啦

By Bennie
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜龜不忍噓QQ

By Gilbert
at 2022-01-26T13:23

那德軟酸是哪裡來的？

By Necoo
at 2022-01-26T00:42

畢竟姆咪要先打預防針如果戰績好還可以吹是姆斯的
功勞

By Isabella
at 2022-01-26T13:23

有趣的是，喇叭缺席的比賽裡，龜第四節+OT的正負值
是+3

By Wallis
at 2022-01-26T00:42

然後德軟領590還歡天喜地現在被4400教訓了吧

By Noah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜龜跟LBJ就是互剋打法完全不搭
-23那場誰挑的？

By Tracy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

+-看累計啊就有些人專挑特定場次在嘴

By Ivy
at 2022-01-26T13:23

如果詹-30龜有+1就可以笑他了

By Eden
at 2022-01-26T00:42

某迷一天到晚吃正負值自助餐真的很噁

By Thomas
at 2022-01-26T13:23

NBA史上唯一能守住KD LBJ的男人

By Candice
at 2022-01-26T00:42

喔原來-30 龜龜還要+1才能使用正負之XDD
正負值的使用標準好客製化喔
MJ：Kwame送你啊

By Christine
at 2022-01-26T13:23

當初MJ如果遇上龜龜我看一個冠軍都拿不到

By Doris
at 2022-01-26T00:42

退休吧

By Bennie
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜還是太老實了像那個臭不要臉的刷仔對面終場都
直接24秒送球還要上籃刷的把-22刷到-20還能湊30
分多爽

By Carolina Franco
at 2022-01-26T00:42

是教練不會用吧

By Eden
at 2022-01-26T13:23

#1X0qJT0f (NBA) 自己去看湖迷爽的勒說我造謠？

By Carol
at 2022-01-26T00:42

退休幹嘛錢都還沒領完呢
所以正負值要誰正多少誰負多少才能看？

By Una
at 2022-01-26T13:23

不是啊啊當初那場就是一個+9一個-23被拿出來作文
章嘛不要抓我出來戰我只是陳述一個狀況你們要酸
誰我都沒差

By Doris
at 2022-01-26T00:42

只是舉例不要那麼激動大哥

By George
at 2022-01-26T13:23

真是好小心思的標準呢

By Donna
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜殼連LBJ都背不動

By Madame
at 2022-01-26T13:23

累計

By Quintina
at 2022-01-26T00:42

最近幾場姆斯正負值幾乎都比龜差姆咪就在裝瞎笑死
人

By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜龜多刷兩分效率還是低到可憐
per越來越低這季結束應該不到15

By Wallis
at 2022-01-26T00:42

這你要問發那篇外電的人囉

By Zanna
at 2022-01-26T13:23

沒有算lbj off 龜龜 on的數據，明顯帶風向，一定是
lbj 網軍

By Eden
at 2022-01-26T00:42

有看以前雷霆比賽他跟KD組合就會雷了

By Harry
at 2022-01-26T13:23

昨天本來姆斯-22 後面怒刷2分變-20

By Jacky
at 2022-01-26T00:42

湖人最後兩波拿分其實都無關勝敗就是了

By Rae
at 2022-01-26T13:23

+-自助餐吃起來！昨天不看今天看！

By Caroline
at 2022-01-26T00:42

溜馬最後都刻意失誤不出手還刷要是龜龜這樣幹早就
炸鍋了

By Joe
at 2022-01-26T13:23

當時交易龜龜來大家都知道結果了湖人白吃制服組

By Doris
at 2022-01-26T00:42

這個實在太粗暴

By Sarah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

酸酸還要去記姆斯比賽終場前的刷分喔，有沒有這麼M

By Leila
at 2022-01-26T00:42

雙標的是這些情報來源，他們才有+/-的細節可以挑選

By Ina
at 2022-01-26T13:23

刷得那麼難看不用特別記

By Jacob
at 2022-01-26T00:42

那根本不用特別記，全版皆知好嗎XD

By Faithe
at 2022-01-26T13:23

這刷分還要特別記喔….有這麼不明顯嗎XDD

By Sierra Rose
at 2022-01-26T00:42

是不是有人刻意不想討論？

By Mason
at 2022-01-26T13:23

原來某迷已經洗刷掉昨天刷2分的記憶了嗎XD

By Erin
at 2022-01-26T00:42

這麼屈辱到要封存嗎

By Isla
at 2022-01-26T13:23

某迷觀點 : 無限開火權拿個兩分還要被酸(????)

By Erin
at 2022-01-26T00:42

當場上大家都放棄了，連裁判都恍神沒吹走步，依然
不放棄才是山羊精神！！#當代山羊#一神四坑#躲數據

By Noah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

落後不能得分得分就是刷難怪詹酸都是手軟咖迷

By Odelette
at 2022-01-26T00:42

本季龜跟AD+/-值都是-1.8 LBJ是-0.4都負的別互捅

By Jacob
at 2022-01-26T13:23

這種拼戰精神值得被銘記，怎麼忘？

By Anthony
at 2022-01-26T00:42

真是佩服連昨天那兩分都能護航的粉絲太忠貞了

By Aaliyah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

果然有人開始洗難道落後不得分了XD
這種還挺得下去真的是真愛<3

By Adele
at 2022-01-26T00:42

那為什麼湖人輸溜馬？

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-01-26T13:23

人家溜馬都刻意失誤不投藍了
大概能理解有些人為什麼這麼狂了

By David
at 2022-01-26T00:42

明天有好戲看了湖人現在輸一場都要瀕臨爆炸

By Todd Johnson
at 2022-01-26T13:23

但不是有統計龜龜關鍵時刻很強嗎？

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-01-26T00:42

落後可以追分，不過無關勝負對手都準備發呆了去偷個
兩分，這種還以為是開特力球員才會做的事...

By Dora
at 2022-01-26T13:23

卸下龜殼+50

By Edward Lewis
at 2022-01-26T00:42

這數據...真的龜甲萬....純的醬油,末節打醬油..

By Leila
at 2022-01-26T13:23

是不是龜龜On/Off勝場數沒差多少才用正負值來看？

By Xanthe
at 2022-01-26T00:42

本季特產：假護航龜真詹酸

By Charlotte
at 2022-01-26T13:23

偷分還走步真的笑死不就還好那場不用出報告

By Margaret
at 2022-01-26T00:42

擺林書豪上去運球10秒都沒這麼慘

By Oscar
at 2022-01-26T13:23

應該也要列出 LBJ不在龜龜的+-值吧

By Poppy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

這種跟最後自砸籃板賺大三元一樣都很讚XD

By Eartha
at 2022-01-26T13:23

為什麼姆咪一直肖想勇士啦XD

By Franklin
at 2022-01-26T00:42

永久特產：罵天罵地罵遍眾生唯我詹獨清

By Sandy
at 2022-01-26T13:23

可以讓姆斯上1/2/3節龜龜上2/3/4節

By Charlie
at 2022-01-26T00:42

我勇可以出林書緯

By Donna
at 2022-01-26T13:23

哀這是屈辱式調度了他好歹也是球星

By Madame
at 2022-01-26T00:42

我支持龜龜到勇士請球迷幫忙開強制交易

By Valerie
at 2022-01-26T13:23

那兩分也能酸，不就是還有競爭心態，順手而為，溜馬
都不在意，就酸酸在喊燒

By Frederica
at 2022-01-26T00:42

當初交易來龜湖迷舉國歡騰欸，還說終於擺脫德軟這
個氣氛仔

By Olga
at 2022-01-26T13:23

就無關勝負了還競爭什麼啦XDD 競爭累積數據是很有心

By Thomas
at 2022-01-26T00:42

每篇都在笑德軟領5M XD

By Lydia
at 2022-01-26T13:23

競爭心態XD

By Edith
at 2022-01-26T00:42

沒想到居然真的有人支持那兩分 XDD

By Edith
at 2022-01-26T13:23

那個時間，那個分差，是跟賈霸競爭

By Ophelia
at 2022-01-26T00:42

來截圖一下好了

By Noah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

圓仔笑而不語

By Lily
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜來湖人愁雲慘霧笑死，季前送走0分德軟跟小將包換
龜各種爽啦刺啦現在變愁雲慘霧別馬後炮啦

By Caroline
at 2022-01-26T13:23

可以當簽名檔了

By Quanna
at 2022-01-26T00:42

Rambis有料

By Doris
at 2022-01-26T13:23

競爭心態XD 溜馬球員都要笑死了
如果是對面小將在GOAT面前刷這兩分..不敢想像

By Odelette
at 2022-01-26T00:42

詹酸又開始囉，沒看比賽數據又不看只會酸，好可憐

By Olive
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜龜持球能減輕姆斯負擔、能衝擊禁區、不會欺負blah
blah blah

By Mary
at 2022-01-26T00:42

送走德軟很爽但那又不是爽龜來這邏輯很難懂嗎

By Elizabeth
at 2022-01-26T13:23

溜馬球員人還滿好的，沒蓋他一鍋

By Yedda
at 2022-01-26T00:42

試看看第四節龜上姆下嘛

By Edward Lewis
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜殼果然不是一般人能背的

By Andy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

當初就是龜來確定德軟要走在歡呼啊

By Isabella
at 2022-01-26T13:23

德軟也是自己交易過來的阿，對了龜龜也是

By Kumar
at 2022-01-26T00:42

溜馬 : 我們坦隊還大勝這麼多分，你歷史第二想拿兩
分喔...well

By Kumar
at 2022-01-26T13:23

所以當初一堆人在龜龜文下開德軟嘲諷

By Ida
at 2022-01-26T00:42

他就不防守不知道在衝三小

By Ursula
at 2022-01-26T13:23

都先爽完才開始嫌棄的嗎老傳統？

By Doris
at 2022-01-26T00:42

老詹只是不守潛規則還好啦XD

By Mia
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜龜來確定德軟走還說沒歡呼現在來看應該是一片
哀嚎吧

By Isabella
at 2022-01-26T00:42

是溜馬上一波直接不攻把場面變難看

By Frederica
at 2022-01-26T13:23

把季後賽0分送走，升級姆斯最想要的PG，我看不到哪
裡愁雲慘霧只有現在打得差把話反着說

By Liam
at 2022-01-26T00:42

阿龜甚麼時候要代言負重訓練相關器材啊?

By Mason
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜龜季後賽一輪，專業澇賽的有比較好逆

By Franklin
at 2022-01-26T00:42

德軟沒續到那個高薪約底下還一堆嘲諷現在說沒歡呼
呀

By Noah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

時空背景不同

By Caitlin
at 2022-01-26T00:42

花一堆資源換了40M的季賽專用後衛，這季開始前就知
道的事情捏XD

By Carol
at 2022-01-26T13:23

你是KD嗎？先學揹龜殼 O.o

By Odelette
at 2022-01-26T00:42

數據會說話你想看的數據才是數據

By Gary
at 2022-01-26T13:23

別扯什麼哪知道會這麼差，龜龜這狀態兩、三年有了

By Quanna
at 2022-01-26T00:42

現在要一致說當初早就知道龜是爛交易

By Mason
at 2022-01-26T13:23

有人在臭

By Jacob
at 2022-01-26T00:42

一起修改記憶嗎

By Gary
at 2022-01-26T13:23

巫師就給例行賽後段龜發力一下帶進季後賽了在最高
點賣給湖人，湖人也猜不到龜來是最低點的一季

By Tracy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

不就該龜刷的變姆斯刷？

By Wallis
at 2022-01-26T13:23

不當湖人高層真的可惜了

By Genevieve
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜的打法，使用說明過去幾年都相同，交易過來想魔改
新技能，沒改成又開始怪龜

By Mary
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜那麼爛看湖人丟光側翼就覺得令人堪憂

By Caitlin
at 2022-01-26T00:42

那你湖人等到季末再給龜發力阿，現在連明星賽都還沒
過就在嫌棄龜龜

By Ina
at 2022-01-26T13:23

脖子洗乾淨幫姆斯領繩吧

By Faithe
at 2022-01-26T00:42

不是最低點吧是他跟喇叭不合才會導致低點

By Irma
at 2022-01-26T13:23

說不定龜龜這季末很強欸，耐心呢

By Belly
at 2022-01-26T00:42

當初就說換到龜就不用德軟這0分仔了，這不是歡呼是
什麼
難道是時空背景不同之術嗎

By Bethany
at 2022-01-26T13:23

而且覺得他差還丟褲子 KCP跟黑肉根本不是這樣好嗎

By Damian
at 2022-01-26T00:42

交易來龜龜真的是請龜拿藥單

By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜該不會要給他Beal這種的吧

By Anonymous
at 2022-01-26T00:42

今年巫師是去年先發便替補... 直接換一組先發

By Oscar
at 2022-01-26T13:23

湖迷對龜會有錯誤期待我也是很納悶

By Annie
at 2022-01-26T00:42

我就說龜龜一定守得住詹皇

By Catherine
at 2022-01-26T13:23

決策之王

By Emma
at 2022-01-26T00:42

慘

By Ina
at 2022-01-26T13:23

那兩分用競爭心護航真的有誇張到看NBA這麼多年第一
次看到這種球會攻的

By Carol
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜需要KD

By Frederica
at 2022-01-26T13:23

當時還能換Heild 結果湖人果斷換龜
湖迷那時候還護航
龜沒救吧 KD都扛不起來

By Heather
at 2022-01-26T00:42

湖人高層竟然是看中季末發威的龜龜才交易來的，那這
季不等到季末說不過起吧w

By Brianna
at 2022-01-26T13:23

褲子跟KCP，小繩組合換大繩

By Connor
at 2022-01-26T00:42

打從一開始就應該認清這是一筆大錯特錯的交易啊XD

By Vanessa
at 2022-01-26T13:23

真的想贏你倒是犯規凍結時間啊

By Jacky
at 2022-01-26T00:42

#1Wbpv_T8 (NBA) 龜去年打溜馬還33-19-15 今年直接
被冰在板凳看刷仔表演也是可憐

By David
at 2022-01-26T13:23

不當初褲子也是被罵爆所以當初丟的心安理得呢

By Frederica
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜殼才揹幾個月就受不了圓仔可是揹8年

By Genevieve
at 2022-01-26T13:23

KD那時是年輕龜,還沒那麼重

By Megan
at 2022-01-26T00:42

欸對褲子也是嫌棄的不行

By Callum
at 2022-01-26T13:23

有強SG的球隊是不是可以考慮龜龜阿

By Carolina Franco
at 2022-01-26T00:42

當初丟掉KCP 黑肉褲子根本沒有所謂的可惜
心心念念的就是新來的能給姆斯多大幫助

By Blanche
at 2022-01-26T13:23

強SG? 可能要MJ才能扛起龜吧

By Isla
at 2022-01-26T00:42

當時覺得納悶，褲子這種便宜有外線尺寸足的延伸四
號位丟了都不心疼

By Callum
at 2022-01-26T13:23

當初你改kuzma當3D後季後賽也是嫌到不行呀，結果ku
zma跟德軟兩個覺得不行的換來龜還不歡呼難道要哭？

By Frederic
at 2022-01-26T00:42

季後賽零分仔這稱號敢說沒罵過？

By Charlie
at 2022-01-26T13:23

褲子也是被亂搞不然他今年才1300萬很好用

By Hedda
at 2022-01-26T00:42

各種有哪些老將來底薪上車每個都爆文

By Isla
at 2022-01-26T13:23

褲子這種四號位每隊都缺（除了巫師

By Joseph
at 2022-01-26T00:42

德軟被噴爆可是那年季後賽命中率還是贏龜
換龜龜真的很扯

By Rae
at 2022-01-26T13:23

現在轉口風說愁，愁在哪

By Valerie
at 2022-01-26T00:42

換龜其實好不好用完全不考慮,湖人就是想丟萬用包
有點像以物換物一樣，完全不能預測換到啥

By Joe
at 2022-01-26T13:23

KUZ跟KCP不錯啊，可是湖人有賭明星的傳統.......
LAL賭明星就是件政治正確的事情

By Agnes
at 2022-01-26T00:42

姆斯，真的不合啦

By Ingrid
at 2022-01-26T13:23

現在+-值又有用了

By Jacky
at 2022-01-26T00:42

就賭龜龜能不能融入，目前賭輸很難停損

By Frederica
at 2022-01-26T13:23

幸好DDR去公牛了不是來湖人又要轉打法，立即要領繩
現在在公牛超爽

By Edith
at 2022-01-26T00:42

所以姆斯該交易吧，龜龜犧牲球權打不好很正常，但
現在姆斯球權最多，結果是負成這樣，是不是該交易
？

By Isabella
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜龜都是一張快刮完上面寫著銘謝惠就差顧的彩券了，
還賭明星....

By Thomas
at 2022-01-26T00:42

現在龜是不是每場都在改打法

By Thomas
at 2022-01-26T13:23

姆斯能賣票，除非他自請不然留在隊上還是很好用

By Iris
at 2022-01-26T00:42

真的褲子走了也好留在湖人被亂羞辱而已一個奪冠
功臣被罵爆真的非常糟糕

By Damian
at 2022-01-26T13:23

褲子明明有實力只是你沒有妥善使用它

By Rae
at 2022-01-26T00:42

巫師是只把龜龜這張彩券包裝的很華麗逆

By Kama
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜犧牲球權連唯一的優勢也沒了..

By Elizabeth
at 2022-01-26T00:42

留褲子也比二旬老漢好多了，6尺9身材就在那
只是他得罪了皇上

By Daniel
at 2022-01-26T13:23

湖人少的能幹苦工的前鋒就是褲子了

By Irma
at 2022-01-26T00:42

褲子是不是便宜有實力還能打？

By Anonymous
at 2022-01-26T13:23

老詹也要一球在手這個無解了

By Rebecca
at 2022-01-26T00:42

本以為你湖要把褲子當少主

By Joseph
at 2022-01-26T13:23

母獅一直都霸球,但是效率還是有的,不像龜這麼糟

By Elma
at 2022-01-26T00:42

最好笑的是留THT丟AC 還是高價留真的笑死

By Harry
at 2022-01-26T13:23

但問題是龜改不了要用就是要遷就他

By Queena
at 2022-01-26T00:42

西河可憐哪

By Brianna
at 2022-01-26T13:23

老詹霸球很久了可是他的進攻效率沒啥退化
龜就一路下去

By Charlotte
at 2022-01-26T00:42

不最好笑的是拿龜龜還丟一輪籤XD

By Lucy
at 2022-01-26T13:23

當初補個Heild都好過龜龜而且補他能留一個萬用包
錢還能留卡禿一步錯步步錯慘啊

By Puput
at 2022-01-26T00:42

詹皇都扛不動的龜殼...

By Adele
at 2022-01-26T13:23

詹一球在手還是有效率的但是他打到這年紀還這樣打
結果就是防守插腰你高難度打進兩分防守再放對面
輕鬆投籃不就只是在刷嗎

By Margaret
at 2022-01-26T00:42

現在不准失誤龜也不敢拿球

By Belly
at 2022-01-26T13:23

褲子1300萬巫師真的做夢都會笑
龜龜需要高容錯率的隊伍湖人不適合他

By Hedy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

最好笑的是都打這樣還有人拿以前就這樣來護航說這種
表現ok 我都分不清楚是在護航還是反串黑

By Zenobia
at 2022-01-26T13:23

丟一輪真的笑死那年還是超級大年
誰算一下湖人錯過了誰?

By Megan
at 2022-01-26T00:42

老詹守備很神奇進階數據看起來ok
看比賽就是雷 TPA/DWS/DBPM都正的
D-LEBRON-0.16 也沒負很多

By Regina
at 2022-01-26T13:23

我只讓我覺得會贏球的人上

By Freda
at 2022-01-26T00:42

老實說我很好奇這種現象
如果只是一家數據高可能是那家有問題
可是大多數都高就很奇怪

By John
at 2022-01-26T13:23

詹酸是有網軍嗎怎麼每篇都可以蹦蹦跳幾十句那麼閒

By Una
at 2022-01-26T00:42

結果冰龜還是輸溜馬，所以問題還是全隊防守根本沒
在守的問題

By Isla
at 2022-01-26T13:23

以前也有過火箭哈登監視器到上俠客但是版上筆戰某
數據大能整理出他防守還Ok的數據

By Blanche
at 2022-01-26T00:42

想罵但又會被版主桶，我只能這樣表達了呵

By Wallis
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜就退化到適合帶爛隊看能不能進季後賽

By Poppy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

± 值何時變得那麼重要了? 只是為了讓龜領繩而已吧

By Robert
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜適合的是能配合他跑位的側翼 +像鴨蛋能在龜切入
過深還能給小球給他拋投助攻的球員

By Ivy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

so fourth quarter LeBron is -4 this season

By Quanna
at 2022-01-26T13:23

湖人囤後衛說是配合龜可是場上打法明明不合

By Isla
at 2022-01-26T00:42

姆斯不補防不協防進階效率就看不出來啊
他單防還是不錯的
各種進階效率也沒把籃板卡位算進去吧

By Ursula
at 2022-01-26T13:23

關鍵時刻給LBJ吧

By Candice
at 2022-01-26T00:42

LBJ當中鋒每隊對手對位他的都能爽空切這數據看得出
來嗎

By Zenobia
at 2022-01-26T13:23

他不是打中鋒位都是丟給史丹利跟瓜瓜
他都是補防看戲的那個

By Iris
at 2022-01-26T00:42

連那兩分也可以用競爭心態護航叉腰防守跟裁判哭
哭要不要也來護航一下

By Sarah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

排

By Yuri
at 2022-01-26T00:42

就是他進攻打進兩分但對面比他更輕鬆就能得兩分當
你鐵幾球就開始落後

By Edward Lewis
at 2022-01-26T13:23

因為他都不守的對面超好進攻
金塊那場超明顯

By Olivia
at 2022-01-26T00:42

正常中鋒擋拆被拉出去弱邊球員要進來補
但湖人就沒人去補因為那個人通常是姆斯

By Agnes
at 2022-01-26T13:23

就我有我得分對面比他更爽得分

By Queena
at 2022-01-26T00:42

開始要戰隊友惹~ 每年固定戲碼

By Queena
at 2022-01-26T13:23

數據彰顯不出來的他不會做

By Joe
at 2022-01-26T00:42

再算個最後三分鍾再來

By Linda
at 2022-01-26T13:23

超級垃圾時間刷分叫競爭心態？姆咪真逗趣呢

By Hedwig
at 2022-01-26T00:42

感覺RW頗適合熱火尼克等隊型

By Agnes
at 2022-01-26T13:23

問題是龜爆炸貴

By Selena
at 2022-01-26T00:42

正負值自助餐，是誰自助就不說了

By Vanessa
at 2022-01-26T13:23

雷龜真的雷啊，效率超級爛薪水超高

By Olivia
at 2022-01-26T00:42

熱火尼克得罪誰啊？

By Robert
at 2022-01-26T13:23

那怎麼不放老詹不在場上，Russ的+/-值呢？ㄏㄏ

By Ida
at 2022-01-26T00:42

西河是連數據都難看啊…又不單單是正負值的問題

By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜的用法就是衝起來啊教練自己不會用

By Oliver
at 2022-01-26T00:42

把一個持球核心的球權拔掉當然數據難看

By Mason
at 2022-01-26T13:23

突然一堆龜酸變龜迷嘻嘻

By Susan
at 2022-01-26T00:42

湖人現在想放生也沒人接盤了（合掌）

By Zanna
at 2022-01-26T13:23

所以才有教練要下課的傳聞啊

By Kumar
at 2022-01-26T00:42

已經跟龜酸龜迷無關了湖人現在就炸鍋啦

By Kyle
at 2022-01-26T13:23

大家別生氣，看個影片消消火
https://youtu.be/u0r8eAhhf3k

By Charlotte
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜是打不好,但把戰績不好的原因歸咎於龜龜也不對吧

By Gary
at 2022-01-26T13:23

下一場打魔術乾脆直接冰了然後說嘿沒你就輕鬆贏

By Jacky
at 2022-01-26T00:42

第一天知道他這樣打球嗎?球隊防守爛是他的問題嗎?

By Kama
at 2022-01-26T13:23

他至少占50%責任啦自己爛就算了為了換他又丟了兩
個有防守的

By Ingrid
at 2022-01-26T00:42

雖然我覺得決定換的那個才該負責

By Gilbert
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜的能力又不是第一天知道..商品展示都幾年了

By Megan
at 2022-01-26T00:42

本來以為龜龜是跟姆斯AD輪流打只要省力進季後就賺
誰知道1+1<1

By Ula
at 2022-01-26T13:23

問題在下命令找龜來的人吧

By Hamiltion
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜的打法跟LBJ就不合，搞砸了又全怪他

By Michael
at 2022-01-26T13:23

其實龜龜不錯了，他只要做好兩樣事情就沒問題了，就
是進攻跟防守這兩樣

By Madame
at 2022-01-26T00:42

寄生威少的詹酸會很不方便

By Catherine
at 2022-01-26T13:23

鬧成這樣要不要分兩個陣容輪流打

By Anonymous
at 2022-01-26T00:42

單一場正負確實沒啥參考價值但時間拉長還能差到84
我是沒啥臉去護航啦

By Callum
at 2022-01-26T13:23

季賽只練兩陣輪流打，季後可以走到哪呢

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-01-26T00:42

沒辦法拿威少的數據酸詹只好開始印象大法了

By Daniel
at 2022-01-26T13:23

花四千萬第四節冷凍季後也走不遠吧

By Faithe
at 2022-01-26T00:42

你要拚冠終究還是要想辦法讓他磨進來的

By Elvira
at 2022-01-26T13:23

看你覺得冷凍輸得多還是放他上場輸得多

By Ina
at 2022-01-26T00:42

這屆的寄生仔是我看過最慘的居然要寄生這麼弱的XDD

By Hedwig
at 2022-01-26T13:23

如果是目標最後那就是中間要忍受過渡期湖人現在應

By Faithe
at 2022-01-26T00:42

該是沒有中間好看又能走到最終點的選項了

By Hedda
at 2022-01-26T13:23

不然就是要說服他打替補四千萬替補

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-01-26T00:42

可是龜季後賽固定雷欸

By Agatha
at 2022-01-26T13:23

這大家都知道但湖人還是相信他了阿...
還是湖人打一開始就決定季後賽冰他

By Cara
at 2022-01-26T00:42

我發過一篇文他季後賽出手會大量增加尤其是不合
理的三分他就是想當英雄怎麼可能替補呢

By Cara
at 2022-01-26T13:23

笑死

By Gilbert
at 2022-01-26T00:42

這就讓我想到打國王那場拔那一個三分湖迷心應該都涼
了

By Isla
at 2022-01-26T13:23

我是覺得湖人已經把辦法都嘗試過了，但就是不合
真正的四千萬巨星那需要這樣花時間磨合

By Dorothy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

計劃就是龜龜帶季賽讓另兩個划水季後賽才出力
結果龜龜雷就算了還一個打電動拿冠軍XD

By Anthony
at 2022-01-26T13:23

辛苦我哥了

By Doris
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜龜一直都這樣湖人自己不信邪

By Delia
at 2022-01-26T13:23

呵正負值一個月只能看這一場

By Necoo
at 2022-01-26T00:42

雖然我覺得主要因素還是工兵的程度跟傷病

By Candice
at 2022-01-26T13:23

湖人就愛刷子，狗龜一脈相承

By Blanche
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜放場上就是dot在那邊跳，最適合他的位置就是板凳

By Kyle
at 2022-01-26T13:23

四千萬在場上傷害球隊跟叫他顧好開特力，我會選後者

By Valerie
at 2022-01-26T00:42

44M無傷球員顧開特力，湖人真的比勇士還土豪了XDDDD

By Edwina
at 2022-01-26T13:23

放上去就4打6了，只能忍痛當土豪了

By Sandy
at 2022-01-26T00:42

龜龜比我大戰神AI還雷

By Valerie
at 2022-01-26T13:23

+-自助餐

By Caroline
at 2022-01-26T00:42

沒有lbj的嗎

By Selena
at 2022-01-26T13:23

冰龜和皇湖人就起飛了

By Freda
at 2022-01-26T00:42

詹也-20幾兩個都別上了是這樣看的？

By Lily
at 2022-01-26T13:23

大家再看個影片，消消氣
https://youtu.be/neQj7RIbh4o

By Harry
at 2022-01-26T00:42

喇叭招進來的自己負責

By Sandy
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜龜不是GOAT，-20乖乖領繩

By Belly
at 2022-01-26T00:42

是不是在詹的球隊都會這樣子批鬥隊友大會啊

By Andrew
at 2022-01-26T13:23

只是別隊氣氛沒人在乎而已

By Joe
at 2022-01-26T00:42

那就前三節瘋狂操龜龜36分鐘啊

By Mary
at 2022-01-26T13:23

讓姆斯假先發讓龜龜去衝前三節就最好的用法
反正姆斯也只認真第四節而已做到這樣再冰龜
龜龜也沒話講反正數據大家都有得刷
姆斯也可以第四節滿血帶隊

By Catherine
at 2022-01-26T00:42

不可能因為要刷411...

By Zanna
at 2022-01-26T13:23

最後10秒都要刷2分的人,怎麼可能會放掉前3節專心防
守放掉數據...

By Ethan
at 2022-01-26T00:42

兩支偷懶的，不能擺一起

By Oscar
at 2022-01-26T13:23

今天又是個可以看+-值的一天

By Frederic
at 2022-01-26T00:42

笑死為了衝戰績要goat放棄刷分好時機？

By Olive
at 2022-01-26T13:23

是不是搞錯goat今年的goal了？？

By Oscar
at 2022-01-26T00:42

腿詹現在就是專注在刷分球隊勝負隊友死活都不關他
的事怎麼可能還配合龜龜

By Oliver
at 2022-01-26T13:23

之前吹詹正負值的好像都姆咪耶被迴力鏢打到還要裝
沒事真辛苦

By Donna
at 2022-01-26T00:42

裝沒事好傳神喔

By Hazel
at 2022-01-26T13:23

那來看命中率吧龜龜 TS 50%，優於聯盟20%的球員；
efg 47%，優於聯盟19%的球員；禁區命中率53%，優於
聯盟16%的球員；中距離命中率37%，優於聯盟32%的球
員；三分命中率30%，優於聯盟20%的球員；罰球命中率
67%，優於聯盟14%的球員；薪水4421萬美金，聯盟第三
，優於聯盟99%的球員。

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-01-26T00:42

數據真的會說話

By Catherine
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜不上每10分鐘多得4分，上每10分鐘多丟1分，來回差
3分，但是湖人的第4節分差根本不是這3分補得上吧

By Queena
at 2022-01-26T00:42

MK47大XDD 真的是常常一針見血

By Caitlin
at 2022-01-26T13:23

https://youtu.be/Y2VX5FJv2Eo Levert第四節高光
只有一球是龜龜對位其他球甜瓜漏人更誇張

By Jacky
at 2022-01-26T00:42

被逆轉的時刻龜龜也不在場上

By Ophelia
at 2022-01-26T13:23

薪水聯盟第三，優於聯盟99%的球員XDDDDDDD

By Skylar Davis
at 2022-01-26T00:42

所有出手數據都在聯盟倒數1/5的領聯盟第三的薪水XDD

By Todd Johnson
at 2022-01-26T13:23

龜龜：trade me 湖人：你賣不掉啊

By Rebecca
at 2022-01-26T00:42

勞工典範

By Tracy
at 2022-01-26T13:23

繼續罵沒關係越看越有趣

By Bennie
at 2022-01-26T00:42

排

By Victoria
at 2022-01-26T13:23

瓜底薪跟領四千萬的比？？？

By Charlotte
at 2022-01-26T00:42

一個正負值酸酸迷迷各自解讀
這個數據真的太有趣了

By Olivia
at 2022-01-26T13:23

領繩

By Edwina
at 2022-01-26T00:42

不過從這數據很明顯可以看出來
龜跟姆斯一起在場上基本上是敗球時間

By Zora
at 2022-01-26T13:23

我哥搞了那麼久才發現這件事的確太誇張了

By Mason
at 2022-01-26T00:42

MK47大直接一刀砍脖子不囉嗦XD

By Audriana
at 2022-01-26T13:23

還不是被LBJ弱化

By Steve
at 2022-01-26T00:42

大三元！

By John
at 2022-01-26T13:23

這龜殼真得很重

By Una
at 2022-01-26T00:42

想護航還看不懂數據ㄎㄎ

By Noah
at 2022-01-26T13:23

弱化靈氣，姆迷又要檢討隊友了
會不會現在喬丹復出也被姆迷檢討？？

By Kyle
at 2022-01-26T00:42

版上的文都還在也不會查一下，當初龜來多開心酸德
軟酸的多爽…變成愁雲慘霧哈哈哈笑死人，當初還說
管理層多強不會被德軟綁架，這麼快就忘光了哦？？
？

By Caitlin
at 2022-01-26T13:23

就病急亂投醫龜迷當初看這交易也是很怕變現在這樣

By Carol
at 2022-01-26T00:42

幫龜說話=龜迷，腿迷的神邏輯，腿詹打了快20年抱了
多少根大腿有哪幾年腿迷沒在嫌隊友的啊？？

By Valerie
at 2022-01-26T13:23

那有姆斯的嗎

By Blanche
at 2022-01-26T00:42

KD：不是KD想抱腿是某龜真的太雷

By Edwina
at 2022-01-26T13:23

XDDDD

在龜龜第四節有上的342分鐘，湖人合計-34 - NBA

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