在宣稱喬丹最偉大前你所需要知道的5件事 - NBA

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如果要以季後賽和帶隊奪冠來評價球員,
就純理性邏輯上,
必須說:
「LBJ完勝MJ」!
因為
沒有皮本只有喬丹的公牛,
只能老七或老八進入季後賽,
但是沒有皮本等級只有LBJ的騎士,
可不是吊車尾進季後賽,
也就是LBJ獨自帶隊的戰績可以比MJ獨自帶隊能力優秀。
更退一步來說,
喬丹退休後,
失去喬丹的公牛
是連續進季後賽,
失去LBJ的騎士和熱火,
連季後賽的尾燈都看不到,
就帶領球隊晉級季後賽進而奪冠這件事,
理性邏輯上,LBJ明顯勝於MJ,
而且,
LBJ從來沒有奪冠有金身的質疑,
MJ有不少被質疑的黑哨。
以上理性討論而已
因為我始終相信,
世界上目前為止
無人在籃球的影響力可以大於MJ。
※ 引述《youga (妖嘎)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《onionandy (Kayou)》之銘言:
: : 我覺得這篇蠻厲害的
: : 厲害在哪裡呢?他講的基本上是事實沒錯
: : 但是他沒有講的東西可多了
: : 在他預設的前提條件下被忽略了一大堆
: : 要戳破這篇還要一個一個查資料
: : 真的厲害
: : NBA reference點開來一看就知道了
: : https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html
: : 照這個預設標準估計所有球員都可以被講得很爛
: : ※ 引述《kyle5241 (Kyle Korver)》之銘言:
: : : https://twitter.com/FTFonFS1/status/1316013116912615427?s=20
: : : The case against Michael Jordan not being the GOAT, according to
: : : @getnickwright
: : : 為什麼喬丹不是史上最偉大的球員呢?
: : : 1. Loser without Pippen
: : : 2. Never once beat Larry Bird
: : : 3. Could never beat a Super Team
: : : 4. The East was terrible
: : : 5. Everyone won rings on his watch
: : : "We pretend Jordan's career was 6 years long."
: : : 1. Loser without Pippen
: : : 沒有皮朋時只是個輸家
: : : 在皮朋出現前,公牛隊只是一個勝率5成以下的球隊
: : : 沒有皮朋的巫師也是
: : : 但沒有喬丹的公牛還蠻強的
: : 「在皮朋出現之前」這句話沒講的事情是
: : 喬丹是1984-85球季第三順位加入公牛
: : 皮朋則是1987-88球季的第五順位,跟超音速換來的
: : 所以說喬丹是生涯前三年勝率不到5成
: : 而公牛在選進喬丹前一年是全聯盟倒數第二的隊伍(27-55)
: : 是實質倒數第二而不是隊中明星傷退導致戰績一厥不振
: : 喬丹第一年公牛的戰績是(38-44)老七進季後賽
: : 敗給全聯盟第三有雙星的公鹿
: : 皮朋第一年也還是個7.9分新人替補
: : 通篇講得好像喬丹沒了皮朋就不行,真的厲害
: : 至於巫師
: : 也是前一年倒數第二
: : 還要38.39歲的老喬下去打
: : 這也可以拿出來酸
: : 蠻厲害的
: 看一下MJ生涯前幾季 公牛戰績
: 騎士姆斯
: 27 55 .329 17 65 .207
: W L 選到MJ W L 選到姆斯
: 38 44 .463 35 47 .427
: 30 52 .366 42 40 .512
: 40 42 .488 50 32 .610
: W L 選到皮朋
: 50 32 .610 50 32 .610
: 47 35 .573 45 37 .549
: 55 27 .671 66 16 .805
: 61 21 .744 第一冠 61 21 .744 底西訊
: 你要說選到皮朋以後沒差別實在沒什麼說服力
: 只能說MJ很幸運 制服組有機會選到皮朋
: 皮朋也只有第一年是替補 第二年就開始先發了
: 而MJ 15年球員生涯有10年跟皮朋重疊在一起
: 等於最顛峰的時間都是在跟皮朋打球
: 排除掉巫師隊已經老扣扣
: (那只能說沒什麼人能像郵差38歲一樣猛)
: MJ其實也沒什麼機會再去證明他沒皮朋還是能拿冠
: 畢竟他們一起就拿六冠了 傻了才想拆夥
: 因此這命題說MJ沒了皮朋就是輸家
: 但其實頂多只能說剛進聯盟前三年的MJ還沒把公牛拉起來
: 皮朋來了當副手幫助了他 然後就開始了公牛王朝
: 至於前三年沒成績 除了前一年主力受傷的那種
: 哪個樂透新秀不是這樣?
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就純理性邏輯上,
必須說:
「LBJ完勝MJ」!
因為
沒有皮本只有喬丹的公牛,
只能老七或老八進入季後賽,
但是沒有皮本等級只有LBJ的騎士,
可不是吊車尾進季後賽,
也就是LBJ獨自帶隊的戰績可以比MJ獨自帶隊能力優秀。
更退一步來說,
喬丹退休後,
失去喬丹的公牛
是連續進季後賽,
失去LBJ的騎士和熱火,
連季後賽的尾燈都看不到,
就帶領球隊晉級季後賽進而奪冠這件事,
理性邏輯上,LBJ明顯勝於MJ,
而且,
LBJ從來沒有奪冠有金身的質疑,
MJ有不少被質疑的黑哨。
以上理性討論而已
因為我始終相信,
世界上目前為止
無人在籃球的影響力可以大於MJ。
※ 引述《youga (妖嘎)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《onionandy (Kayou)》之銘言:
: : 我覺得這篇蠻厲害的
: : 厲害在哪裡呢?他講的基本上是事實沒錯
: : 但是他沒有講的東西可多了
: : 在他預設的前提條件下被忽略了一大堆
: : 要戳破這篇還要一個一個查資料
: : 真的厲害
: : NBA reference點開來一看就知道了
: : https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html
: : 照這個預設標準估計所有球員都可以被講得很爛
: : ※ 引述《kyle5241 (Kyle Korver)》之銘言:
: : : https://twitter.com/FTFonFS1/status/1316013116912615427?s=20
: : : The case against Michael Jordan not being the GOAT, according to
: : : @getnickwright
: : : 為什麼喬丹不是史上最偉大的球員呢?
: : : 1. Loser without Pippen
: : : 2. Never once beat Larry Bird
: : : 3. Could never beat a Super Team
: : : 4. The East was terrible
: : : 5. Everyone won rings on his watch
: : : "We pretend Jordan's career was 6 years long."
: : : 1. Loser without Pippen
: : : 沒有皮朋時只是個輸家
: : : 在皮朋出現前,公牛隊只是一個勝率5成以下的球隊
: : : 沒有皮朋的巫師也是
: : : 但沒有喬丹的公牛還蠻強的
: : 「在皮朋出現之前」這句話沒講的事情是
: : 喬丹是1984-85球季第三順位加入公牛
: : 皮朋則是1987-88球季的第五順位,跟超音速換來的
: : 所以說喬丹是生涯前三年勝率不到5成
: : 而公牛在選進喬丹前一年是全聯盟倒數第二的隊伍(27-55)
: : 是實質倒數第二而不是隊中明星傷退導致戰績一厥不振
: : 喬丹第一年公牛的戰績是(38-44)老七進季後賽
: : 敗給全聯盟第三有雙星的公鹿
: : 皮朋第一年也還是個7.9分新人替補
: : 通篇講得好像喬丹沒了皮朋就不行,真的厲害
: : 至於巫師
: : 也是前一年倒數第二
: : 還要38.39歲的老喬下去打
: : 這也可以拿出來酸
: : 蠻厲害的
: 看一下MJ生涯前幾季 公牛戰績
: 騎士姆斯
: 27 55 .329 17 65 .207
: W L 選到MJ W L 選到姆斯
: 38 44 .463 35 47 .427
: 30 52 .366 42 40 .512
: 40 42 .488 50 32 .610
: W L 選到皮朋
: 50 32 .610 50 32 .610
: 47 35 .573 45 37 .549
: 55 27 .671 66 16 .805
: 61 21 .744 第一冠 61 21 .744 底西訊
: 你要說選到皮朋以後沒差別實在沒什麼說服力
: 只能說MJ很幸運 制服組有機會選到皮朋
: 皮朋也只有第一年是替補 第二年就開始先發了
: 而MJ 15年球員生涯有10年跟皮朋重疊在一起
: 等於最顛峰的時間都是在跟皮朋打球
: 排除掉巫師隊已經老扣扣
: (那只能說沒什麼人能像郵差38歲一樣猛)
: MJ其實也沒什麼機會再去證明他沒皮朋還是能拿冠
: 畢竟他們一起就拿六冠了 傻了才想拆夥
: 因此這命題說MJ沒了皮朋就是輸家
: 但其實頂多只能說剛進聯盟前三年的MJ還沒把公牛拉起來
: 皮朋來了當副手幫助了他 然後就開始了公牛王朝
: 至於前三年沒成績 除了前一年主力受傷的那種
: 哪個樂透新秀不是這樣?
-----
Sent from JPTT on my Samsung SM-J710GN.
--
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