單季PER值 各位置史上前十 - NBA

By Kelly
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首先PER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_efficiency_rating 介紹
裡面有提到 當大於 兩分球命中率30.4% 三分球命中率21.4% 時
PER會是出手越多 而獲得越高的分數 這種效率NBA隨便一個球員都能達到
這是PER缺點之一 所以有人很愛反駁 但不知道KOBE事實上 靠這大量出手吃香
所以低效率低命中率 例如今年的KOBE PER也是會因今年出手越多而受惠
所以要說一下 這數據不是創來捧LBJ 黑KOBE的 不要因為KOBE不再
前面就把數據認為沒價值 當然也不能說PER沒有缺點 以下為板友的文 可以看看
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1294227002.A.2CA.html #1D95OwBA (NBA)
這篇還有Hollinger 說道自己因為這數據 被迷迷攻擊 因為LBJ排在KOBE前面
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1294229720.A.EAA.html #1D963Owg (NBA)
這篇指出缺點
05-06是KOBE的PER 最顛峰期 單季27.97 歷史排名61
場均出手了27.2次 外加10.2罰 FG%.450 得分35.4
可是單季次高PER卻掉到了02-03的26.17 歷史排名123
這次剛好是KOBE場均出手單季第2高 (WADE生涯平均PER就25.02了)
再來05-06的巔峰PER 也不是該季最高 排在前面就有2個
FG-FGA FG% 3P-3PA 3P% TRB AST PTS PER
LeBron James 11.1-23.1 .480 1.6-4.8 .335 7.0 6.6 31.4 28.06
Dirk Nowitzki 9.3-19.3 .480 1.4-3.3 .406 9.0 2.8 26.6 28.06
都給你出手到27.2次了 你不爭氣 只能怪數據公式爛
再來補個單季歷史PER前20
Rank Player PER Season Tm
1. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.82 1962-63 SFW
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.74 1961-62 PHW
3. Michael Jordan* 31.71 1987-88 CHI
4. LeBron James 31.67 2008-09 CLE
5. Michael Jordan* 31.63 1990-91 CHI
6. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.63 1963-64 SFW
7. LeBron James 31.59 2012-13 MIA
8. Michael Jordan* 31.18 1989-90 CHI
9. Michael Jordan* 31.14 1988-89 CHI
10. LeBron James 31.11 2009-10 CLE
11. Anthony Davis 30.81 2014-15 NOP
12. LeBron James 30.74 2011-12 MIA
13. David Robinson* 30.66 1993-94 SAS
14. Shaquille O'Neal 30.65 1999-00 LAL
15. Shaquille O'Neal 30.55 1998-99 LAL
16. Dwyane Wade 30.36 2008-09 MIA
17. Tracy McGrady 30.27 2002-03 ORL
18. Shaquille O'Neal 30.23 2000-01 LAL
19. Chris Paul 29.96 2008-09 NOH
20. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 29.94 1971-72 MIL
今年AD的怪物級表現 排在歷史第11
現役生涯PER前20
Rank Player PER
1. LeBron James 27.66
2. Chris Paul 25.63
3. Dwyane Wade 25.02
4. Kevin Durant 24.66
5. Tim Duncan 24.47
6. Dirk Nowitzki 23.26
7. Kobe Bryant 23.21
8. Kevin Garnett 22.77
9. Russell Westbrook 22.13
10. Dwight Howard 21.97
11. Amar'e Stoudemire 21.95
12. Pau Gasol 21.58
13. Carmelo Anthony 21.18
14. Manu Ginobili 21.10
15. Al Jefferson 20.75
16. Chris Bosh 20.58
17. Elton Brand 20.57
18. LaMarcus Aldridge 20.29
19. Paul Pierce 20.14
20. Vince Carter 19.75
歷史生涯前20
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.66
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
6. Chris Paul 25.63
7. Bob Pettit* 25.35
8. Dwyane Wade 25.02
9. Neil Johnston* 24.69
10. Kevin Durant 24.66
11. Charles Barkley* 24.63
12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
13. Tim Duncan 24.47
14. Magic Johnson* 24.11
15. Karl Malone* 23.90
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
17. Julius Erving* 23.58
18. Larry Bird* 23.50
19. Dirk Nowitzki 23.26
20. Kobe Bryant 23.21
其實KOBE也沒多差 生涯也有在歷史20名
只是前面一堆數據怪物 也沒啥好反駁這數據的
如果要比別的進階數據 說真的前幾個也是會在前面
如果還是要反駁PER 那對KOBE而言 所有的進階數據都是沒用的
因為排名不是更後面 就是20左右
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裡面有提到 當大於 兩分球命中率30.4% 三分球命中率21.4% 時
PER會是出手越多 而獲得越高的分數 這種效率NBA隨便一個球員都能達到
這是PER缺點之一 所以有人很愛反駁 但不知道KOBE事實上 靠這大量出手吃香
所以低效率低命中率 例如今年的KOBE PER也是會因今年出手越多而受惠
所以要說一下 這數據不是創來捧LBJ 黑KOBE的 不要因為KOBE不再
前面就把數據認為沒價值 當然也不能說PER沒有缺點 以下為板友的文 可以看看
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1294227002.A.2CA.html #1D95OwBA (NBA)
這篇還有Hollinger 說道自己因為這數據 被迷迷攻擊 因為LBJ排在KOBE前面
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1294229720.A.EAA.html #1D963Owg (NBA)
這篇指出缺點
05-06是KOBE的PER 最顛峰期 單季27.97 歷史排名61
場均出手了27.2次 外加10.2罰 FG%.450 得分35.4
可是單季次高PER卻掉到了02-03的26.17 歷史排名123
這次剛好是KOBE場均出手單季第2高 (WADE生涯平均PER就25.02了)
再來05-06的巔峰PER 也不是該季最高 排在前面就有2個
FG-FGA FG% 3P-3PA 3P% TRB AST PTS PER
LeBron James 11.1-23.1 .480 1.6-4.8 .335 7.0 6.6 31.4 28.06
Dirk Nowitzki 9.3-19.3 .480 1.4-3.3 .406 9.0 2.8 26.6 28.06
都給你出手到27.2次了 你不爭氣 只能怪數據公式爛
再來補個單季歷史PER前20
Rank Player PER Season Tm
1. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.82 1962-63 SFW
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.74 1961-62 PHW
3. Michael Jordan* 31.71 1987-88 CHI
4. LeBron James 31.67 2008-09 CLE
5. Michael Jordan* 31.63 1990-91 CHI
6. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.63 1963-64 SFW
7. LeBron James 31.59 2012-13 MIA
8. Michael Jordan* 31.18 1989-90 CHI
9. Michael Jordan* 31.14 1988-89 CHI
10. LeBron James 31.11 2009-10 CLE
11. Anthony Davis 30.81 2014-15 NOP
12. LeBron James 30.74 2011-12 MIA
13. David Robinson* 30.66 1993-94 SAS
14. Shaquille O'Neal 30.65 1999-00 LAL
15. Shaquille O'Neal 30.55 1998-99 LAL
16. Dwyane Wade 30.36 2008-09 MIA
17. Tracy McGrady 30.27 2002-03 ORL
18. Shaquille O'Neal 30.23 2000-01 LAL
19. Chris Paul 29.96 2008-09 NOH
20. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 29.94 1971-72 MIL
今年AD的怪物級表現 排在歷史第11
現役生涯PER前20
Rank Player PER
1. LeBron James 27.66
2. Chris Paul 25.63
3. Dwyane Wade 25.02
4. Kevin Durant 24.66
5. Tim Duncan 24.47
6. Dirk Nowitzki 23.26
7. Kobe Bryant 23.21
8. Kevin Garnett 22.77
9. Russell Westbrook 22.13
10. Dwight Howard 21.97
11. Amar'e Stoudemire 21.95
12. Pau Gasol 21.58
13. Carmelo Anthony 21.18
14. Manu Ginobili 21.10
15. Al Jefferson 20.75
16. Chris Bosh 20.58
17. Elton Brand 20.57
18. LaMarcus Aldridge 20.29
19. Paul Pierce 20.14
20. Vince Carter 19.75
歷史生涯前20
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.66
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
6. Chris Paul 25.63
7. Bob Pettit* 25.35
8. Dwyane Wade 25.02
9. Neil Johnston* 24.69
10. Kevin Durant 24.66
11. Charles Barkley* 24.63
12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
13. Tim Duncan 24.47
14. Magic Johnson* 24.11
15. Karl Malone* 23.90
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
17. Julius Erving* 23.58
18. Larry Bird* 23.50
19. Dirk Nowitzki 23.26
20. Kobe Bryant 23.21
其實KOBE也沒多差 生涯也有在歷史20名
只是前面一堆數據怪物 也沒啥好反駁這數據的
如果要比別的進階數據 說真的前幾個也是會在前面
如果還是要反駁PER 那對KOBE而言 所有的進階數據都是沒用的
因為排名不是更後面 就是20左右
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