又打臉紅粉 - 棒球閒聊

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By Barb Cronin
at 2021-11-10T11:55

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※ 引述《barry610171 (小小羊)》之銘言:
: 洪總表示,二軍比賽只剩下1場,讓年輕人拚看看,看能不能找出可以用的,就試看看
,?
: 陳真,其他3名野手都排進先發打線,洪總說:「上來就是要讓他們打,不是坐在旁邊
看?
: 」
: 戴培峰表示:

戴培峰今年幾乎整季都在一軍了

結果拿來跟昨天那幾個相提並論

邦寶的新聞解讀跟引戰功力有待提升......

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Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2021-11-05T18:41
因為他上半季都在旁邊看,下半季也久久用一次
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2021-11-10T13:15
不讓阿德上又可以嘴阿德出賽率 阿德痛痛怎麼說怎麼贏
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2021-11-05T18:41
難怪你們家二軍新秀常坐板凳
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2021-11-10T13:15
中肯!推第三句 邦寶本來邏輯就怪怪的
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2021-11-05T18:41
啊,沒注意到是你,我要避鋒芒了,謝謝你喜歡富邦
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2021-11-10T13:15
我看也只有邦寶會覺得戴能跟陳重羽廖建富齊頭吧
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2021-11-05T18:41
https://i.imgur.com/W0o3vGJ.jpg 先支援
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2021-11-10T13:15
打席有一場沒一場 要他怎麼好
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2021-11-05T18:41
暨n99之後新一代的邦迷stalker--V99大神出現了
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2021-11-10T13:15
戴培峰今年100個打席 除了他哪個一成打者有這麼多機會?
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2021-11-05T18:41
就是嘛 戴這麽爛 讓他下二軍啊 幹嘛上一軍坐旁邊看
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2021-11-10T13:15
不懂你反啥欸
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2021-11-05T18:41
leo是我爪吧 怎麼變富邦了?
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2021-11-10T13:15
邦迷評價一直都是 戴培峰>>>>>>>>>>>>張進德 要不然幹嘛一直吵
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2021-11-05T18:41
The devil finds work for idle hands to do.
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2021-11-10T13:15
很奇怪的邏輯 阿德可以一直蹲誰不讓他蹲?
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
不讓出賽他蹲怎麼會進步
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2021-11-10T13:15
我看你根本不懂邦邦吵的點啊
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2021-11-05T18:41
他們心底話不就是領北要戴培峰 非戴不上
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2021-11-10T13:15
*不讓他出賽 蹲補怎麼會進步
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我看你只是嫌這裡的邦邦吵而已吧 = =
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2021-11-10T13:15
邦邦真的兇阿
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2021-11-05T18:41
邦邦有張進德 戴培峰這種幸福煩惱 誰強誰上就好 吵個鳥
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2021-11-10T13:15
事實就是戴被張進德卡啊
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2021-11-05T18:41
邦邦二軍今年最多打席的是姚冠瑋 總共111打席
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2021-11-10T13:15
誰強誰上就好+1
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2021-11-05T18:41
邦邦沒反對戴去二軍出賽阿 林懂打得爛不就該換下來
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2021-11-10T13:15
你不去看林YY二軍蹲幾場 根本為酸而酸
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2021-11-05T18:41
就提張進德換林子豪你又不願意
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2021-11-10T13:15
邦邦真的兇? 是沒見識過恰粉的暴戾嗎?最兇的球迷 就是恰粉了
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2021-11-05T18:41
那不然張進德換何恆佑也行啦
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2021-11-10T13:15
戴打得爛又在一軍無法出賽 那就回二軍練啊
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2021-11-05T18:41
就說選阿德放槍啊 早知道選馬或選何
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2021-11-10T13:15
卡個屁 實力就沒到那 卡丟賽膩拉
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2021-11-05T18:41
一軍100個打席跟二軍111個打席 哪個對他幫助大
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2021-11-10T13:15
戴酸現在連二軍都不讓他去蹲 不如退團回家蹲
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
戴本來就是一軍ready的資質 打席不夠才讓他沒法調整
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2021-11-10T13:15
二軍比賽少又有其他人要養 下二軍拿到的打席不會比較多
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2021-11-05T18:41
戴下二軍打席不會比較多? 富邦是有幾個捕手..
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2021-11-10T13:15
所以我不懂你在哭啥 他們就是沒共識所以才吵
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2021-11-05T18:41
還是說戴粉認為為了養戴 其他捕手都可以放給他爛?
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2021-11-10T13:15
二軍打席有屁用能打一軍當然是一軍阿 二軍投手有鑑別度?
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2021-11-05T18:41
懂哥本來就該噴阿 那什麼擋球樣
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2021-11-10T13:15
爪爪打一堆二軍投手也沒變比較厲害
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2021-11-05T18:41
一輪的機會比四輪跟九輪少這才奇怪吧邦邦就常搞這齣 16-18的一輪機會少的可憐
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2021-11-10T13:15
二軍有用的話 楊晉豪早該練出來囉
William avatar
By William
at 2021-11-05T18:41
戴打這種爛到流湯的等級還能一直待一軍 紅中根本超愛他
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2021-11-10T13:15
戴看起來有像是一軍二號捕手嗎?雖然戴的確應該下去二軍練好再上
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2021-11-05T18:41
實在不懂對球員和球隊狀況都不清楚在酸啥
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2021-11-10T13:15
下去練是要練什麼?
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2021-11-05T18:41
至於一直喊張進德拿出去換的不知道是不是反串啦,要換也是
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2021-11-10T13:15
拿戴培峰出去換
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2021-11-05T18:41
成德大王直接拉 都比在二軍打一千打席好
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2021-11-10T13:15
妳自己搞不清楚狀況怪別人哭邀欸
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你不知道戴從選進來這三年幾乎整季都在一軍吧
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2021-11-10T13:15
你自己講的一知半解然後出來哭 不如乖乖等邦邦出來講
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我又不是邦邦 我只是來嘴砲你而且我不是講了嗎 擁戴的就是希望戴有實戰機會
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2021-11-10T13:15
清宮二軍練半天 還不是被新庄嘴胖打擊力道軟趴趴XD
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2021-11-05T18:41
講了一整季還看不出來問題啊?
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2021-11-10T13:15
你二號戴這樣用是真的不如用懂哥啊
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2021-11-05T18:41
讓戴這樣少少的機會上場還不如讓他二軍蹲到飽
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2021-11-10T13:15
有機會就可以上一軍 誰跟你叫做蹲一整年二軍
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2021-11-05T18:41
題外話我也很賭爛宋88的養成就是
David avatar
By David
at 2021-11-10T13:15
\唯一支持珍妮v葛/
George avatar
By George
at 2021-11-05T18:41
再一軍沒得出賽回二軍練 叫做蹲一整年二軍 呵呵
George avatar
By George
at 2021-11-10T13:15
為什麼一定要到一整年 阿德今年不是也有受傷 那段時間就
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2021-11-05T18:41
可以出賽阿
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2021-11-10T13:15
紅中這種用法真的害死他
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我看爪迷也很愛討論別隊選手阿,你們有比較懂別隊狀況?
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2021-11-10T13:15
非A即B的邏輯真的怪怪的0.0
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2021-11-05T18:41
紅中就短視近利啊 明明餵足pa戴就會打給你看
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2021-11-10T13:15
喔喔 紐吱好公道正義喔
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2021-11-05T18:41
打給你看,打再好會比張進德好嗎
George avatar
By George
at 2021-11-10T13:15
明明阿德也是一輪的 那有什麼卡不卡戴
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2021-11-05T18:41
很多人都看出你的問題 看樣子不是邦不邦迷的問題
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2021-11-10T13:15
年紀跟傷痛有差啊
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2021-11-05T18:41
而且你這個帳號好像只有討論到戴培峰會開出來
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2021-11-10T13:15
二軍蹲到飽 寶寶們又會靠邀了
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2021-11-05T18:41
捕手又不像內外野同時可以塞複數人 給他二軍蹲到飽是要棄養其他捕手嗎?
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2021-11-10T13:15
二軍蹲到飽的前提 大概就是阿德林懂狀況都很好吧
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2021-11-05T18:41
現在當阿德的替補也要靠邀
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2021-11-10T13:15
那現在用法沒錯啊 吃阿德剩的阿
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2021-11-05T18:41
根本沒人講讓戴二軍蹲到飽啊,有機會就上來一軍,一軍扛不住就下去二軍練好再上來,你放著有一場沒一場要幹嘛
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2021-11-10T13:15
張進德痛歸痛 也才28歲 正入巔峰期
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2021-11-05T18:41
公道正義?不敢當0.0
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2021-11-10T13:15
你會拿顛峰期捕手 然後讓戴當主戰才是最奇怪
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2021-11-05T18:41
阿德只會DH也是比很多人強吧
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2021-11-10T13:15
這邊對戴的主流論點是你一軍PA餵不夠不如直接給他二軍蹲好蹲滿
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2021-11-05T18:41
現在的問題是阿德DH 又一直懂哥
James avatar
By James
at 2021-11-10T13:15
我覺得其實你只是想酸戴是水貨吧 不用繞那麼大圈
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2021-11-05T18:41
對這邊的人來說 一軍PA幾乎等價二軍PA 但是到了別隊的議題又會說二軍成績沒辦法轉換到一軍 因為強度差太多
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2021-11-10T13:15
那篇在酸的是 護放一軍當三號溫板凳比去二軍吃PA好的人,所以你認同嗎 大大
Una avatar
By Una
at 2021-11-05T18:41
問題是你一軍如果只給蹲這樣的局數是真的不如用懂哥
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2021-11-10T13:15
v葛搞不清楚狀況也不是第一天了
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2021-11-05T18:41
懂哥今年也只有131PA
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2021-11-10T13:15
從來沒有人講過阿德不該一軍主戰 他待過美國8年耶問題他就不能每場蹲 但當不能蹲時紅中用的是其他替補對方有打擊就算了 但也沒有
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2021-11-05T18:41
沒想到有些爪迷也看不下去了
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2021-11-10T13:15
戴跟德平均分甚至戴多一點才是真的,阿德少蹲也是保護他不然又要痛惹笑死,我只能喵寶真的都自以為很懂別隊的狀況就跟總板一些護威助捧寶拉147也是喵喵
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你有護???? 別說笑了吧
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2021-11-10T13:15
風向一直都是這樣啊,你也很難說一號二號三號要分別幾場吧
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2021-11-05T18:41
懂哥不是九月中就下去了嗎
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2021-11-10T13:15
有些別隊覺得還好的事 其實自己球迷會很在意阿
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2021-11-05T18:41
不是 主流觀點是 戴捕前兩年都在二軍 今年就會在一軍蹲下去 阿德可以帶著戴進步
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2021-11-10T13:15
你以為的風向根本就不是別人的風向吧
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2021-11-05T18:41
前一年高薪簽的捕手分不到PA才奇怪吧董哥就是打不好 戴吃到剩的PA
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2021-11-10T13:15
還是你想當4X公道伯 呵呵
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2021-11-05T18:41
一軍不信任就去二軍蹲好蹲滿 到底哪裏有問題 哪裏有護?
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2021-11-10T13:15
我覺得問題是阿德就算痛 吃的PA也還算多
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你是不認同 放一軍當三號板凳比放二軍吃PA好這件事
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-11-10T13:15
對嗎ㄉˉㄉ
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2021-11-05T18:41
退下類,你什麼東西啊一指放一軍當三號補要裝飾是不是
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2021-11-10T13:15
亞隊跟爛隊聯手囉呵呵
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2021-11-05T18:41
其實阿德狀況不好時 跟其他捕手上也沒差別啊
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2021-11-10T13:15
繼續亞到飽跟搶狀元吧嗚嗚嗚嗚
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2021-11-05T18:41
問題是你邦DH也不能一直給張啊 范跟全都要用
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2021-11-10T13:15
張沒蹲時也幾乎沒DH過 不懂為什麼想問樓上宋88用法?
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我希望兩個都打三成然後6060啊,阿德還可以另外打DH,但有
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2021-11-10T13:15
這麼好算嗎?統一有在一號二號三號分別幾場的嗎
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2021-11-05T18:41
https://i.imgur.com/nNF7oTn.jpg呵呵
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2021-11-10T13:15
呵什麼,怒吃100PA很讚嗎
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2021-11-05T18:41
宋88在一軍只有代跑代守啊
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2021-11-10T13:15
也對 助瓜真的很奇怪 本來以為宋打不出來 但打擊不錯
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2021-11-05T18:41
100不夠喔 啊不然這樣好啦 富邦明年直接練兵一整年老將直
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2021-11-10T13:15
接丟二軍好不好?
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2021-11-05T18:41
尤其他打得正好那時又不讓他先發和上場
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2021-11-10T13:15
哪來的腦子認為想溫鬧的球隊會放一個一成年輕捕手下去打到爽呵呵
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2021-11-05T18:41
蕭拉上來幾場都他的一半了 戴是整年分散的PA不要只會看數字好嗎
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2021-11-10T13:15
不就左投才輪到他上 其他代跑代守
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2021-11-05T18:41
為什麼不全部一次噴懂哥+蕭+姚卡戴,那些機會全吐出給戴,戴不就變一號捕手的待遇了XD
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2021-11-10T13:15
戴的問題是手套撐不住二號,打擊也沒有表現。現階段與其把焦點放在阿德,不如來看戴蕭姚三人誰能爭二號
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2021-11-05T18:41
喵的二號還比較少XD
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2021-11-10T13:15
笑死,那戰績拉開戴有開始有比較多機會嗎
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2021-11-05T18:41
不過這一篇文章從標題就說要嘴洪粉了,我想戴蕭姚孰優孰劣
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2021-11-10T13:15
應該不是題目
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2021-11-05T18:41
有些邦寶跟極少數不知哪來的爪寶就認為戴那種成績繼續給他下去打就會變好啊嘿嘿
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2021-11-10T13:15
裡面還10多場是代守代跑XD
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我看你不知道戴今年很多是用代打代守上場的欸
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2021-11-10T13:15
拉開後給他上有打比較好嗎?ops高蕭多少要不要自己看?
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
真以為順位高就很多時間慢慢來喔順位高的就給他更多時間機會哪來的競爭?
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-11-10T13:15
有從2019開始看比賽的會不知道誰的配球、阻殺和打擊天花板高?搞到有一餐沒一餐手感冷再等臨時要用
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By Irma
at 2021-11-05T18:41
嘴他水貨真的好公平
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By Agatha
at 2021-11-10T13:15
一指不給多機會,難道要學爪爪自培卡正CF喔,笑死
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2021-11-05T18:41
哪隊不給順位高機會多點 說來聽聽 就是爪
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2021-11-10T13:15
爪(駒)喵(羽)吱(嚴)的二號捕手打席大概就100左右,講真的要噴也是噴懂+蕭+姚這種沒未來的卡啥鬼
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2021-11-05T18:41
戴就是狀元 不然你去叫螃蟹承認選秀失敗
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By Hedwig
at 2021-11-10T13:15
一指不多練,要在那邊分少少PA,那當初一指選心酸的
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2021-11-05T18:41
沒有多給嗎? PA數不是貼了?
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2021-11-10T13:15
還是你們想看這種成績的人上去打好打滿400PA XD
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2021-11-05T18:41
100很多喔? 那你還是去跟包莖作伴吧
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2021-11-10T13:15
喵寶最近負能量太多了喔
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2021-11-05T18:41
喵也用榜眼選了二號捕 捕手就是這麼難養
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2021-11-10T13:15
喵寶吃飽太閒開始檢討其他隊阿XD
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By Frederica
at 2021-11-05T18:41
其實重羽也只有110
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By Necoo
at 2021-11-10T13:15
這有啥 爪洋教不也MJ 吳明鴻叫上來試 這有啥 大驚小怪
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2021-11-05T18:41
以前還會有說高卒直接推上去可能被RUSH到怎麼現在巴不得直接一軍吃PA吃到爽XD
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2021-11-10T13:15
戴都選進來多久了 www
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By Hamiltion
at 2021-11-05T18:41
高順位上來也是要用表現爭取更多機會
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2021-11-10T13:15
以前是哪個以前 你講的誰是誰
Una avatar
By Una
at 2021-11-05T18:41
陳重羽也只有110 是在不滿什麼?
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By Agnes
at 2021-11-10T13:15
喵隊那個二號捕手成績沒跟一號差很多啊,戴的問題是一軍打
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By Kyle
at 2021-11-05T18:41
不出來,他看起來跟其他墊檔捕手差不多,那就二軍練好再上啊,退一百步講他一軍打不出來但天花板總高一點吧
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By Suhail Hany
at 2021-11-10T13:15
選進來多久了喔wwwww
John avatar
By John
at 2021-11-05T18:41
那怎麼還有人在用新人的標準看待他XD就真的爪迷最難溝通欸XD活該繼續亞 舒服wwwww
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2021-11-10T13:15
打守都不夠出色就很麻煩
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-11-05T18:41
幹嘛連續用一指選兩個捕手 一個要養 一個痛痛
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By Zenobia
at 2021-11-10T13:15
與其說戴培峰是不是三號,倒不如說富邦根本沒有二號
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By Freda
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你應該去怪打教五吱羊給你戴打擊很強的錯覺 該醒了拉
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By Hazel
at 2021-11-10T13:15
乾爪什麼事
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By Kristin
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你好意思說人家難溝通喔XD
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By Yedda
at 2021-11-10T13:15
看看自己講三小再來說話好嗎
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By Doris
at 2021-11-05T18:41
搢儦躩奡I打擊這麼凶 以為戴起碼也會有廖的六成七成吧看到 廖健富 打擊這麼凶
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2021-11-10T13:15
好啦 那我好意思說爪是亞軍隊 可以嗎wwwwww
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2021-11-05T18:41
打不出來就說有一Pa沒一pa沒有手感。但戴也不是有職業實績的球員可以一直暢打。所以現在很多人說要他下二軍
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By Bethany
at 2021-11-10T13:15
沒問題啊XD 我自己都在講惹,你是不是以為這樣就比較有說服力
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By Dora
at 2021-11-05T18:41
現在中職捕手又不能像其他位置拼全勤,拼全勤配球變僵化又容易痛痛,有好的為啥不能連續選XD
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By Andy
at 2021-11-10T13:15
亞軍就亞軍阿 所以哩 自己搞不清楚出來亂放炮哩
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By Regina
at 2021-11-05T18:41
富邦沒有二號那還花錢養懂哥幹嘛
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By Genevieve
at 2021-11-10T13:15
球迷大亂鬥就是好看
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2021-11-05T18:41
近10年牛-犀牛-悍將蹲最多的捕手就是林懂
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By Hamiltion
at 2021-11-10T13:15
是不是只差油油沒出來報隊了
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By Ida
at 2021-11-05T18:41
邦邦在阿德進來之前就YY/戴,阿德進來之後應該要變成德/戴。之前YY成一大堆PA靠北紅中算有道理。只是現在戴要跟蕭姚爭二號捕真的是意料不到
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By Annie
at 2021-11-10T13:15
笑死你從頭到尾廢話,也只有亞軍這點我很認同,其他沒有任何一點價值
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By Olive
at 2021-11-05T18:41
放大絕只會說亞軍,沒料的人果然就是沒料wwww
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By Catherine
at 2021-11-10T13:15
一號捕手3成,其他全部不到2成,那誰該當二號?戴培峰如果今天打2成5又有水準以上守備那還有道理,問題戴也不是富邦表現第二好的捕手
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By Zanna
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我是覺得很奇怪啦 整天說啥資質 一軍ready 那種攻守表現跟我說是這樣???好歹ops打個.5嘛 .3的跟我說有資質?兌換哪去了?還是跟那群邦寶一樣全部推給教練搞壞?然後再莫名其妙靠北無辜球員?其他球員給你們這樣糟蹋的喔呵呵
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2021-11-10T13:15
擋球都擋不好 阻殺看不到阿德車尾燈
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2021-11-05T18:41
那你自信點講出來 你就是認為戴是水貨啊
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By Damian
at 2021-11-10T13:15
護一個現在沒實績球員然後去酸一個有表現的球員也是一絕啦嘖嘖
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By Isla
at 2021-11-05T18:41
這篇大混戰欸WWWW
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2021-11-10T13:15
守備真像爪宋一軍ready了 還會怕沒出場機會喔QQ
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2021-11-05T18:41
對啊 我就覺得戴是水貨啊怎樣 跟你爪岳一樣呵呵
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2021-11-10T13:15
你說宋? 這個例子不好吧
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By Lucy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
所以戴沒上場根本沒問題啊,差別在你要就讓他一軍硬上到打出來,或是乖乖下二軍練,不要有一場沒一場,今天戴是狀元,期待的天花板本來就跟蕭姚不一樣,我覺得戴的用法很怪,但問題根本不是機會太少
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By Zenobia
at 2021-11-10T13:15
戴擋球阻殺一回事,我是覺得他控場還抓不到眉角,常常有被對方帶著跑的感覺
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By Zanna
at 2021-11-05T18:41
扯我岳幹嘛
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By Jacky
at 2021-11-10T13:15
潑髒水XD 不要戳破人家,不然假中立怎麼演下去
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By Charlotte
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我覺得岳是水貨啊 不是嗎?XD不能講喔XD
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By Megan
at 2021-11-10T13:15
人家公道伯,左談富邦右談兄弟,你各位跪安啊可以啊,大聲講沒問題
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2021-11-05T18:41
擋球阻殺都不行 控場也不行 你他媽到底什麼行
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By Robert
at 2021-11-10T13:15
以後直接講出來 不用拐彎抹角阿
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By Christine
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我岳是打擊不到預期 守備還是有貢獻的
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2021-11-10T13:15
沒問題就好 想說怎麼有爪爪在質疑呵呵
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2021-11-05T18:41
還是你們先溝通一下可不可以講
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2021-11-10T13:15
承認現在這實力出場數比陳重羽多就該偷笑了好嗎
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2021-11-05T18:41
宋是我講的
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2021-11-10T13:15
你用場數當判定幾號捕手嗎邦的狀況很難用場數來判定欸
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By Agatha
at 2021-11-05T18:41
東扯西扯欸 想酸爪就明講 不用借著戴來酸
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By Blanche
at 2021-11-10T13:15
原本沒想酸爪啊 哪知道這幾天爪又出來亂XD
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By Olga
at 2021-11-05T18:41
爪出來亂XDDDD 真是敢說欸
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By Vanessa
at 2021-11-10T13:15
原本酸邦酸的很開心欸XD
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By Blanche
at 2021-11-05T18:41
https://i.imgur.com/OZ74eC2.jpg
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2021-11-10T13:15
是不是亞軍的PTSD先發作了啊?好奇問一下XD
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By Kumar
at 2021-11-05T18:41
爪應該去幫林吳打抱不平 戴這種身手都能一軍唉
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2021-11-10T13:15
欸那幹嘛酸邦啦~
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2021-11-05T18:41
阿德受傷時 1:YY 2:戴 後來阿德回來 拉蕭上來 蕭:2
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By Aaliyah
at 2021-11-10T13:15
我幫邦邦的理想 一周五場 阿德3 戴2 這樣配
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By Gilbert
at 2021-11-05T18:41
擋球跟戴差不多爛 傳球略勝 控場一樣菜 打擊差不多QQ
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2021-11-10T13:15
我講過了啊 對邦寶那群護戴護到瘋掉去糟蹋其他球員很不爽XD
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你只會扯亞軍還會哪招 zzzZZZ
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By Blanche
at 2021-11-10T13:15
爪板板主生氣囉
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2021-11-05T18:41
但事實是今年戴40幾場裡 有10多場是替補上場的
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2021-11-10T13:15
扯亞迷社會事件可以嗎?
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我是支持戴下去啦,但如果德戴3:2,硬讓戴打下去也ok,就期待能突然長出來,不然這成績沒上場說真的一點都不奇怪
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By Dorothy
at 2021-11-10T13:15
也是啦,阿德這成績哪有卡誰的道路,戴自己要加油啊卡誰的道理*
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-11-05T18:41
會有人說教練惡搞才這樣的啊 順便左踩張進德 右踢其他對內捕手XD
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2021-11-10T13:15
為啥這篇後面變爪喵大戰XDDD
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
奇怪的是戴打擊爛到不行 為什麼不能試其他人
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2021-11-10T13:15
申之前打擊爛到不行 洪中還給他上 變成洪中催殘信心XD
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By Sierra Rose
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我也來好了 理想的蹲補分配是德10場 其他都給戴蹲好蹲滿不論成績如何 受傷情況除外 這樣那群邦寶最爽XD
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By Quanna
at 2021-11-10T13:15
就雙標啊 不過我就很好奇使他們雙標的原因就是XD
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By Belly
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你這個比例也是戴打出成績之後的事啊,現在戴下去邦迷可能也沒什麼意見,只是還沒放棄戴才會吵戴的機會而已
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2021-11-10T13:15
原因就狀元兩個字啊,隔壁一樣狀元捕手屠殺聯盟,富邦狀元捕手連在聯盟活下去都有問題
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2021-11-05T18:41
要戴打出成績要先給他打好打滿啊 不然根據某群人說法有一場沒一場怎麼打出來XD
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2021-11-10T13:15
那也太可憐 好歹都是一輪 差一順位而已欸哭哭
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By Hamiltion
at 2021-11-05T18:41
邦狀元當初的賣點是守備阿 誰知道守備...
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2021-11-10T13:15
不只守備落漆 今年打擊還比10輪才撿的捕手慘
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By Frederic
at 2021-11-05T18:41
UJ有陣子守備也爛掉啦 戴就給他練 反正現在邦一軍也開練了
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2021-11-10T13:15
覺得他不夠格在一軍就下二軍練阿,餵二軍pa也不行嗎XD
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2021-11-05T18:41
那這樣是不是要問一下一二軍的升降是誰負責的啊?
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2021-11-10T13:15
以前洪一中在LM被罵不給誰機會,現在換到別隊就說球員爛了
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2021-11-05T18:41
還好啦 至少不會去糟蹋其他球員
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2021-11-10T13:15
戴逐月打席https://i.imgur.com/sprcK3j.jpg
William avatar
By William
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我就問3-5月單月平均2場出賽,這要算幾號捕手?
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2021-11-10T13:15
V葛躲起來了喔
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2021-11-05T18:41
七八月怒打五個打席http://i.imgur.com/4ZNNvyx.jpg
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2021-11-10T13:15
這是你喵二號捕
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By Genevieve
at 2021-11-05T18:41
單月平均兩場,兩個月怒打五打席,V葛:有看數據,不爽來辨
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2021-11-10T13:15
重羽喔,你要不要看你們一號捕岱安出賽數阿
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By Skylar Davis
at 2021-11-05T18:41
理想的話德:戴:others2 2 1
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2021-11-10T13:15
V葛你這句話不就是要說戴打不出來而已
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2021-11-05T18:41
如果是120 就 50:50:20
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2021-11-10T13:15
打出來的定義是要比張進德好嗎?
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2021-11-05T18:41
老四隊的二號捕手 其實都是一號撿剩的阿
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2021-11-10T13:15
奇怪了 西加加怎麼不出個聲列一下場次?你最愛的帝王戴補耶
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我覺得是類似陳智弘跟陳+g啦 一般而言主戰一定吃
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2021-11-10T13:15
講不過就在邦寶邦寶跳針xd 連其他隊都要看不下去了還在那邊嘴硬
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2021-11-05T18:41
大多數 一定都是一號吃略多 二號三號輪
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2021-11-10T13:15
所以你繞來繞去就只是想講這成績還能待一軍不錯了,不就這樣嘛XD
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
不用包裝那麼多XD 還什麼開坦,大膽講出來
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2021-11-10T13:15
什麼優越感會讓你產生別人講的都不行然後你自己就好像是中職公道伯一樣xd
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By Bennie
at 2021-11-05T18:41
是自信,我稱作自信
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By Todd Johnson
at 2021-11-10T13:15
是在笑罵紅中選德溫鬧 然後球隊成績不好啦
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你就不是鄉民幹話喔,笑死XD
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By Candice
at 2021-11-10T13:15
不用繞來繞去就直接講這成績還有100PA,不錯了,下去,這才對嘛
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2021-11-05T18:41
好樣的分配,3個月平均兩場,兩個月總共五打席,這分配真的很好,我建議各隊一定要效法V葛認同的玩法
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By Leila
at 2021-11-10T13:15
平常認真討論定義是什麼XD 你要不要舉幾個人名出來,公道伯還可以分類其他公道伯嗎
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2021-11-05T18:41
啊各位,有被公道伯分類成認真討論的等下去拿個獎狀啊,只有我們公道伯認同的才叫認真討論
William avatar
By William
at 2021-11-10T13:15
笑死,我什麼時候說叫別隊開季直接放推惹,你公道伯增加幻想技能的是吧
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2021-11-05T18:41
V公道伯真公道伯,不但可以幻想出別隊球迷要富邦下半季開季放推,還能分類認真討論的族群
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2021-11-10T13:15
扯去其他地方了 不繼續講戴了嗎
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2021-11-05T18:41
耖俗辣,你先講我什麼時候叫富邦下半季放推的
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2021-11-10T13:15
笑死 沒有說到你想中意聽的就逃走了
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2021-11-05T18:41
繞一堆廢話就是不肯正視三月平均兩場,兩個月合計五打席,然後中間還有兩個二軍的上來他變替補要說三號補根本也OK你要說二號補也可以,我尊重,不過你可以找一下要放推的
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2021-11-10T13:15
證據在哪嗎,穴穴
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2021-11-05T18:41
順便定義一下你說認真討論的名單好嗎,公道伯
James avatar
By James
at 2021-11-10T13:15
欸公道伯,你的認真討論名單跟說要放推的證據呢
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2021-11-05T18:41
證據呢,什麼時候拿出來啊
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2021-11-10T13:15
請公道伯快點提出來喔,不然都叫別人回答,自己放的屁都不敢承認
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2021-11-05T18:41
別跟亞寶爭了 一群亞軍PTSD的zzzz
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2021-11-10T13:15
我前面講過了啊XD 你沒眼睛嗎倒是你自己講的話到現在一句回答都沒有,笑死人
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你到底什麼時候要講一下我說要富邦下半季放推啊
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2021-11-10T13:15
還是你要一直忽視XD
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2021-11-05T18:41
笑死,我幹話,你造謠嗎?還摸人家兩顆類,先去檢查自己吧
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2021-11-10T13:15
邦寶超氣xddddd
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2021-11-05T18:41
戴的用法不是三號捕手嗎 我覺得很像欸下半季才覺得該給戴多吃了 才變像二號吧
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2021-11-10T13:15
不是都跟你戴今年很多場次是因為替補上場的他的意思不就是邦用戴用的很像三號捕手還是你理解有問題?
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我說他的用法就三號捕手啊XD 前面月平均兩場,還有兩個月五打席前面也講了就你在那邊跳針
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2021-11-10T13:15
倒是你什麼時候要解釋什麼叫下半季放推,什麼叫認真討論名單
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2021-11-05T18:41
他的理解真的有問題,然後很想摸人家蛋蛋,那你要解釋沒,還是你沒摸到你的
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2021-11-10T13:15
你就造謠啊XDDDD 我覺得富邦戴機會給太少不等於我叫富邦
David avatar
By David
at 2021-11-05T18:41
下半季放推,你沒軟蛋想摸人家蛋,只會造謠
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2021-11-10T13:15
原來讓戴上叫做放推喔
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
他的邏輯大概跟爪版牡蠣迷一樣,叫大師兄上來等於放推,因為大師兄也是一成
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-11-10T13:15
直接超譯,厲害了0.0
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你就超譯啊XDDDD 說人家叫富邦放推結果屁證據都沒有,還想摸人家蛋蛋,變態
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2021-11-10T13:15
還談邏輯,笑死人
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2021-11-05T18:41
那是啥證據?
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2021-11-10T13:15
V葛崩潰史?
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2021-11-05T18:41
聯盟攻守最好的捕手冰著不用 用112這不叫放推XD
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2021-11-10T13:15
那我爪用強漢算不算放推
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2021-11-05T18:41
4大飛想被摸蛋嗎,敢刺激他
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2021-11-10T13:15
是女的我才考慮給摸
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2021-11-05T18:41
真變態XD
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2021-11-10T13:15
按你標準用岳東華不也放推 聯盟攻守最好的SS操好操滿
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2021-11-05T18:41
那是V葛邏輯,用一成等於放推
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2021-11-10T13:15
差這麼多 說爪放推 虧你還是爪迷...
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我是用V葛邏輯啊……
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2021-11-10T13:15
你直接白話叫邦迷進場抗議叫邦邦釋出給我爪用就好了啊
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2021-11-05T18:41
何必吵一堆呢 這戴戴就能上好上滿 皆大歡喜 邦爪一家親
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2021-11-10T13:15
這位喵寶很閒唷 這麼愛管他隊球迷的事 住海邊?
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2021-11-05T18:41
他的標準叫江坤宇滾去二軍練打擊 讓強漢站才是放推吧
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2021-11-10T13:15
誰超譯呢XD
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2021-11-05T18:41
邦迷自己進場抗議嘴張進德你有臉在那蹲阿 給壓力阿
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2021-11-10T13:15
請問從哪裡看到我和sue叫江去二軍?
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2021-11-05T18:41
我暗諷XD 摸蛋哥真會造謠
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2021-11-10T13:15
人家喵迷不就這樣幹甘蔗的 學學人家 釋出我爪收
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2021-11-05T18:41
還是你喜歡用強漢 > 岳 呵呵
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2021-11-10T13:15
不過這篇留給討論戴就好 要討論爪的請另外自己開一篇
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
討論爪強漢的戰場不就你們自己開的XD
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2021-11-10T13:15
強漢就助老闆愛將 用他放推在哪? 公三小阿
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
大餅冠軍賽用江亮緯 大餅在放推? 反觀用詹大牌的XD
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2021-11-10T13:15
你在別篇同意hopper說的放戴到二軍別隊更爽,這篇又超譯戴上更多就是等於富邦放推,不是自打臉?XD
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2021-11-05T18:41
所以你到底覺得戴是什麼等級的?https://i.imgur.com/RQAAgWZ.jpg
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2021-11-10T13:15
自打臉,造謠,摸蛋,跳針
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2021-11-05T18:41
T你要不要摸摸你覽趴想想你在公三小
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2021-11-10T13:15
回去多看幾遍推文 再不行就去夜補校補中文記得揪V葛團報 說不定有打折
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2021-11-05T18:41
你還是回爪版就好了啦ZZZ
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2021-11-10T13:15
戰到爆文了XDD
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2021-11-05T18:41
假如戴培峰有全明星身手那還有得吵 整天畫唬爛在那做夢
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2021-11-10T13:15
做夢行情該醒了啦
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2021-11-05T18:41
金宣虎都洗白了還壓力這麼大喔
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2021-11-10T13:15
文盲不是你嗎XD
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2021-11-05T18:41
摸蛋仔
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2021-11-10T13:15
還好啦 至少人家不會吵一吵就說要摸人蛋啊 可怕
James avatar
By James
at 2021-11-05T18:41
4X竟然可以爆文@@
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2021-11-10T13:15
推文太長了有沒有懶人包啊
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2021-11-05T18:41
很清楚你不是造謠腦補就是摸蛋
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2021-11-10T13:15
其實我比較好奇的是…..本來不是在跟邦戰嗎 怎最後是在跟爪XDDD
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2021-11-05T18:41
這id整天只會針對邦 水準跟某包莖仔愈來愈像了
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2021-11-10T13:15
大概是看邦迷少好欺負吧 在那邊裝公道伯好棒棒啊
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2021-11-05T18:41
邦邦好欺負?524:……….扯爪?
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2021-11-10T13:15
邦迷要怎麼吵也輪不到喵寶來干涉啦 每隊都有寶寶 一直
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2021-11-05T18:41
邦寶來邦寶去然後說沒針對 真的快跟某包莖仔一樣了

洪中

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By Aaliyah
at 2021-11-10T11:13
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看不出動作是不是盲的?

Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2021-11-10T10:42
從小看棒球 但我看不太出動作 昨天有人說王苡丞打擊動作很像王柏融 嗯 我真的不知道從哪裏判斷 雖然我也沒仔細看王柏融的打擊動作 除了準備時那個搖動球棒的動作有特色 可以判斷像誰學誰之外 還有誰投球姿勢像誰 我也看不出來 感到挫折 5555555555 - ...

我邦狀元之路

Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2021-11-10T10:32
※ 引述《beautyptt (安安)》之銘言: : 這名單比較意外是岳少華 雖然他二軍成績不錯 : 但數據更好的還有陽強森和李子強 : 不過看得出來岳少華個性蠻秀的 加上幾局是越投越好 : 才剛選進來就看得出來潛力 搞不好是2/3個曾峻岳 : 但至少也等完整春訓 : 是說曾要下就下 還在那邊等再投一局 不知 ...

陳冠宇

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By Yedda
at 2021-11-10T10:22
先發不行 中繼也不太行 下一個角色484變成CP了呢? 70萬阿.... - ...

如果貓布調換球隊才能判斷誰好吧

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By John
at 2021-11-10T10:22
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