三個時代的第一人 - NBA

By John
at 2019-08-30T06:27
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※ 引述《AizenSousuke (可愛婊子)》之銘言:
: Kobe當過聯盟第一人?
2006-2010 Kobe是不是聯盟第一人見仁見智啦各說各的
不過美國媒體BBALLREALM有票選2000~2017 聯盟第一人名單
Shaq 2000-2003
Kobe 2007-2009
LBJ 2010-2017
2006季後賽 把當年西區第二的太陽打到搶七
當年除了Kobe Odom外 其他的隊員有誰 Smush Parker Chris Mihm Kwame Brown
這陣容應該不會有人說比黑暗時期的騎士的陣容還強吧?
2007~2010連續三年讓爵士在季後賽打包回家
那三年有新的黃金四少Deron Williams Carlos Boozer Andrei Kirilenko Mehmet Okur
2007 4-1季後賽淘汰馬刺
PPG FG% RPG APG SPG
Kobe Bryant 29.2 53.3 5.6 3.8 1.6
Pau Gasol 13.2 44.6 9.6 3.6 1.0 <--在此之前季後賽從沒贏過馬刺
Lamar Odom 12.8 40.4 9.6 2.8 0.2
Tim Duncan 22.4 42.6 17.4 4.8 1.2
該年馬刺防守全聯盟第三 還有個防守第一隊 DPOY第二名的Bruce Bowen
更不用說Kobe只要持球常常會被馬刺Double team
那年湖人也沒三塔 Bynum受傷根本沒打
2007~2010連續三年打進總冠軍賽 總冠軍二連霸 FMVP二連霸 一次年度MVP
: 隨便抓幾個同期的KG,詹皇,TD,dirk,都不輸
總冠軍 MVP FMVP 年度一隊 防守一隊 MVP票選前五
Kobe Bryant 2 1 2 4 4 4
Tim Duncan 1 0 0 1 2 1
LeBron James 0 2 0 3 2 4
Kevin Garnett 1 0 0 1 2 1
Dirk Nowitzki 0 1 0 2 0 1
如果講的是大家討論的2006~2010時期的話
完全看不出其他四人有明顯贏過Kobe的可能
: 沒有歐肥三塔獨自帶隊就0.67輪,然後哭哭說沒有大腿就要吹me,身為球隊的領袖可以這
: 麼沒有擔當嗎?
不要否認一個事實2007-08賽季,Gasol加盟湖人之前,湖人早就拿過西區第一的位置
而且當時賽季已經將近進行一半,Bynum季中受傷
湖人當時西區第四跟西區第一太陽也只有三場勝差
另外認真算起來所謂的湖人三塔例行賽2007~2010季賽總共只在一起打了六場
Bynum 六場總上場時間連65分鐘都不到
更不用說季後賽Bynum第一年季中就整季報銷沒打
第二年 Pts Reb Ast FG% (總冠軍數據)
6.0 4.2 0.6 36.4
第三年 7.4 5.1 0.0 45.2
然而Lamar Odom 加入湖人前 有幾個人覺得他是塔 怎麼一到湖人就變塔了?
塔塔塔 塔你妹啦 靠三塔?? 要酸之前數據都不會查好 去吃蛋塔吧
: 然後湖人二連霸時期我就不想說了。你給詹皇配一個Keven Love就可以3%逆轉跑死歐肥的
: 創世勇,更何況kobe有gasol和Bynum。況且kobe的投籃命中率真的不好看
Kobe Gasol Bynum 三位同時上場的時間少之又少 你這樣也能掰
: 08-09季賽命中率0.467
: 08-09季後賽命中率0.457
: 09-10季賽命中率0.456
: 09-10季後賽命中率0.458
: 這數據根本被詹皇帝電假的==
位置不同你也能比
抓一下這兩年NBA一些SG的FG%
季賽 季後賽
Kobe Bryant 46.2 45.7 總冠軍*2
Dwyane Wade 48.4 49.1 季後賽第一輪/第二輪
Tracy McGrady 38.8
Vince Carter 43.3 40.2
Monta Ellis 44.9
Joe Johnson 44.7 40.1
Allen Iverson 42.1
Manu ginobili 44.5 41.4
FG%除了輸給同位置的Wade外 有明顯輸給誰嗎?
: 還有2010總決賽第七戰湖人全場37罰(綠賽只有17罰)超誇張,總冠軍賽還可以罰成這樣
你是不是忘了有2006年總冠軍賽Wade的97罰
一個人罰的比小牛全隊還多
照你的邏輯這是不是誇張到靠北
: 。其中kobe6-24搶走gasol的fmvp
: 所以真的不要再說kobe當過第一人了。
那場跟Kobe對位的Pierce15中5 Ray Allen14中3
10年finals GmSc值Kobe18.7 Gasol18.6 給老大FMVP是偷
還是說FMVP只看一場來定論?
如果是這樣的話 那歷史上應該還有三場的FMVP要變動了
1. 2010-11 NBA FMVP:Dirk Nowitzki
關鍵第六場
Player MP FG-FGA 3P-3PA FT-FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS +/-
Nowitzki 38:54 9-27 1-7 2-2 0 11 11 1 2 0 2 4 21 -4
Jason Terry 33:56 11-16 3-7 2-4 1 2 3 2 2 0 3 1 27 +13
2. 2007-08 NBA FMVP:Paul Pierce
關鍵第六場
Player MP FG-FGA 3P-3PA FT-FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS +/-
Pierce 38:35 4-13 2-7 7-8 1 2 3 10 2 0 2 2 17 +35
Garnett 35:39 10-18 0-1 6-7 3 11 14 4 3 1 0 2 26 +32
Ray Allen 32:23 8-12 7-9 3-3 1 3 4 2 3 0 1 0 26 +23
3. 2004-05 NBA FMVP:Tim Duncan
關鍵第七場
Player MP FG-FGA 3P-3PA FT-FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS +/-
Tim Duncan 42:00 10-27 0-0 5-6 5 6 11 3 0 2 5 2 25 +1
Ginobili 35:00 8-13 2-2 5-5 0 5 5 4 1 0 3 3 23 +5
如果要拿MVP來評斷第一人的話Shaq也只有一座MVP
如果要拿TD來說帶隊能力的話
Kobe可是贏有TD馬刺最多次的球員還有平均得分最高的球員
有時候看久了就會發現會有一些覺青為了反對而反對...
不過Kobe因為形象問題丟了很多對於他有利的評價及隱含在背後損失的商業價值和影響力
至於要說第一人標準,其實既不是數據,也不是專家怎麼看
而是這個球員拿到球的一刻,你就知道這回合已經結束了
從2006~2010 Kobe不管是靠個人還是靠團隊 實現了偉大球員所有重要成就的突破
(對比賽的影響力、實力、成功程度、技巧等)
就這幾年綜合多個標準來看也挑不出哪個人可以壓住Kobe
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