UFC 210 Weight-in - 綜合格鬥 Mixed Martial Arts
By Todd Johnson
at 2017-04-28T06:17
at 2017-04-28T06:17
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原文恕刪
其實b大在上一篇已經講得很清楚了
只是小弟今天剛好看到'Big' John McCarthy針對這件事又做了評論 很多論點我蠻贊同的
所以決定簡略截錄幾段給大家參考(只會講述大意 不會逐字翻)
不過在這之前 先讓我們釐清一下觀念:
只有在你的"拳頭"或/和"手掌"碰觸地面才會構成非法膝擊的條件
至於為什麼會這樣規定 等會後面會提到
Brian Stann之前在影片中也有提到
(我覺得這影片也非常值得拿來一起參考 只是本文會著重在Big John的論點)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf2ahuYgA7o
@0:16
"The rules are clear, and there is no excuse for this thing to be so confused.
It is fists, or palms, or the combination fo the two. Period. There are no
figertips. There's no just touching the mat with both hands."
回到正文 接下來讓我們來聽聽Big John的見解
(建議可以有時間可以把它看完 裡頭也有幫Dan Miragliotta抱屈
說他是因為角度問題而無法看到事情的全貌而有誤判的情形
但本文重點會放在fighter本身的心態上
以及如果之後遇到這種局面最佳的應對方法為何)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHTBfKidf4I
@3:03
"We want a fighters to get away from what they are doing. In that stuation, we
want Chris Weidman (to) put your knee to the ground. Use your hands to defend
yourself. That's what they're there for. We don't want you to put your hands on
the ground. You're open to get your head to get uppercut in the first role."
@4:29
"Mousasi is the guy who got screwed over except for the ending. Because Mousasi
does things that are all legal for him to do. ... Chris will say 'I'm hurt' ...
and now they're taking him away from you to hurt you more and giving you time
to recover for something that was legal. That's bad."
@6:03
"If you're on your feet, and you want it to make yourself grounded by putting
your hands down, you'll have to put both hands--palms down or fists down
bearing weight--to make yourself grounded. So what I'm telling you is that:
don't ever f*cking do that."
@6:34
"And we did that in putting that rule in place because we didn't want someone
that was hurt falling forward and have a guy be able to come up and sucker kick
upon them to the face."
@7:48
"And Chris's corner is telling him 'Chris, you have time; Chris, stay down.'
They're milking something for their fighter ... And Chris is listening to them"
@8:24 (這個超好笑XD)
"He (ringside physician) said, 'what month is this?' And Chris said, 'Febuary.'
... But right away when they came back and said, 'Hey, that's good.' He said,
'It's April 8th.' ... He played himself into a loss."
@9:23
"If you're not hurt, don't play hurt. ... And if you're not hurt, get ready to
fight. Be there for what you're there for."
簡單來說
會有拳頭或手掌觸地的情形 通常是因為某位選手在受到傷害時(ex: concussion)
因為暈眩或是生理上的痛苦而"自然地"往前倒
這項規則是為了防止選手受到二次傷害而訂下的
絕對不是為了讓選手刻意用這條規則來躲避傷害或是讓對方lose by DQ
當你遇到像Chris那樣的情況 本能的反應應該是趕快用雙手擋住自己的臉防止被膝擊
而不是刻意用你的指尖輕觸地面 然後詐傷 試著利用這些外在因素來讓自己獲勝
有些人覺得裁判不應該改變判決 這樣對Chris不公平
但其實真正受害的是Mousasi 因為他被奪走了一個clean TKO win
如果Chris真的一開始被膝擊到月份都分不清楚 而且那個膝擊最後證明是合法的
那Mousasi win by TKO完全沒問題
醫生在基於相信你的情況下 當然要保護你免於更進一步的傷害
而且讓你直接繼續比賽更是對對方不公平
因為你額外多了5min的時間來恢復體力並且重新調整狀態 而這5min本來一開始就不該有的
這就好像提供每個被KO的選手5min看能不能站起來 可以的話就繼續比賽是一樣的道裡
"Be there for what you're there for."
我覺得是Big John想傳達給大家一個很重要的觀念
MMA是一個非常危險的運動 絕對不是一般人隨隨便便就可以踏進的領域
除了比賽前宛如魔鬼特訓般的training camp + dieting + weight cut
比賽時的mentality也很重要
"Kill or be killed"
我覺得是一個true warrior在踏進octagon前就要有的覺悟
這也是為什麼我們在看Lawler vs Condit會有種莫名的感動
尤其是他們最後都累到趴在牆邊時 可以感受到他們真的left everything in the octagon
一點小小的心得與大家分享~
--
其實b大在上一篇已經講得很清楚了
只是小弟今天剛好看到'Big' John McCarthy針對這件事又做了評論 很多論點我蠻贊同的
所以決定簡略截錄幾段給大家參考(只會講述大意 不會逐字翻)
不過在這之前 先讓我們釐清一下觀念:
只有在你的"拳頭"或/和"手掌"碰觸地面才會構成非法膝擊的條件
至於為什麼會這樣規定 等會後面會提到
Brian Stann之前在影片中也有提到
(我覺得這影片也非常值得拿來一起參考 只是本文會著重在Big John的論點)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf2ahuYgA7o
@0:16
"The rules are clear, and there is no excuse for this thing to be so confused.
It is fists, or palms, or the combination fo the two. Period. There are no
figertips. There's no just touching the mat with both hands."
回到正文 接下來讓我們來聽聽Big John的見解
(建議可以有時間可以把它看完 裡頭也有幫Dan Miragliotta抱屈
說他是因為角度問題而無法看到事情的全貌而有誤判的情形
但本文重點會放在fighter本身的心態上
以及如果之後遇到這種局面最佳的應對方法為何)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHTBfKidf4I
@3:03
"We want a fighters to get away from what they are doing. In that stuation, we
want Chris Weidman (to) put your knee to the ground. Use your hands to defend
yourself. That's what they're there for. We don't want you to put your hands on
the ground. You're open to get your head to get uppercut in the first role."
@4:29
"Mousasi is the guy who got screwed over except for the ending. Because Mousasi
does things that are all legal for him to do. ... Chris will say 'I'm hurt' ...
and now they're taking him away from you to hurt you more and giving you time
to recover for something that was legal. That's bad."
@6:03
"If you're on your feet, and you want it to make yourself grounded by putting
your hands down, you'll have to put both hands--palms down or fists down
bearing weight--to make yourself grounded. So what I'm telling you is that:
don't ever f*cking do that."
@6:34
"And we did that in putting that rule in place because we didn't want someone
that was hurt falling forward and have a guy be able to come up and sucker kick
upon them to the face."
@7:48
"And Chris's corner is telling him 'Chris, you have time; Chris, stay down.'
They're milking something for their fighter ... And Chris is listening to them"
@8:24 (這個超好笑XD)
"He (ringside physician) said, 'what month is this?' And Chris said, 'Febuary.'
... But right away when they came back and said, 'Hey, that's good.' He said,
'It's April 8th.' ... He played himself into a loss."
@9:23
"If you're not hurt, don't play hurt. ... And if you're not hurt, get ready to
fight. Be there for what you're there for."
簡單來說
會有拳頭或手掌觸地的情形 通常是因為某位選手在受到傷害時(ex: concussion)
因為暈眩或是生理上的痛苦而"自然地"往前倒
這項規則是為了防止選手受到二次傷害而訂下的
絕對不是為了讓選手刻意用這條規則來躲避傷害或是讓對方lose by DQ
當你遇到像Chris那樣的情況 本能的反應應該是趕快用雙手擋住自己的臉防止被膝擊
而不是刻意用你的指尖輕觸地面 然後詐傷 試著利用這些外在因素來讓自己獲勝
有些人覺得裁判不應該改變判決 這樣對Chris不公平
但其實真正受害的是Mousasi 因為他被奪走了一個clean TKO win
如果Chris真的一開始被膝擊到月份都分不清楚 而且那個膝擊最後證明是合法的
那Mousasi win by TKO完全沒問題
醫生在基於相信你的情況下 當然要保護你免於更進一步的傷害
而且讓你直接繼續比賽更是對對方不公平
因為你額外多了5min的時間來恢復體力並且重新調整狀態 而這5min本來一開始就不該有的
這就好像提供每個被KO的選手5min看能不能站起來 可以的話就繼續比賽是一樣的道裡
"Be there for what you're there for."
我覺得是Big John想傳達給大家一個很重要的觀念
MMA是一個非常危險的運動 絕對不是一般人隨隨便便就可以踏進的領域
除了比賽前宛如魔鬼特訓般的training camp + dieting + weight cut
比賽時的mentality也很重要
"Kill or be killed"
我覺得是一個true warrior在踏進octagon前就要有的覺悟
這也是為什麼我們在看Lawler vs Condit會有種莫名的感動
尤其是他們最後都累到趴在牆邊時 可以感受到他們真的left everything in the octagon
一點小小的心得與大家分享~
--
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