Rodman:聯盟變太快,球員奪不了冠就會被 - NBA
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: 標題: Re: [外絮] Rodman:聯盟變太快,球員奪不了冠就會被
: 時間: Wed Feb 8 00:15:40 2017
: 標準的沒搞清楚就惱羞亂噴
: http://articles.latimes.com/1995-10-03/sports/sp-52721_1_san-antonio-spurs
: rodman不是自由球員轉隊, 而是有更衣室麻煩而被馬刺隊交易.
: 當初馬刺隊連續兩任教練John lucas 和Bob Hill都搞不定他.
: 當一個沒三分能力的前鋒, 因為西區決賽第一場最後一刻不被指派上場
: 就在第二場前5分鐘就丟包兩顆三分來報復.
: 如果你是球隊主管你會不會壯士斷臂?
:
: 噓 gaowolf : 馬刺說真的也沒讓小蟲感到有家的感覺 很少照顧小蟲 02/08 08:09
: → gaowolf : 的感受 怎麼能一味的怪小蟲? 02/08 08:09
: 推 gaowolf : #1IcBfcNL (NBA) 02/08 08:21
: → gaowolf : 上將那一年被大夢徹底打爆 遠遠不如 請勿偷渡兩人 02/08 08:21
我並不知道甚麼叫做家的感覺,但是我敢跟你保證,如果這是個家的話,小蟲一定是
優先把家裏弄亂的人。
: → gaowolf : 互爆的說詞 毫無根據 02/08 08:21
: → gaowolf : 我只是懶得刻意回文出來打臉而已 02/08 08:22
: → gaowolf : 「那年季後賽」大夢就是遠勝上將 有這麼難懂嗎? 02/08 09:41
那年季後賽數據上大夢絕對是完勝上將,但是如果你有看比賽,有看的話!看那麼一點
點的話你就知道
大夢對抗的是上將,而上將對抗的是火箭隊。
大夢拿球就只有上將一個人放單邊,小蟲死也不包夾,不只不包夾還漏掉了自己的球員
上將拿球你看看火箭隊是怎麼伺候,二夾三夾都出來。上將並不是一個背框多優秀的球
員,但是他的速度跟中距離絕對是頂尖。
他光是在禁區外就被包夾了,所以大夢完勝上將這是事實,但是所受到的待遇是兩回事
MP FG FGA FG% TRB AST STL BLK PTS
上將 41.7 7.4 16.3 46.25% 11.3 2.6 1.5 2.2 23.8
大夢 43.5 15.5 27.6 56.15% 12.5 5.0 1.3 4.1 35.3
看數據,上將真的被完爆,但是不表示上將打的很差
大夢場均比上將多出手10次,原因很簡單...放單的大夢一定是硬吃上將
但是上將只有一個人防守,所以不可能硬是犯規大夢,大夢的場均罰球只有5.1個
要知道,35分的平均分只有5.1罰球,這樣的防守已經是非常頂級的了。
反過來,上將的場均罰球出手有11.8個,很簡單可以理解他是怎麼樣被火箭隊伺候
上將得分少大夢10分,但是罰球卻多了一倍多,這受到的防守強度絕對是兩回事。
這可以說明:大夢面對上將、上將面對的是火箭
==== 推文很多人無法理解罰球少這個論述,我來舉個例子 =====
有打過全場或是勝負比賽的人一定都知道
如果今天對手有個當時地表上最強球員可以得個場均35分,你是教練你會怎麼做?
A.派一堆人包夾他夾的他不要不要的,弄得他遍體麟傷能上罰球就上罰球線搞到他沒力
B.讓自己球隊的超級進攻防守主將一對一,賭我家的主將比人家強
我想再怎麼樣一定是選擇A,保護自家主將對吧?
答對了!火箭就是這麼選擇的,而馬刺選擇的是B。
話說有好人可以做誰要當壞人?有A可以選幹嘛選B......
如果還要我在解釋也可以,說一聲,或是你們可以去看看從90年代開始那些季後賽25~35
分
的怪物是受到怎麼樣的防守強度?禁區球員場均沒有個10個罰球根本不算是招待主將
: 推 gaowolf : 大夢多一個連霸 FMVP多兩個 累計數據也是贏 上將的 02/08 09:46
: → gaowolf : 成就可以跟他比嗎? 02/08 09:46
上將的成就從來比不上大夢,但是兩人從沒有互相攻擊過。
大夢祝福上將MVP實至名歸;上將恭喜大夢連霸成功!只有一個人攻擊了自己的主將
只為了多賣幾本書。那個人叫做Rodman
: → gaowolf : 明明就可以因材施教 結果馬刺硬是用小蟲最不喜歡的 02/08 09:52
: → gaowolf : 管教方式 02/08 09:52
: → gaowolf : 搞得小蟲很不愉快 拜託 小蟲只是比較放縱罷了 他又 02/08 09:53
: → gaowolf : 不會主動去跟隊友作對 02/08 09:53
比較放縱而已?不會主動去跟隊友作對?你確定我們認識的是同一個小蟲?
我們來看看94-95年你口中上將被完爆的那一年夏天,兩邊的大前鋒是怎麼回事?
那一年Horry是個10分5籃板的24歲球員,小蟲則是個名滿天下的超級防守悍將
而季後賽Horry在Rodman的防守下成績是
MP FG FGA FG% TRB AST STL BLK PTS
史密斯 39.8 4.5 10.6 42.45% 7.1 2.6 1.5 0.5 14.5
染色蟲 33.5 2.6 6.1 43.23% 15.0 0.8 1.6 0.0 6.6
在年度超級防守球員Rodman的防守下,Horry大爆發!
我不知道這樣的貢獻有甚麼資格砲轟上將無能?這樣的貢獻有甚麼資格說馬刺有問題?
我不否認小蟲的能力,但是他譁眾取寵的態度卻深深的傷害了馬刺隊。
這也是馬刺自己造的孽,沒事找他幹嘛......
我從沒看過一個球員對球隊在怎麼不爽,可以在季後賽直接惡搞球隊。
不支援協防、擺明了不包夾、還不斷放話破壞團隊運作。
上場直接亂丟三分球,這樣的作為還有那麼多人幫他說話也是夠屌了......
艾略特本來就比不上老崔,上將本來就比不上大夢,但是都不到被摧毀的等級
整個系列小蟲根本沒有要融入團隊的意思,馬刺基本上就是4VS5...
你要說上將被完爆?我認為上將跟大夢最終都是良性競爭,只是上將輸了...
但也無所謂,畢竟上將有上帝的劇本完退、拿了馬刺的股份,成了終生聖城的人。
大夢成了NBA補習班名師,旗下弟子無數,奠定了自己在籃壇的地位
但是要我尊敬小蟲,那怕是那麼一點點我都覺得不可能...
我自己的觀點在強調一次:大夢帶著火箭擊敗了上將、上將輸給了大夢的火箭
但是比生涯,上將仍是敗將...
--
: 標題: Re: [外絮] Rodman:聯盟變太快,球員奪不了冠就會被
: 時間: Wed Feb 8 00:15:40 2017
: 標準的沒搞清楚就惱羞亂噴
: http://articles.latimes.com/1995-10-03/sports/sp-52721_1_san-antonio-spurs
: rodman不是自由球員轉隊, 而是有更衣室麻煩而被馬刺隊交易.
: 當初馬刺隊連續兩任教練John lucas 和Bob Hill都搞不定他.
: 當一個沒三分能力的前鋒, 因為西區決賽第一場最後一刻不被指派上場
: 就在第二場前5分鐘就丟包兩顆三分來報復.
: 如果你是球隊主管你會不會壯士斷臂?
:
: 噓 gaowolf : 馬刺說真的也沒讓小蟲感到有家的感覺 很少照顧小蟲 02/08 08:09
: → gaowolf : 的感受 怎麼能一味的怪小蟲? 02/08 08:09
: 推 gaowolf : #1IcBfcNL (NBA) 02/08 08:21
: → gaowolf : 上將那一年被大夢徹底打爆 遠遠不如 請勿偷渡兩人 02/08 08:21
我並不知道甚麼叫做家的感覺,但是我敢跟你保證,如果這是個家的話,小蟲一定是
優先把家裏弄亂的人。
: → gaowolf : 互爆的說詞 毫無根據 02/08 08:21
: → gaowolf : 我只是懶得刻意回文出來打臉而已 02/08 08:22
: → gaowolf : 「那年季後賽」大夢就是遠勝上將 有這麼難懂嗎? 02/08 09:41
那年季後賽數據上大夢絕對是完勝上將,但是如果你有看比賽,有看的話!看那麼一點
點的話你就知道
大夢對抗的是上將,而上將對抗的是火箭隊。
大夢拿球就只有上將一個人放單邊,小蟲死也不包夾,不只不包夾還漏掉了自己的球員
上將拿球你看看火箭隊是怎麼伺候,二夾三夾都出來。上將並不是一個背框多優秀的球
員,但是他的速度跟中距離絕對是頂尖。
他光是在禁區外就被包夾了,所以大夢完勝上將這是事實,但是所受到的待遇是兩回事
MP FG FGA FG% TRB AST STL BLK PTS
上將 41.7 7.4 16.3 46.25% 11.3 2.6 1.5 2.2 23.8
大夢 43.5 15.5 27.6 56.15% 12.5 5.0 1.3 4.1 35.3
看數據,上將真的被完爆,但是不表示上將打的很差
大夢場均比上將多出手10次,原因很簡單...放單的大夢一定是硬吃上將
但是上將只有一個人防守,所以不可能硬是犯規大夢,大夢的場均罰球只有5.1個
要知道,35分的平均分只有5.1罰球,這樣的防守已經是非常頂級的了。
反過來,上將的場均罰球出手有11.8個,很簡單可以理解他是怎麼樣被火箭隊伺候
上將得分少大夢10分,但是罰球卻多了一倍多,這受到的防守強度絕對是兩回事。
這可以說明:大夢面對上將、上將面對的是火箭
==== 推文很多人無法理解罰球少這個論述,我來舉個例子 =====
有打過全場或是勝負比賽的人一定都知道
如果今天對手有個當時地表上最強球員可以得個場均35分,你是教練你會怎麼做?
A.派一堆人包夾他夾的他不要不要的,弄得他遍體麟傷能上罰球就上罰球線搞到他沒力
B.讓自己球隊的超級進攻防守主將一對一,賭我家的主將比人家強
我想再怎麼樣一定是選擇A,保護自家主將對吧?
答對了!火箭就是這麼選擇的,而馬刺選擇的是B。
話說有好人可以做誰要當壞人?有A可以選幹嘛選B......
如果還要我在解釋也可以,說一聲,或是你們可以去看看從90年代開始那些季後賽25~35
分
的怪物是受到怎麼樣的防守強度?禁區球員場均沒有個10個罰球根本不算是招待主將
: 推 gaowolf : 大夢多一個連霸 FMVP多兩個 累計數據也是贏 上將的 02/08 09:46
: → gaowolf : 成就可以跟他比嗎? 02/08 09:46
上將的成就從來比不上大夢,但是兩人從沒有互相攻擊過。
大夢祝福上將MVP實至名歸;上將恭喜大夢連霸成功!只有一個人攻擊了自己的主將
只為了多賣幾本書。那個人叫做Rodman
: → gaowolf : 明明就可以因材施教 結果馬刺硬是用小蟲最不喜歡的 02/08 09:52
: → gaowolf : 管教方式 02/08 09:52
: → gaowolf : 搞得小蟲很不愉快 拜託 小蟲只是比較放縱罷了 他又 02/08 09:53
: → gaowolf : 不會主動去跟隊友作對 02/08 09:53
比較放縱而已?不會主動去跟隊友作對?你確定我們認識的是同一個小蟲?
我們來看看94-95年你口中上將被完爆的那一年夏天,兩邊的大前鋒是怎麼回事?
那一年Horry是個10分5籃板的24歲球員,小蟲則是個名滿天下的超級防守悍將
而季後賽Horry在Rodman的防守下成績是
MP FG FGA FG% TRB AST STL BLK PTS
史密斯 39.8 4.5 10.6 42.45% 7.1 2.6 1.5 0.5 14.5
染色蟲 33.5 2.6 6.1 43.23% 15.0 0.8 1.6 0.0 6.6
在年度超級防守球員Rodman的防守下,Horry大爆發!
我不知道這樣的貢獻有甚麼資格砲轟上將無能?這樣的貢獻有甚麼資格說馬刺有問題?
我不否認小蟲的能力,但是他譁眾取寵的態度卻深深的傷害了馬刺隊。
這也是馬刺自己造的孽,沒事找他幹嘛......
我從沒看過一個球員對球隊在怎麼不爽,可以在季後賽直接惡搞球隊。
不支援協防、擺明了不包夾、還不斷放話破壞團隊運作。
上場直接亂丟三分球,這樣的作為還有那麼多人幫他說話也是夠屌了......
艾略特本來就比不上老崔,上將本來就比不上大夢,但是都不到被摧毀的等級
整個系列小蟲根本沒有要融入團隊的意思,馬刺基本上就是4VS5...
你要說上將被完爆?我認為上將跟大夢最終都是良性競爭,只是上將輸了...
但也無所謂,畢竟上將有上帝的劇本完退、拿了馬刺的股份,成了終生聖城的人。
大夢成了NBA補習班名師,旗下弟子無數,奠定了自己在籃壇的地位
但是要我尊敬小蟲,那怕是那麼一點點我都覺得不可能...
我自己的觀點在強調一次:大夢帶著火箭擊敗了上將、上將輸給了大夢的火箭
但是比生涯,上將仍是敗將...
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