Reds Falling For It? - 美國職棒
By Liam
at 2008-01-11T14:31
at 2008-01-11T14:31
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我想這一定會被拿出來鞭,所以我先自婊。
去年我們全年得分是794,失分是813(自責分754)
依照baseball reference(by Bill James)算出來的成績是79W-83L
去年四號五號(Jeff Weaver, Horacio Ramirez, Cha Seung Baek,
Ryan Feierabend)的成績合計約是 367.1IP 280R 265ER。
之前有人提出過baseball reference的公式會有outlier,這種情況通
常出現在RP戰力特出的狀況,今年的水手就是一個例子。我想這邊應該
是最多人有疑問的地方,到底是運氣是實力?
Carlos Silva去年的成績是202IP 99R 94ER
去年一個平均水準的五號ERA是6.09
我把367.1-202(IP)的部份用這ERA帶入得到的責任失分是112分
接著我把Silva's ER + 5th's ER = 94 + 112 = 206
再原封不動把非自責分加回去
206 + ( 280 - 265 ) = 221
把去年的失分扣掉誤差的部份
813 - ( 280 - 221 ) = 754
用這樣的失分再帶入baseball reference的公式得到85W-77L
當然打棒球不是算算術,算算術可能也不該這麼算,不過這也勉強算
是一種數據派的觀點,我想可以參考。
※ 引述《Epsilon (我是EPS)》之銘言:
: 我的問題有兩個,
: 第一個是:去年的88勝是真的?還是賽到?
: 若是真的,那我同意在現有實力上拼一年看能不能進季後賽。
: 若只是賽到,籌碼都撒光了才發現其實根本連季後賽的邊都摸不到,那不是蠢到家?
: 上面這問題我傾向於認為是塞到,所以我反對在08年孤注一擲。
: 另一點是,綠帽與條子都在重建沒錯,
: 紅猴08年可是強上再加強,
: 我們不拼也照樣可以電掉綠帽與條子,
: 但孤注一擲的結果如果不能至少有50%的機會幹掉紅猴,
: 那也還是蠢事一樁。
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去年我們全年得分是794,失分是813(自責分754)
依照baseball reference(by Bill James)算出來的成績是79W-83L
去年四號五號(Jeff Weaver, Horacio Ramirez, Cha Seung Baek,
Ryan Feierabend)的成績合計約是 367.1IP 280R 265ER。
之前有人提出過baseball reference的公式會有outlier,這種情況通
常出現在RP戰力特出的狀況,今年的水手就是一個例子。我想這邊應該
是最多人有疑問的地方,到底是運氣是實力?
Carlos Silva去年的成績是202IP 99R 94ER
去年一個平均水準的五號ERA是6.09
我把367.1-202(IP)的部份用這ERA帶入得到的責任失分是112分
接著我把Silva's ER + 5th's ER = 94 + 112 = 206
再原封不動把非自責分加回去
206 + ( 280 - 265 ) = 221
把去年的失分扣掉誤差的部份
813 - ( 280 - 221 ) = 754
用這樣的失分再帶入baseball reference的公式得到85W-77L
當然打棒球不是算算術,算算術可能也不該這麼算,不過這也勉強算
是一種數據派的觀點,我想可以參考。
※ 引述《Epsilon (我是EPS)》之銘言:
: 我的問題有兩個,
: 第一個是:去年的88勝是真的?還是賽到?
: 若是真的,那我同意在現有實力上拼一年看能不能進季後賽。
: 若只是賽到,籌碼都撒光了才發現其實根本連季後賽的邊都摸不到,那不是蠢到家?
: 上面這問題我傾向於認為是塞到,所以我反對在08年孤注一擲。
: 另一點是,綠帽與條子都在重建沒錯,
: 紅猴08年可是強上再加強,
: 我們不拼也照樣可以電掉綠帽與條子,
: 但孤注一擲的結果如果不能至少有50%的機會幹掉紅猴,
: 那也還是蠢事一樁。
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