Re: Top 60 Players 25 and Under - 美國職棒

Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2011-10-20T21:42

Table of Contents

: 18. Michael Pineda (22)
: 27. Jeremy Hellickson (24)
:
: 推 csy1911:Hellickson竟然在Pineda之下?! 10/20 20:32
: 推 aibakoji:Hellickson只有局數吃得比較多而已，K/9太低了 10/20 20:48
: → aibakoji:以表現來說低於之前的預期，Pineda剛好相反 10/20 20:49
: → aibakoji:我想這是把Pineda排比較高的主因 10/20 20:50
: → externaload:又要開始釣魚了嗎 10/20 20:54
: → externaload:Hell boy今年ERA+ 126 Pineda才103 ...只看K/9就說他 10/20 20:56
: → externaload:表現的比Hell boy好 不太中肯吧 10/20 20:56
: 推 honey4617912:Pineda上半季表現讓人印象分數比較高吧..還有他的 10/20 21:09
: → honey4617912:剛猛球速 10/20 21:10
: 噓 csy1911:Hellickson只有局數吃比較多?! 看一下ERA差多少吧! 10/20 21:12
: → externaload:Pineda下半季澇賽阿..Hell boy整季都滿穩的 10/20 21:14
: → externaload:Hell boy今年ERA還低於3 還不夠好嗎? 10/20 21:15

FIP ERA+ H/9 HR/9 K/9 BB/9 LOB% BABIP LD% GB%

Pineda 3.42 103 7.0 0.9 9.1 2.9 69.7% .258 18.9% 36.3%

Hellickson 4.44 126 7.0 1.0 5.6 3.4 82.0% .230 19.0% 35.3%


更少的三振，更多的保送，更多的全壘打

差不多的被安打

卻丟比較少分...

我看Hellickson只有運氣比較強吧？


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All Comments

Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2011-10-23T23:23
有道理...進階數據都是Pineda較佳
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2011-10-27T15:17
但是Hell boy的BABIP也比較低阿 不能說完全是強運吧
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2011-10-31T21:08
啪啪啪啪....腫了...
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2011-11-01T05:19
LOB%高達八成也是他ERA這麼低的原因 啊壘上有人他就能
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2011-11-03T01:35
pineda是前三個月老本太雄壯吧-.-打到季末還吃不完
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2011-11-03T12:33
鎖的住 你要說強運也好 但難道運氣不是球賽的一部分?
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2011-11-08T08:54
3F 看的角度不同罷了 哪裡有打到臉?
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2011-11-08T16:21
運氣好 能加薪?....
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2011-11-09T11:09
我有說腫哪嗎.....
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2011-11-09T18:45
Pineda 進階數據比較優秀也不能加薪阿 -_-
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2011-11-13T13:02
還有Hell boy今年BABIP是.223 你看成生涯了 謝謝
David avatar
By David
at 2011-11-14T13:48
黑田 要哭哭了...
George avatar
By George
at 2011-11-18T05:25
PINEDA上半季/下半季WHIP=1.035/1.224
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2011-11-18T14:29
Hellickson為1.148/1.16
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2011-11-20T13:47
看起來Hellboy實力就輸一截
George avatar
By George
at 2011-11-22T20:34
平均是?....cy 有分上半季 下半季?
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2011-11-25T01:02
Pineda出了主場的成績根本就是一片慘澹 = ="
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2011-11-25T14:46
自我感覺良好真的很有用
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2011-11-26T12:04
樓上~~那是主場屍氣更重...多少會被影響XD
修正...樓樓上
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2011-11-30T20:08
進階數據好是不會加薪,但如果再維持下去可就不一定了
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2011-12-04T03:47
HellBoy比較怪的是他K9掉很大 去年還有8 小聯盟也不差
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2011-12-05T15:07
壘上有人壓制力變強叫運氣好?! 還是第一次聽到 = =
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2011-12-05T21:14
HellBoay也是一樣這2個人明顯都有球場威能
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2011-12-07T02:26
被排在後面應該是K9掉很大
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2011-12-09T18:03
要說Hellboy強運 我也可以酸Pineda靠球場阿
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2011-12-12T13:03
那大夫..李..都可以去自殺了 = =
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2011-12-13T06:22
光芒和水手都屬於投手球場 但Hell Boy客場表現完全壓過
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2011-12-15T13:13
Pineda 每九局可以少掉1分
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2011-12-19T01:17
08松坂表示:壘上有人我超強的
John avatar
By John
at 2011-12-19T23:56
請問拿CY 是看這些?....
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2011-12-21T12:05
他小聯盟K9接近10 今年剩5
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2011-12-26T09:44
跟大夫跟李有什麼關係＝ ＝
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2011-12-29T08:02
不要再拿K/9出來說了 棒球又不是比誰K比較多 = ="
John avatar
By John
at 2012-01-02T02:14
今年又不是他們兩個爭CY 一直扯CY衝蝦 = =
James avatar
By James
at 2012-01-03T20:17
最好是沒關係 原本三振率不差的投手 突然掉那麼多
一定是有哪些問題
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2012-01-04T11:22
第6話 沒事K/9剩一半絕對很奇怪阿
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2012-01-07T06:34
講cy 是因為大部分的球探 球評 還是以數據為主.一整季
若 不是看一整季的話 那u-ball豈不是有一座了?
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2012-01-07T10:21
Lee 今年LOB%也高達八成 乾脆也酸他強運好了
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2012-01-10T03:02
笑死人 K/9不能看 只能看ERA是吧?
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2012-01-13T15:18
他分上下半季看 是要突顯Pineda下半季的表現明顯變差
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2012-01-14T11:55
到底乾CY什麼事阿???
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2012-01-16T09:09
那請樓上說一下 除了K/9還有什麼可以說好了
更正樓樓樓上
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2012-01-16T13:06
FIP這三個大字阿
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2012-01-19T05:13
下半季跟上半季Pineda除了k/9.bb/9沒啥變.其他被打擊數據
幾乎全面上揚
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2012-01-19T11:33
Lee 08年CY的K/9: 6.85 假日03年CY K/9: 6.90
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2012-01-22T22:39
另一個重點WHIP值...
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2012-01-24T04:58
到底是撞牆期還是被摸熟還難說...
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2012-01-25T06:50
都沒有很高啊 K/9低又如何?
SP看WHIP有時候等同垃圾數據 謝謝
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2012-01-27T21:48
那兩個當時era多少?....這個不漂亮 至少有些是贏過人的
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2012-01-31T11:19
WHIP高又如何 K功了得 鎖的住啊 SP看WHIP能幹麼??
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2012-02-01T12:17
假日03年CY的ERA有3.25喔..也不算非常變態
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2012-02-04T15:57
更有趣的是Pineda.K/9最高的月份在7月10.9.但該月Whip=1.25
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2012-02-08T19:27
ERA6.75.剛好是詐得最徹底的一個月
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2012-02-09T10:16
那就是洗出來的 就是因為上壘的人多
Grienke K9最高時後也是最炸的時候 後來正常了K9就掉了
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2012-02-12T18:50
那他當月的被長打率應該也特別高吧
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2012-02-15T04:39
壘上壓制力喔...也先看看他輸的最後3項是什麼
LOB本來就跟運氣也有關聯了，後面的也可輔助參考
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2012-02-15T13:08
所以說單看K/9不准要配K%看
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2012-02-16T09:29
FIP比ERA高上快1.5絕對很奇怪啊
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2012-02-18T17:25
FIP意義也有限的很.他看中太多所謂強投的條件了
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2012-02-21T01:24
但是HellBoy確實有些怪 K% 只有15% 在小聯盟有25%
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2012-02-25T06:11
如果LOB%.LD%高，K%.GB%.BABIP卻很低，明顯有運氣影響
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2012-02-27T11:55
突然掉那麼多 我不看好明年有一樣的成績
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2012-02-28T08:58
我很想說 年輕 跟第一年....
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2012-03-03T09:11
推樓上 也覺得這是Pineda放在Hellickson前面這麼多的主因
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2012-03-04T08:10
松坂已經證明過所謂壘上有人變強只是個笑話而已
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2012-03-07T08:11
有些投手FIP天生會比較差, 這看一年不準吧 XD
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2012-03-08T16:17
03大夫 勝投第一 吃局數...另外bb/9 也不差...
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2012-03-11T17:32
但大部分就是高個0.5~1.0 1.5很明顯不正常啊
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2012-03-14T10:41
傻了 運氣好本來就能加薪 進階數據才不行 雖然看好Pineda
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2012-03-18T10:29
CY頒給不強運的PINEDA比較好 這樣才讓人心服口服
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2012-03-21T01:35
強運投手拿CY說不過去
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2012-03-25T00:39
回r大 那king 加個鳥薪水.....那年數據不進階?
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2012-03-25T09:04
少2歲是主因

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