May be time to trade Felix Hernandez - 美國職棒

Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2011-12-10T14:15

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http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/19137/may-be-time-to-trade-felix-hernandez



In 2011, the Seattle Mariners finished 29 wins behind the Texas Rangers. They
finished 19 wins behind the Los Angeles Angels.

Mariners general manager Jack Zduriencik has adamantly refused to listen to
offers for ace right-hander Felix Hernandez, no matter the desire of the New
York media to stir up trade rumors.

But that was B.A. -- Before Albert.

"It certainly creates a challenge in our division, no doubt," Zduriencik said
Thursday after the Angels reached terms with Albert Pujols. "A bigger
challenge than had already been there."

Besides Pujols and fellow free agent signee C.J. Wilson, the Angels have
young stud Mike Trout ready to make a big impact on the win column. They have
Peter Bourjos and Mark Trumbo still making close to the league minimum salary
while providing solid production and likely improvement. They may get Kendrys
Morales back. With Wilson, Jered Weaver and Dan Haren, their rotation now
possesses three of the American League's top-10 starting pitchers of 2011.

In other words, the Angels are going to be extremely tough for at least a
couple years, before Haren is eligible for free agency after the 2013 season,
before Pujols perhaps starts declining, and before the young players start
requiring contracts that will eat up larger chunks of the team budget.

Meanwhile, the Rangers appear ready to absorb the loss of Wilson -- they'll
move Neftali Feliz into the rotation, and they still have a core of players
in their primes in Josh Hamilton, Ian Kinsler, Adrian Beltre, and Elvis
Andrus. They have money to spend, although some of that will have to go
signing Hamilton and Kinsler to extensions. Still, don't be surprised if they
win the rights to Yu Darvish, as they seek an ace to replace Wilson.

Add it up and you have to do a lot of funny math to make the Mariners
contenders in 2012 or '13, even if they sign Prince Fielder.

That takes us to 2014 -- the final year of Hernandez's contract. At that
point, facing years of losing and poor run support in his rear-view mirror,
what are the odds Hernandez would sign an extension with the Mariners? He'd
still be turning just 29 years old early in the 2015 season, meaning he'd be
ripe for a mega-contract before that season from one of the usual big-market
franchises (which includes the Angels and Rangers).

The future of the Mariners sits with 2011 rookie gem Michael Pineda, plus
pitching prospects Taijuan Walker, Danny Hultzen and James Paxton, all of
whom have top-of-the-rotation potential. Outside of second baseman Dustin
Ackley, however, the position players don't rate as high, and the guys who do
have a chance to impact the major league level (Nick Franklin, Alex Liddi,
Vinnie Catricala) need more time in the minors.

That means, realistically, the Mariners are aiming for 2014 at the earliest.
By then, Hernandez's trade value won't be as high; and if they are
competitive by then, it would be because Pineda, Hultzen, Paxton and Walker
are in the rotation ... which, in theory, would make King Felix more
expendable.

So do you trade Hernandez now, when his value his highest and his arm
healthy? I'm not a fan of advocating trading a superstar, since those trades
rarely work out (see: the Indians and Phillies trading Cliff Lee). But
sometimes they do, such as when the Rangers acquired Andrus, Feliz and Matt
Harrison for Mark Teixeira. None of those players were actually that close to
the majors, so the Rangers took a big risk that paid off. If the Mariners
would be willing to trade Hernandez, they would want at least one bat that is
major league ready with big-time power potential ... plus a lot more.

So, yes, to fan the fire: Jesus Montero, Brett Gardner, Manny Banuelos and
another prospect could get Zduriencik thinking, no?

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All Comments

Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2011-12-13T00:56
!!
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2011-12-17T22:14
!!
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2011-12-19T23:32
如果king離開水兵我就把拉掉= =
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2011-12-22T13:44
no
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2011-12-27T08:56
!!
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2011-12-31T08:17
No. 用那三隻換King?
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2012-01-02T02:32
================水兵GM 說過絕對不會交易他的說..======
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2012-01-05T22:22
不過那幾隻也都很有潛力說
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2012-01-06T12:54
No.
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2012-01-09T03:06
動到Gardner...
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2012-01-10T21:15
前幾天不是看到水兵GM不會考慮交易King嗎?
如果真的想交易 肯定不少隊會打電話吧
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2012-01-15T05:51
Pujols is Montero like 現金人真會挑時間放話XD
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2012-01-18T13:12
連我這役男都想打電話過去問為什麼了
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2012-01-20T09:59
紅人要衝了嗎? 紅人可以給出整個內野野手包裹 XD
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2012-01-21T23:33
Gardner去水手? 水手是有多少個第一棒腿哥阿XD
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2012-01-26T17:38
交易他...那目的是換什麼呢..@@? 交易王牌風潮嗎..
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2012-01-31T17:20
天使嚇到水兵了
Una avatar
By Una
at 2012-02-01T20:55
目的是重建。我不希望是真的
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2012-02-05T09:33
要動到Gardner的話 現金人還是好好考慮一下吧
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2012-02-07T12:06
這三隻能換到Felix $man應該不會猶豫
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2012-02-11T05:14
那三個換一個25歲Cy 我想沒有人會猶豫吧
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2012-02-15T20:57
絕對會 Gardner走了沒人扛LF 如果是Nunez就沒差了
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2012-02-16T20:05
偷笑都來不及 還要考慮啥XD
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2012-02-21T05:48
尤其NYY那殘破的SP陣容
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2012-02-25T10:51
外野市場隨便補都有 CY SP哪裡找
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2012-02-28T20:49
LF市場找找一定有 腿弟也不是找不到替代品
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2012-03-01T11:29
還需要考慮? 當然換了阿
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2012-03-05T18:21
好吧 再加個Figgins好了
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2012-03-07T02:01
每年都有幻想文- -
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2012-03-09T15:40
幻想文
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2012-03-14T05:58
換了NYY可以再用$去買OF 年輕的CY強投不可多得阿~
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2012-03-14T07:45
一OPS+91的LF跟FELIX比 你真的會猶豫? 猶豫啥勒
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2012-03-15T03:45
新萬用包
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2012-03-16T21:43
說不定King很想到洋基~除了打擊還有他小時候的偶像在
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2012-03-18T14:28
當初King選擇跟水手簽約不就是因為Garcia在水手
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2012-03-21T01:42
考慮的意思是: 考慮一下會不會晚上做夢會笑醒...
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2012-03-22T14:40
他小時候的偶像是誰?
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2012-03-22T17:37
Freddy Garcia
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2012-03-24T22:09
免幻想...=.="
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2012-03-29T08:40
大白天的 做什麼夢?
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2012-04-03T00:44
不是Silva嗎(誤)
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2012-04-03T07:06
說要考慮一下的是在搞笑喔~"~
William avatar
By William
at 2012-04-04T11:13
水手要換就一次A大點吧XDD
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2012-04-09T06:37
水兵大概除了RF 1B之外 剩下都是洞..隨便換都有用XDD
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2012-04-11T17:34
引戰性很夠的幻想文
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2012-04-15T13:11
的確有點幻想文,原網址下面有外國鄉民提到水兵需要的是大
棒子,而開出來那幾個就連montero都沒有完整證明過自己,
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2012-04-17T11:07
Montero+Nunez+Gardner for xxx(請自行代入)
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2012-04-22T08:06
更不用說腿弟的打擊型態根本無法挹注強大火力給打線
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2012-04-24T09:30
每年都來一次...
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2012-04-27T09:28
拿Cano來再說啦
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2012-04-29T01:11
就是無法挹注砲火才能加入水手阿 不然打線就要得分了
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2012-05-02T17:35
那要連我也交易掉嗎
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2012-05-07T01:33
steve大是說"水兵就是要維持若打線嗎?"XD
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2012-05-10T02:37
把Nunez交易掉吧 只會E
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2012-05-13T16:01
那三隻..
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2012-05-15T02:33
不太可能 已經在重建中還交易掉他根本沒票房
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2012-05-15T20:29
有一朗和川崎宗則誰說沒票房的
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2012-05-20T09:55
覺得說出什麼動到Gardner要考慮的根本是反串 = =
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2012-05-22T04:37
腿弟很好阿Q^^^Q
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2012-05-24T12:45
這種文看到都想罵髒話了
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2012-05-26T14:14
腿弟是不錯 去年Montero九月也很好 不過我們說的是KING
閉著眼睛也要換
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2012-05-31T13:38
推樓上~Gardner沒有不好,只是在King等級的交易中
他也只能當配菜
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2012-06-02T18:27
神經(掛電話)
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2012-06-04T04:55
真要交易,不動到cano等級的是不可能的
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2012-06-07T13:03
動到CANO 那就不用談了 XD
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2012-06-12T12:06
GGs being GGs
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2012-06-16T23:19
動到Cano無疑是在NYY的二壘開大洞
不過討論到King,年中Cashman據聞曾經提過一個包裹
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2012-06-17T13:52
Z大人很好,每年這樣被騷擾都沒生氣
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2012-06-18T16:22
不過直接被打搶
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2012-06-20T06:47
其實也很難說 說不定KING來紐約不能適應?Montero去水手變30H
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2012-06-24T20:08
R打者100打點的捕手呢!!一切都未知數呀
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2012-06-29T09:39
提包裹打槍又不痛不癢
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2012-07-03T11:31
這麼穩的投手難尋 打者花點錢買就有了
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2012-07-05T15:04
什麼都難說就別說了唄~
James avatar
By James
at 2012-07-06T01:30
哈哈哈,水手幹麻沒事拿王牌去賭未知數,神經病
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2012-07-07T14:08
montero先在洋基打出30HR再來說
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2012-07-08T13:09
說不定 你怎麼不說明年Nova25勝 Gardner30hr
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2012-07-08T18:09
科科 漁獲豐富
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2012-07-09T23:05
天使:
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2012-07-14T09:18
.....................
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2012-07-19T03:26
( ′-`)y-~
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2012-07-23T20:46
結果去水手染上屍毒 30HR變30H
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2012-07-25T20:48
屍毒威力有那麼爛嗎? 不是300K?
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2012-07-26T09:12
先打出來再說吧 King可是已經證明過的
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2012-07-30T04:58
幻想文也能釣到一堆
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2012-08-01T04:49
貼文讓酸民高潮狂酸,借刀殺人的功夫一流.
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2012-08-01T06:59
水兵頭殼如果壞掉了 就有可能換
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2012-08-05T14:53
標題都MAY BE了
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2012-08-07T13:12
幻想文還有一堆球迷以為那包多大哈哈
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2012-08-10T17:13
拿同花打贏full house,是賭客的夢想
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2012-08-11T11:42
水手:我們用king跟你們交換主場 我們去紐約 你們
跟king在西雅圖...
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2012-08-12T18:58
那包換的到Z絕對走不出西雅圖
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2012-08-13T22:46
每年都來一次的幻想文 自high
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2012-08-18T15:07
為了讓KING有希望能進季後賽玩玩,也許交易是個好選擇。
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2012-08-23T06:16
king離開水手,水手還能玩啥
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2012-08-28T01:25
又在幻想了
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2012-08-29T23:53
用主場交易XDDD Good idea!!
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2012-08-30T19:31
看到水兵死也不換King,東岸媒體要崩潰了。

some rumors

Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2011-12-10T13:57
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