Jimmy Butler:要不要上場我會讓他們知道 - NBA

By Hamiltion
at 2018-11-03T13:58
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消息來源:
我是J-Con Taiwan在勇士的隨隊記者
剛剛我在客隊更衣室
現場聽到 先上節錄版本
內容:
Jimmy Butler賽後在更衣室表示,未來
幾場比賽是否上場,他會自己決定。
至於被問到關於他前一場比賽告知球隊他
全身酸痛無法上場時,他回應詢問的記
者說,「你為什麼這麼在乎?」
短評或心得:
教練、管理階層誰決定你上不上場?
「I will let them know, they don't
know how my body feels.」
--
一開始我在客隊更衣室用手機發文,
以下為之後在媒體是補上的全文
為避免誤會,以下補上原文。
「Why you worried about my injuries right now.」
「Stop asking me if I sit out or not, if I sit out, you probably
won't talk to me on the day I sit out, but if I do, I do, you can
create a story around it, or a lot of makeups, like you always do.」
「不要再問我會不會休息了,如果我休息,你大概在比賽後也跟我說不到話,
如果我休了,我就休了,你可以圍繞這這件事做文章,或是一大堆捏造的事實,
就像你平常做的那樣。」
--
再補一次原記者詢問的問題本身
「Would you make that call, kind of the conjunction with Thib and
the front office? Who makes that call when you decide to sit out?」
Jimmy Butler 說:「I will let them know. 」
我認為make the call 就是做決定的意思
而Jimmy Butler回覆 「我會讓他們知道」在這個問題之下
這樣的回應意即他是自己做決定的人
今日灰狼在第四節差一口氣,不過Jimmy
Bulter的發言大概又要洗版了。
附上Jimmy Butler今天的賽前練球照
https://www.instagram.com/p/BptQX6hgpnw/
開賽時明明還笑得很開心的
https://www.instagram.com/p/BptRjVXg2pa/
---------------------------------------------------------
上方是我在更衣室現場直擊 用手機趕著發文之後 經過兩次修改之後的狀態
被質疑帶風向以及時間軸不對
由於在球場已經凌晨一點半 我在離開球場返家之後
再重新把整個狀況重新順過一次
(還好等一下是禮拜六 可以睡到很晚)
-------------------------------------------------------
以下是我對於這次引起幾位版友質疑的最後回覆
再來就讓我們繼續享受下一場比賽吧~
----------------------------------------------------
首先感謝版眾一直以來的支持與意見
不只是這一篇 而是我一直以來的發文都有很多朋友的推文
在此先一併致謝
真心感謝
由於標題的語意上面有不同的意見
也由於我已經在原文裡面增添了兩次的補充
時間軸跟推文上面看起來有點混亂
於是我回家之後
先把完整的將近三分鐘的訪問逐字稿全部留在這裡
然後我再回覆幾位針對我的版友
1. Warriors took over the 4th quarter, how tough to stop them?
JB : 'Very tough honestly, they got a lot of the guys, they do so many things,
you know they are gonna making shots whenever they get the stops, we turned
the ball over and they going down and make shots, this is gonna difficult.'
JB老實說很難,他們人手充足,可以做很多事,你知道只要他們防守成功,他們就能
得分。我們後來失誤,他們就開始投進了,這很難。
2. 'For you, you have back to back coming from Portland on Sunday, Clippers
on Monday, do you plan on play both parts of that, or a game of that,
or how are you decide...'
對於週日週一連兩場的比賽,你打算打兩場、打一場,你怎麼決定?
JB‘See how my body feels?'
JB:就看我身體狀況 (語調上揚)
'Would you make that call, kind of the conjunction with Thib and
the front office? Who makes that call when you decide to sit out?'
是你做決定,有跟教練還是管理階層搭上線?誰能做出讓你休兵的決定?
JB 'I will let them know. They don't know how my body feels, if I am nicked up,
you can count on that, we will see how it goes, I don't know what we are
planning on doing tomorrow, I will use some treatments along with other guys,
we will see when Sunday Monday gets here.'
JB : 我會讓他們知道,他們才不知道我身體感覺如何,如果我不打了,
你就知道我身體不舒服,我們再看看情況怎樣吧,我不知道我們明天計畫會
做出什麼決定,我會跟其他人一起做一些治療,週日週一再看看如何。
3. 'Is there something maybe under circumstances that you might try to play
through, considering the situations that you might not want to get injured
by affecting the potential deal that might be coming down...'
你會因為有可能影響交易,因此不想要藉此出賽有任何受傷的風險嗎?
(這個迂迴的問法真的很厲害,要把這題翻譯好蠻難的。)
JB: 'I am not worried about no deal, injure or not, I got to take care of
myself. I realized, they have a job to do as an organization, I have one to do
as a player, If I am not, in the right... put my body and go out there to do
it, I don't want to get hurt, I have been hurt almost every year now. we are
going to take this as precaution.
我不在乎交易,受不受傷什麼的,我必須要照顧我自己,我知道管理階層有
他們的工作要完成,而我身為球員我也有我的事要做,如果我不能讓我的身體
處在一個正確的狀況之下去打球... 我不想要受傷,我最近這幾年每年都有傷到
,我們會把這件事當作一個預防措施。
4. Warriors 4th quarter, 33 to 12.
勇士第四節比分33:12
JB: 'They got stops and make shots, we did not.'
JB: 他們防守成功,投籃命中,我們沒有。
5. Is there a specific parts of your body that's hurting?
you used the term "general soreness"...
記者:你有什麼身體部位是在痛的嗎?你之前用的詞是全身痠痛
JB:'why you so worried about my injuries'
JB: 你為什麼這麼關心我哪裡痛
'Because it's the most important things going on right now'
記者:因為這是現在最重要的事了
JB:'No it's not,'
JB: 這才不是
'Absolutely it is,'
記者:當然是
JB:'No it's not, you just want to make it into that, if the talk wasn't
going on, I sat out because my body was sore, you would not be asking
me just like that ,
JB: 才不是,你只是想要讓這看起來是,如果我今天因為痠痛沒出賽,
這場訪問沒有開始過,你就不會這樣問我了。
'That's probably true.'
記者:這有可能
JB:'I know thats true, stop asking me if I sit out or not, if I sit out,
you probably won't talk to me on the day I sit out, but if I do, I do,
you can create a story around it, or a lot of makeups, like you normally do.」'
JB: 我知道這是真的,不要再問我打不打了,如果我休了,你也沒辦
法在賽後問到我問題,如果我打了,那我就打了,你可以寫出一個圍
繞這件事的故事,或者是你可以去寫一些不實的東西,像你平常做的那樣。
--
其中總共五題,第一跟第四都是在講比賽本身,
一開始第一題JB還算有耐心回答
稱讚勇士隊總是能夠在做好防守之後直接反擊
第四題JB應該是因為第二第三題的提問問題有點不耐煩
所以直接說他們防守成功,投籃投進,我們沒有。
回到這次我採取的標題核心
主要是出在這一句
'Would you make that call, kind of the conjunction with Thib and
the front office? Who makes that call when you decide to sit out?'
是你做決定?是教練跟管理組?誰做決定讓你休兵的?
JB 'I will let them know. They don't know how my body feels,
「我會讓他們知道(我打不打),他們不知道我身體感覺怎樣。」
以及後續的第三題被問到交易的問題,
‘I got to take care of myself.’
‘I don't want to get hurt, I have been hurt almost every year now. we are
going to take this as precaution.’
JB的原意是 他認為管理階層有他們的責任 而我的責任就是照顧好我自己的痠痛
以及打好比賽 我不在乎什麼交易 那是你們管理階層的事 但是我不想要受傷
第五題 記者想問JB有沒有什麼特定部位痠痛?
JB與這名記者應該是有宿怨,因為兩個直接抬槓起來,
JB認為如果我真的酸痛到不能出賽,那麼你賽後也是找不到我的
我剛看了一下 主要有三位參與討論 希望不要漏掉太多人
w9 IBIZA AhUtopian
AhUtopian跟我在FB上有一些意見上的交換
我們有溝通過 所以我這邊就先不用再回應他
W9認為我翻譯修正的時間軸有帶風向之嫌 這是我對你留言的解讀
但我的翻譯從頭到尾都是一樣的
我並沒有一開始說球員決定 然後改成球團決定
我的立場都是一致的
我在現場聽譯的東西就是原文
所以如果你所謂的附上原文就是逐字稿的話 那請你參考上方
不過我的確是一開始用手機在更衣室裡發文 內容的確比較不完整
後來將整個提問的問題以及回答補齊 這部分我不覺得你的質疑有什麼問題
是我在掌握消息的速度與完整度上面要再加強
有鑒與此 我也很樂意跟大家討論這條新聞
因此我將整個訪問的過程發表在上方
希望也能將你帶入那個採訪現場的氛圍
至於IBIZA的意見我看了一下 他針對我標題應該要直接把JB的話原封不動的翻譯出來
意即你認為我的標題該寫成 "我會讓他們知道身體狀況“
你說的這句當然沒有錯,這跟在哪裡當記者沒有關係,
我也不知道你為何要提台美差異?
下標題到底是要100%按照原文,還是要把前後文的意思串起來
這個其實也是個很大的學問,但主要的都是得把正確的意思傳遞出去
100%依照原文 會不會誤解意思?
如果照前後文串起來 會不會也誤解意思?
回到這題本身
由於前面的提問者的立場擺明是站在球隊立場發問的 事實上是很不客氣的
「誰做決定讓你休息 是你自己?還是教練?管理階層?」
JB的意思是「我會讓他們知道(我的身體狀況)」
也就是說 他會依照他的痠痛程度告知教練團跟管理階層
再自己決定要不要出賽
而且 這也不是第一場比賽他這麼決定
先不論到底酸不酸痛是真是假 這除了他本人以外沒有人知道
但他上一場比賽告知教練團他不出賽 他贏湖人之後全身痠痛
因此我的認知就是 他未來連續兩場比賽他將自己決定要不要出賽
我的標題是 Butler:要不要上場我會讓他們知道
這個認知上有沒有錯誤?我依然認為沒有
過度解讀?問題是問「誰做決定?」
I will let them know, they don’t know how my body feels.
只有兩個解讀,
第一 我會讓他們知道能做決定的人是誰
第二 我是做決定的人 我會讓他們知道我要不要打
我在當場是認定他說他自己是做決定的人 他再告知教練團
這是我在當場的判定
但是第一時間的完整度夠不夠?
事後看來我自己都覺得不夠完整
這也是我未來再面對這種狀況之下必需要加強且注意的點
我的回覆就到此
我想我的說明跟逐字稿的整理可能有幾個錯字
但應不至於影響整個翻譯的前後語意
若有什麼問題的話也歡迎私信討論
--
我是J-Con Taiwan在勇士的隨隊記者
剛剛我在客隊更衣室
現場聽到 先上節錄版本
內容:
Jimmy Butler賽後在更衣室表示,未來
幾場比賽是否上場,他會自己決定。
至於被問到關於他前一場比賽告知球隊他
全身酸痛無法上場時,他回應詢問的記
者說,「你為什麼這麼在乎?」
短評或心得:
教練、管理階層誰決定你上不上場?
「I will let them know, they don't
know how my body feels.」
--
一開始我在客隊更衣室用手機發文,
以下為之後在媒體是補上的全文
為避免誤會,以下補上原文。
「Why you worried about my injuries right now.」
「Stop asking me if I sit out or not, if I sit out, you probably
won't talk to me on the day I sit out, but if I do, I do, you can
create a story around it, or a lot of makeups, like you always do.」
「不要再問我會不會休息了,如果我休息,你大概在比賽後也跟我說不到話,
如果我休了,我就休了,你可以圍繞這這件事做文章,或是一大堆捏造的事實,
就像你平常做的那樣。」
--
再補一次原記者詢問的問題本身
「Would you make that call, kind of the conjunction with Thib and
the front office? Who makes that call when you decide to sit out?」
Jimmy Butler 說:「I will let them know. 」
我認為make the call 就是做決定的意思
而Jimmy Butler回覆 「我會讓他們知道」在這個問題之下
這樣的回應意即他是自己做決定的人
今日灰狼在第四節差一口氣,不過Jimmy
Bulter的發言大概又要洗版了。
附上Jimmy Butler今天的賽前練球照
https://www.instagram.com/p/BptQX6hgpnw/
開賽時明明還笑得很開心的
https://www.instagram.com/p/BptRjVXg2pa/
---------------------------------------------------------
上方是我在更衣室現場直擊 用手機趕著發文之後 經過兩次修改之後的狀態
被質疑帶風向以及時間軸不對
由於在球場已經凌晨一點半 我在離開球場返家之後
再重新把整個狀況重新順過一次
(還好等一下是禮拜六 可以睡到很晚)
-------------------------------------------------------
以下是我對於這次引起幾位版友質疑的最後回覆
再來就讓我們繼續享受下一場比賽吧~
----------------------------------------------------
首先感謝版眾一直以來的支持與意見
不只是這一篇 而是我一直以來的發文都有很多朋友的推文
在此先一併致謝
真心感謝
由於標題的語意上面有不同的意見
也由於我已經在原文裡面增添了兩次的補充
時間軸跟推文上面看起來有點混亂
於是我回家之後
先把完整的將近三分鐘的訪問逐字稿全部留在這裡
然後我再回覆幾位針對我的版友
1. Warriors took over the 4th quarter, how tough to stop them?
JB : 'Very tough honestly, they got a lot of the guys, they do so many things,
you know they are gonna making shots whenever they get the stops, we turned
the ball over and they going down and make shots, this is gonna difficult.'
JB老實說很難,他們人手充足,可以做很多事,你知道只要他們防守成功,他們就能
得分。我們後來失誤,他們就開始投進了,這很難。
2. 'For you, you have back to back coming from Portland on Sunday, Clippers
on Monday, do you plan on play both parts of that, or a game of that,
or how are you decide...'
對於週日週一連兩場的比賽,你打算打兩場、打一場,你怎麼決定?
JB‘See how my body feels?'
JB:就看我身體狀況 (語調上揚)
'Would you make that call, kind of the conjunction with Thib and
the front office? Who makes that call when you decide to sit out?'
是你做決定,有跟教練還是管理階層搭上線?誰能做出讓你休兵的決定?
JB 'I will let them know. They don't know how my body feels, if I am nicked up,
you can count on that, we will see how it goes, I don't know what we are
planning on doing tomorrow, I will use some treatments along with other guys,
we will see when Sunday Monday gets here.'
JB : 我會讓他們知道,他們才不知道我身體感覺如何,如果我不打了,
你就知道我身體不舒服,我們再看看情況怎樣吧,我不知道我們明天計畫會
做出什麼決定,我會跟其他人一起做一些治療,週日週一再看看如何。
3. 'Is there something maybe under circumstances that you might try to play
through, considering the situations that you might not want to get injured
by affecting the potential deal that might be coming down...'
你會因為有可能影響交易,因此不想要藉此出賽有任何受傷的風險嗎?
(這個迂迴的問法真的很厲害,要把這題翻譯好蠻難的。)
JB: 'I am not worried about no deal, injure or not, I got to take care of
myself. I realized, they have a job to do as an organization, I have one to do
as a player, If I am not, in the right... put my body and go out there to do
it, I don't want to get hurt, I have been hurt almost every year now. we are
going to take this as precaution.
我不在乎交易,受不受傷什麼的,我必須要照顧我自己,我知道管理階層有
他們的工作要完成,而我身為球員我也有我的事要做,如果我不能讓我的身體
處在一個正確的狀況之下去打球... 我不想要受傷,我最近這幾年每年都有傷到
,我們會把這件事當作一個預防措施。
4. Warriors 4th quarter, 33 to 12.
勇士第四節比分33:12
JB: 'They got stops and make shots, we did not.'
JB: 他們防守成功,投籃命中,我們沒有。
5. Is there a specific parts of your body that's hurting?
you used the term "general soreness"...
記者:你有什麼身體部位是在痛的嗎?你之前用的詞是全身痠痛
JB:'why you so worried about my injuries'
JB: 你為什麼這麼關心我哪裡痛
'Because it's the most important things going on right now'
記者:因為這是現在最重要的事了
JB:'No it's not,'
JB: 這才不是
'Absolutely it is,'
記者:當然是
JB:'No it's not, you just want to make it into that, if the talk wasn't
going on, I sat out because my body was sore, you would not be asking
me just like that ,
JB: 才不是,你只是想要讓這看起來是,如果我今天因為痠痛沒出賽,
這場訪問沒有開始過,你就不會這樣問我了。
'That's probably true.'
記者:這有可能
JB:'I know thats true, stop asking me if I sit out or not, if I sit out,
you probably won't talk to me on the day I sit out, but if I do, I do,
you can create a story around it, or a lot of makeups, like you normally do.」'
JB: 我知道這是真的,不要再問我打不打了,如果我休了,你也沒辦
法在賽後問到我問題,如果我打了,那我就打了,你可以寫出一個圍
繞這件事的故事,或者是你可以去寫一些不實的東西,像你平常做的那樣。
--
其中總共五題,第一跟第四都是在講比賽本身,
一開始第一題JB還算有耐心回答
稱讚勇士隊總是能夠在做好防守之後直接反擊
第四題JB應該是因為第二第三題的提問問題有點不耐煩
所以直接說他們防守成功,投籃投進,我們沒有。
回到這次我採取的標題核心
主要是出在這一句
'Would you make that call, kind of the conjunction with Thib and
the front office? Who makes that call when you decide to sit out?'
是你做決定?是教練跟管理組?誰做決定讓你休兵的?
JB 'I will let them know. They don't know how my body feels,
「我會讓他們知道(我打不打),他們不知道我身體感覺怎樣。」
以及後續的第三題被問到交易的問題,
‘I got to take care of myself.’
‘I don't want to get hurt, I have been hurt almost every year now. we are
going to take this as precaution.’
JB的原意是 他認為管理階層有他們的責任 而我的責任就是照顧好我自己的痠痛
以及打好比賽 我不在乎什麼交易 那是你們管理階層的事 但是我不想要受傷
第五題 記者想問JB有沒有什麼特定部位痠痛?
JB與這名記者應該是有宿怨,因為兩個直接抬槓起來,
JB認為如果我真的酸痛到不能出賽,那麼你賽後也是找不到我的
我剛看了一下 主要有三位參與討論 希望不要漏掉太多人
w9 IBIZA AhUtopian
AhUtopian跟我在FB上有一些意見上的交換
我們有溝通過 所以我這邊就先不用再回應他
W9認為我翻譯修正的時間軸有帶風向之嫌 這是我對你留言的解讀
但我的翻譯從頭到尾都是一樣的
我並沒有一開始說球員決定 然後改成球團決定
我的立場都是一致的
我在現場聽譯的東西就是原文
所以如果你所謂的附上原文就是逐字稿的話 那請你參考上方
不過我的確是一開始用手機在更衣室裡發文 內容的確比較不完整
後來將整個提問的問題以及回答補齊 這部分我不覺得你的質疑有什麼問題
是我在掌握消息的速度與完整度上面要再加強
有鑒與此 我也很樂意跟大家討論這條新聞
因此我將整個訪問的過程發表在上方
希望也能將你帶入那個採訪現場的氛圍
至於IBIZA的意見我看了一下 他針對我標題應該要直接把JB的話原封不動的翻譯出來
意即你認為我的標題該寫成 "我會讓他們知道身體狀況“
你說的這句當然沒有錯,這跟在哪裡當記者沒有關係,
我也不知道你為何要提台美差異?
下標題到底是要100%按照原文,還是要把前後文的意思串起來
這個其實也是個很大的學問,但主要的都是得把正確的意思傳遞出去
100%依照原文 會不會誤解意思?
如果照前後文串起來 會不會也誤解意思?
回到這題本身
由於前面的提問者的立場擺明是站在球隊立場發問的 事實上是很不客氣的
「誰做決定讓你休息 是你自己?還是教練?管理階層?」
JB的意思是「我會讓他們知道(我的身體狀況)」
也就是說 他會依照他的痠痛程度告知教練團跟管理階層
再自己決定要不要出賽
而且 這也不是第一場比賽他這麼決定
先不論到底酸不酸痛是真是假 這除了他本人以外沒有人知道
但他上一場比賽告知教練團他不出賽 他贏湖人之後全身痠痛
因此我的認知就是 他未來連續兩場比賽他將自己決定要不要出賽
我的標題是 Butler:要不要上場我會讓他們知道
這個認知上有沒有錯誤?我依然認為沒有
過度解讀?問題是問「誰做決定?」
I will let them know, they don’t know how my body feels.
只有兩個解讀,
第一 我會讓他們知道能做決定的人是誰
第二 我是做決定的人 我會讓他們知道我要不要打
我在當場是認定他說他自己是做決定的人 他再告知教練團
這是我在當場的判定
但是第一時間的完整度夠不夠?
事後看來我自己都覺得不夠完整
這也是我未來再面對這種狀況之下必需要加強且注意的點
我的回覆就到此
我想我的說明跟逐字稿的整理可能有幾個錯字
但應不至於影響整個翻譯的前後語意
若有什麼問題的話也歡迎私信討論
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