Greinke真的被帶壞了嗎? - 美國職棒

William avatar
By William
at 2011-10-19T16:30

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版上會出現:『Zack Greinke被Nyjer Morgan帶壞了』的這種看法,
源自於#1EaGPh2t 17894 +8610/09 abc12812 □ [情報] Greinke賽前嗆聲
這一篇文章。

這是一個非常聳動的標題,
但連到發文者給的twitter連結一看,
咦,好像Greinke真的有說這樣的話。
http://twitter.com/#!/dgoold/status/122776092430958592


St. Louis Post-Dispatch的記者Derrick Goold在推特寫到:

Greinke: "A lot of guys on our team don't like Carpenter.
... His attitude out there sometimes is like a phony attitude."
#nlcs #STLcards



Greinke一向給人的印象就是斯文派的投手,
而不是會跟人打嘴砲的類型。
所以乍看之下,的確會有Greinke被帶壞了的感覺。

雖然該篇文章下就已經有版友推文說這根本就是記者斷章取義,
但大部分版眾的推文都往『Morgan是個壞榜樣』這個方向走去,
所以似乎絕大多數版友的看法,也被這樣的說法給影響了。

但事情真的是這樣嗎?

版友lynked在該篇底下的推文:
lynked:http://tinyurl.com/44pu9js <--- 完整訪談內容10/09 11:06

這是一個總共有16個問題的Q&A,
而真正跟紅雀或Carpenter有關的問題只有三個。
以下是原文轉錄,還有我自己的翻譯:

==========================================================================
問題5
Q:After being around it for 18 matchups this season,
do these two teams legitimately dislike each other?
ZG:Maybe now. I think no one really likes Carpenter.
But besides that, I think they respect mostly everyone on their team.

Q: 在本季碰頭18次之後,這兩隻球隊有互看不順眼嗎?
ZG: 也許現在有吧。我有沒人喜歡Carpenter的感覺,
但除此之外,我認為隊友們對紅雀絕大部分的球員都有敬意。

問題11

Q:You talked about in the beginning about the rivalry
with the Cardinals, for a while it was the Brewers
chasing the Cardinals and now you guys are right there?
ZG:I don't know what it is, but it seems like everyone
always wants to make a rival with the Cardinals.
Maybe just -- I don't know, I like how they play the game.
I think their manager is really smart.
I like how their players play. They play the game good.
They hardly ever make mistakes.

I don't know why it seems to be like that,
but coming into Spring Training, no one liked
the Cardinals on our team.
And I guess the Reds didn't like them last year.
And I mean, I don't understand it,
but a lot of guys respect how they do it
and a lot of guys get mad at them.

Q:你剛剛談到與紅雀的競爭。之前都是釀酒人在追趕紅雀,
而現在你們只缺臨門一腳?
ZG:我也不知道究竟是怎麼一回事,
但我感覺全隊都一直想把紅雀當成對頭看。
也許是... 我也不知道。
我欣賞他們的打法。我覺得紅雀的教練很棒。
我喜歡他們球員打球的風格。
他們打得很好,而且幾乎不會犯錯。

我不知道為什麼會是這樣,不過從春訓一開始,
我們隊就沒人喜歡紅雀了。紅人去年好像也不喜歡紅雀的樣子。
我真的不懂,很多人對他們打球的風格抱有敬意,
也有很多人對他們不爽。

問題16 就是Derrick Goold推特節錄那段的來源。

Q:So what do the guys have against Carpenter?
ZG:I don't know.
They think his presence, his attitude out there sometimes is
like a phony attitude.
But -- and then he yells at people.
He just stares people down and stuff.
And most pitchers just don't do that.
And when guys do, I guess some hitters get mad.
Some hitters do it to pitchers. But when you do that
some people will get mad.
There's other pitchers in the League that do it,
but, I don't know, a lot of guys on our team don't like Carpenter.

Q:所以你的隊友們到底看Carpenter哪裡不順眼?
ZG:我不知道耶。
他們覺得有時Carpenter在場上的態度是假正經。
但..他又會跟別人對嗆。還會跟別人互瞪這樣。
大部分的投手都不會這樣做。
而當有投手這樣做時,我想有些打者會不爽。
有些打者也會這樣做(指跟投手對嗆、互瞪),
當他們這樣做時,有些人也會不爽。
聯盟裡也有別的投手會做這種動作,
但,我不知道為什麼,我們隊上很多人不喜歡Carpenter。
=========================================================================
我想,看了原文之後應該不難發現,
很清楚的,Zack Greinke不過是回答了記者的一個問題。
而不是他自己主動在嗆說『喔,我們覺得Carpenter假正經(phoney)』。

這很明顯的是記者自己斷章取義,要人去看他推特上的聳動標題罷了。
其實不只版眾們被Derrick Goold的這的推特文誤導了,
滿多外電也都只是引述這個推特文,而不是做完整的報導。
所以,怎麼說呢?
雖然台灣的記者爛的多好的少,
但也不是所有國外的記者就一定都有新聞人的自律自覺。
唉。

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All Comments

Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2011-10-24T05:28
http://tinyurl.com/44pu9js <--- 完整訪談內容
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2011-10-24T10:58
先推這篇!!
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2011-10-27T08:50
原來是標題殺人法
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2011-10-31T03:26
"but it seems like everyone always wants to make a
rival with the Cardinals
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2011-11-01T22:04
挖洞給Zack跳
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2011-11-05T21:49
他也只和酒鬼隊友熟,幹嘛幫其他隊討厭紅雀?
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2011-11-08T19:32
¿基於可信度,本板全面禁止國外新聞 ?
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2011-11-09T17:21
推 一堆人被記者誤導
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2011-11-11T02:17
你可以不要一起討厭 但是要冒著被排擠的風險
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2011-11-12T14:31
紅人也討厭紅雀沒錯啊 Phillips表示:
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2011-11-17T14:26
推 專業 清白
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2011-11-18T07:47
論未來還是有版眾繼續推『Greinke被Morgan帶壞』的可能性
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2011-11-19T04:46
看起來他的病是好了
George avatar
By George
at 2011-11-23T17:10
夫唱婦隨,老婆也一起討厭紅雀 (給的座位)
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2011-11-25T14:48
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2011-11-27T16:18
推!
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2011-11-30T10:29
推!
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2011-12-03T21:07
一起討厭? 怎麼聽起來像是小學生的話? 要一起討厭他喔^^
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2011-12-05T23:36
放心好了,一年後還是會有板友相信Greinke愛亂嗆聲
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2011-12-06T09:07
推!
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2011-12-08T00:06
m吧m
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2011-12-10T15:39
推~
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2011-12-14T11:50
看來我誤會了 ZG不是Morgan最好的朋友
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2011-12-16T08:13
感覺就是隨口說說,也沒有批評的意思
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2011-12-18T18:39
我們家Greinke很乖的 他一定是交了壞朋友
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2011-12-23T02:43
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2011-12-25T15:33
真相大白!
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2011-12-29T02:53
記者全世界都一樣啦
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2011-12-30T19:45
推這篇
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2012-01-01T15:03
ZG從頭到尾都只是就事論事 記者的掰工真強~
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2012-01-04T15:21
遲來的真相不曉得會有多大效果(嘆)
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2012-01-05T03:30
感謝用心查證~~
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2012-01-09T11:41
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2012-01-09T17:02
這種用心查證的文章不推不行
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2012-01-10T09:22
真實報導比打混仗更好!
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2012-01-11T09:17
推這一篇
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2012-01-13T19:53
推 原來沒被帶壞
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2012-01-16T10:12
GJ
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2012-01-17T11:39
謝謝翻譯澄清!
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2012-01-19T20:41
但他的說法還是挺有趣XXD
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2012-01-21T20:24
推!感謝
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By Madame
at 2012-01-23T04:42
只能推了,原PO我愛你!!
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By Olive
at 2012-01-26T19:53
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By Suhail Hany
at 2012-01-30T05:51
推認真 !!
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By Heather
at 2012-02-03T02:04
推 果然

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