Curry或Kobe?絕殺球誰投更可靠? Walton:選Kobe - NBA

By Regina
at 2015-05-17T21:34
at 2015-05-17T21:34
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我實在不懂 YamagiN 你列這兩個數據的用意是?
先講這個討論串第一個命題:
Luke Walton 認為比賽最後時刻的決勝一投,他會選擇 Kobe,因為 Kobe 在漫長的職業
生涯中已經充分證明過自己是NBA歷史上最出色的終結者之一了。
所以我的回應是以下:
季後賽裡面,在第四節或是延長賽的最後 24 秒:a shot to tie or take the lead
FGM FGA FG%
Michael Jordan 9 18 50.0%
LeBron James 8 20 40.0%
Dirk Nowitzki 5 13 38.5%
Kevin Durant 5 16 31.3%
Tim Duncan 4 14 28.6%
Manu Ginobili 4 14 28.6%
Chauncey Billups 4 16 25.0%
Kobe Bryant 7 28 25.0%
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季賽裡面,在第四節或是延長賽的最後 24 秒:a shot to tie or take the lead
FGM FGA FG%
Michael Jordan 33 58 56.9%
Kobe Bryant 48 165 29.1%
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回到原來的命題,你認為哪個定義比較能夠代表 [ 比賽最後時刻的決勝一投 ]?
是我提出的 在第四節或是延長賽的最後 24 秒:a shot to tie or take the lead 呢?
還是你提出的 final minute (還是從 2006 開始算) 或是你提出的 Final 24 seconds
since 2006 呢?
為什麼你提的這兩個數據都沒有設定當時球隊是落後 (三分以內) 或是平手狀態呢?
沒有限定這些條件的話,只單看球賽最後一分鐘或是最後 24 秒,這是哪門子的關鍵
時刻呢?
最奇怪的是為什麼不拿 Kobe 的生涯數據出來比較,而要切割在 2006 呢?那以後要不要
Kobe 只算兩冠就好,另外三冠就不講了呢?
比數據的時候懂的要切割在 2006,可是講冠軍數的時候常常愛提五冠?
只挑 2006 以後真的蠻好笑的!除非是數據查不到,不然還切割數據挑有利的來比真是雙
重標準啊!
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我第二篇的回文是回應有人提到的 Kobe 常常第四節開無雙。
我們來看看 Kobe 季賽表現與季賽第四節表現的 FG% 差異:
季賽 FG% 季賽第四節 FG%
1996-97 41.7 37.1 第四節 FG% 低於四成
1997-98 42.8 42.8
1998-99 46.5 48.1 第一次第四節的 FG% 優於季賽 FG%
1999-00 46.8 47.1 第二次第四節的 FG% 優於季賽 FG%
2000-01 46.4 43.7
2001-02 46.9 40.5
2002-03 45.1 41.7
2003-04 43.8 42.7
2004-05 43.3 42.6
2005-06 45.0 41.1
2006-07 46.3 41.0
2007-08 45.9 45.8
2008-09 46.7 43.6
2009-10 45.6 42.6
2010-11 45.1 39.7 第四節 FG% 低於四成
2011-12 43.0 40.5
2012-13 46.3 45.1
2013-14 42.5 30.0 第四節 FG% 低於四成
2014-15 37.3 32.7 第四節 FG% 低於四成
Kobe 生涯的季賽第四節 FG% 表現也是遜於自己季賽的表現!目前為止,
生涯只有兩季的季賽第四節 FG% 表現優於季賽!
而這兩季剛好隊上的大當家都是 Shaq!
有四季的季賽第四節 FG% 低於四成!
看完季賽之後,我們再來看看季後賽的數據。
我們來看看 Kobe 季後賽表現與季後賽第四節表現的 FG% 差異:
季後賽 FG% 季後賽第四節 FG%
1996-97 38.2 46.7 第一次第四節的 FG% 優於季後賽 FG%
1997-98 40.8 39.3 第四節 FG% 低於四成
1998-99 43.0 32.4 第四節 FG% 低於四成
1999-00 44.2 36.9 第四節 FG% 低於四成
2000-01 46.9 49.4 第二次第四節的 FG% 優於季後賽 FG%
2001-02 43.4 49.1 第三次第四節的 FG% 優於季後賽 FG%
2002-03 43.2 44.6 第四次第四節的 FG% 優於季後賽 FG%
2003-04 41.3 36.5 第四節 FG% 低於四成
2005-06 49.7 37.2 第四節 FG% 低於四成
2006-07 46.2 29.4 第四節 FG% 低於三成!!!
2007-08 47.9 46.8
2008-09 45.7 39.2 第四節 FG% 低於四成,當年他是 FMVP!
2009-10 45.8 37.2 第四節 FG% 低於四成,當年他是 FMVP!
2010-11 44.6 30.8 第四節 FG% 低於四成
2011-12 43.9 36.5 第四節 FG% 低於四成
Kobe 生涯的季後賽第四節 FG% 表現也是遜於自己季後賽的表現!目前為止,
生涯只有四季的季後賽第四節 FG% 表現優於季後賽!
而這四季剛好隊上的大當家都是 Shaq!
有十季的季後賽第四節 FG% 低於四成!!!也就是生涯只有五季高於四成!!!
有一季的季後賽第四節 FG% 低於三成!!!
看完以上的數據是要告訴大家,Kobe 第四節不管是季後賽或是季賽根本稱不上是開無雙
,因為跟 Kobe 自己的季賽數據或是季後賽數據比起來,季後賽第四節或是季賽第四節根
本是澇賽的狀態。
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若你覺得 在第四節或是延長賽的最後 24 秒:a shot to tie or take the lead
這個數據對 Kobe 不利,想要看其他數據,那我也可以列給你。
生涯季後賽的情況下: a shot to tie or take the lead
Last 30 seconds
Kobe: 7 for 28 (25.0%) (0 for 8 from the 09 post season till present day)
LeBron: 10 for 22 (45.5%)
Last 2 minutes
Kobe: 17 for 50 (34.0%) (0 for 8 in the last two playoffs; 2010 and 2011)
LeBron: 22 for 46 (47.8%)
不管是條件限定在最後 24 秒、最後 30 秒、最後兩分鐘都一樣,Kobe 在季後賽關鍵
時刻的投籃命中率都是明顯差 James 不只一個等級!
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綜合以上,我想請教 YamagiN 兩個問題。
第一個問題,你覺得 Kobe 在比賽最後時刻的決勝一投,表現如何呢?
是很神很準?還是跟 Kobe 平時的投籃命中率差不多?還是表現很一般呢?或是其實是很
澇賽呢?
第二個問題,你覺得 Kobe 整個球員生涯在第四節有開無雙嗎?
若你這兩個問題都可以回答我的話,那我不懂你為什麼會提出 final minute (還是從
2006 開始算) 與 Final 24 seconds since 2006 這兩個數據。
你提的這兩個數據跟我們討論串在討論的命題有關嗎?
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