入札制度 - 美國職棒

Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2011-12-21T16:38

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請問入札制度是暗標(對該球員有興趣的MLB球隊輸入金額,然後等MLB官方把金額告知該
球員所屬日本球團,再看日本球團同不同意這筆金額)還是說是採用競標的方式,大家隨時
都可以往上加呢?

有看了一下日文維基的ポスティングシステム(posting system, 入札制度),不過沒看
到答案。



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2010 Texas Rangers Postseason Franchise Roster
(SP)Cliff Lee (C)Benjie Molina (1B)Mitch Moreland (2B)Ian Kinsler
(SS)Elvis Andrus (3B)Michael Young (LF)David Murphy (CF)Josh Hamilton
(RF)Nelson Cruz (DH)Vladimir Guerrero (SP)C.J. Wilson (SP)Colby Lewis
(CL)Neftali Feliz (RP)Darren O'Day (RP)Darren Oliver (SP)Derek Holland
(RP)Alexi Ogando (RP)Michael Kirkman (C)Matt Treanor (OF)Julio Borbon

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All Comments

Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2011-12-25T22:30
blind bidding process
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2011-12-30T19:53
只能出價一次
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2012-01-04T19:23
那MLB球團只能輸入一次入札金額囉?還是說和不知道的對手
感謝樓上
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2012-01-08T09:49
好奇是如果改成公開自由報價轉隊會如何?
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2012-01-11T17:21
first priced sealed bid
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2012-01-13T21:49
會變成看到同區對手要標到了~就算沒要簽也亂喊價= =
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2012-01-17T12:43
如果可以出好幾次不就跟拍賣沒什麼兩樣
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2012-01-21T18:19
球員可以挑不是最高的嗎?
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2012-01-22T16:22
美方只報最高"價"給日方,不包括"隊" 是球隊決定不是球員
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2012-01-24T16:11
球員只能在球隊決定接受入札價格後跟得標者談約
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2012-01-25T01:31
請問下標金額一模模一樣樣怎麼辦
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2012-01-28T11:37
一模模一樣樣?
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2012-01-31T14:59
好好萌萌唷唷
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2012-02-02T18:51
cho大 good question
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2012-02-06T14:13
不太可能,紅襪當初出價5111萬後面零頭都是1,沒這麼巧吧
George avatar
By George
at 2012-02-08T13:15
所以競標的金額尾數學問大囉~~~ 剛好大過一元!!!
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2012-02-09T09:47
#15Va8-KO 以前維尼熊入札的時候寫的
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2012-02-10T21:43
我想紅襪當時就是覺得快被洋基標走了才衝一發大的
William avatar
By William
at 2012-02-12T17:52
可以到日本職棒選手會的網頁直接下載相關條文...
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2012-02-14T03:28
就跟競標一樣~
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2012-02-16T02:37
跟標鮪魚很像嘛
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2012-02-16T12:01
如果胡亂出高價 之後又不簽會有懲罰嗎?
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2012-02-19T17:43
看到C大那篇文說馬林魚出不起 現在看起來差超多XD
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2012-02-20T11:12
如果被判定沒有誠意簽下,會由第二高價遞補吧
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2012-02-23T05:29
請問若最後遊騎兵沒有簽下,入札金還是要照付嗎?
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2012-02-26T17:08
當然不用啊...沒簽到還要付50M 根本詐騙
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2012-03-02T15:36
沒簽到還要付的話以後得標價應該不超過5000鎂
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2012-03-04T00:34
去年岩隈跟綠帽談約失敗後 怎麼都沒看到有其他球隊 替補
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2012-03-08T11:28
談判 真希望這次不要像去年一樣
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2012-03-09T13:41
要聯盟認定為故意不肯談才能遞補
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2012-03-14T09:16
不過這種認定是否惡意的標準 應該難拿捏吧
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2012-03-16T13:05
不知道如果改成 入札金與球員約合併一起談 然後再由原球
David avatar
By David
at 2012-03-17T02:13
團 從球員合約中抽取某個百分比 會不會好一些
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2012-03-18T14:35
這樣還沒談細節之前就得對薪資出價反而更奇怪
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2012-03-23T12:11
我的意思其實就是 把原球團當成是經紀人的角色
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2012-03-24T10:40
只不過抽的百分比可以高一些 其他MLB球員不也這樣談嗎
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2012-03-24T19:29
這樣就不是本來的入札制度了吧 本來是算跟球團買球員
入札過了 球團賣給你 細節怎麼樣你們自己去喬
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2012-03-28T07:49
若一個球員只有6年資歷 但要9年才可取得FA 那原球團就可
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2012-03-29T04:41
以在新約中的前三年 抽取新約平均薪資的某個百分比
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2012-04-02T20:45
這樣應該也算是買賣球員的一種方式
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2012-04-04T12:27
否則入札金多少與新約的大小 常會起衝突 更不容易談成
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2012-04-09T09:09
就轉隊費阿 職業足球常見 而且更貴
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2012-04-14T00:34
基本上 入札金可以視為買斷選手合約的轉隊費
和薪水本來就是應該分開算的
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2012-04-18T08:21
也不應該因為付了高額的入札金就壓縮選手的薪水
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2012-04-21T10:47
畢竟你提早使用了兩年 付給原球隊轉隊費也很合理啊
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2012-04-25T00:56
入札是成為海外FA前的特例,之後合約談不談的成,跟原球團
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2012-04-27T19:31
本來就無關,因為該球員年資還不到海外FA的時間~
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2012-04-30T21:36
入札金還有個另外一個名稱叫做補償金 端看於各球隊對於
球員的母隊有多少誠意(金錢)而定
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2012-05-03T13:32
不過畢竟本來就只是種方式,而你說的也是一種而已
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2012-05-07T18:07
不是聽說之後MLB要改成"國際選秀" 有人清楚這個嗎
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2012-05-12T14:24
現實狀況中 入札金跟新約要脫鉤 很難吧 球隊每年預算還是
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2012-05-16T19:20
要考慮的重要因素吧
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2012-05-21T18:22
所以你只是想指出這個規定的不良點而後試圖提出改善方式?
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2012-05-22T08:53
只是認為這個制度未來一定會有大幅度改變
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2012-05-27T05:56
至於怎麼改變 應該有比我說的更適合更好的方式吧
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2012-05-27T22:40
你只是站在資方的立場想 不希望資方出這麼高額的金額
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2012-06-01T07:27
但是你也想想 會出到51.7M也是各球團之間競爭而產生的
也就是說 51.7M就是遊騎兵認為買斷達比修合約的合理價
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2012-06-02T07:43
當然出這麼高的價格人家也不是沒經過大腦思考
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2012-06-02T09:35
出得起高額的轉隊費 自然也要提出符合選手身價的合約
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2012-06-06T09:18
剛好相反 以松阪為例 若不是那麼高額的入札金 我認為他
可以拿到更高額的平均薪資
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2012-06-07T18:38
畢竟任何一個商業團體 每年預算不是無限大啊
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2012-06-09T04:27
講極端一點 若完全不用入札金 達爾要20M/Y 機會很大
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2012-06-13T10:03
但是松坂去之後 日本選手的價錢開始提高
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2012-06-17T16:53
所以達比修變貴也是合理
至於達比休如果FA 可不可以拿到20M一年也是未知數
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2012-06-20T21:17
痾 問題是選手還不是FA吧 不是FA是能多少
要大幅改變的是NPB的FA
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2012-06-23T00:30
但加上入札金後 機會就不大了 所以入札金跟新約要脫鉤 難
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2012-06-23T15:00
只能說 松坂當時去就是領當時的行情 現在達比修的行情
又不一樣了
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2012-06-24T07:11
怎麼不乾脆說MLB的新秀也沒辦法和SERVICE TIME脫鉤?
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2012-06-25T05:45
那些新秀因為還不是FA也就被迫簽低新長約阿
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2012-06-29T18:06
松坂就算是FA的身分挑戰大聯盟 也可能只是年薪10M的料
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2012-06-30T02:20
松井秀喜剛去MLB年薪是7M 福留為什麼可以領到10M??
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2012-07-04T19:40
舉個例子 未來五年某GM認為達爾值100M
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2012-07-07T16:45
你說的那個GM是誰
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2012-07-08T20:58
入札金50M薪資就50M 入札金40M薪資就60M 這是我想表達的
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2012-07-11T09:09
沒有人這樣算的哦...
也有可能入札金50M年薪75M 入札金0$ 年薪還是75M
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2012-07-13T14:03
語病了 合約總額75M
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2012-07-17T10:54
再假設一下 未來五年某GM認為達爾值200M
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2012-07-22T09:34
入札金100M薪資就100M 入札金50M薪資就150M
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2012-07-24T06:23
你的假設根本沒基礎
只要把FA提前 那錢全部入袋 不用分一毛給球團
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2012-07-29T04:57
你假設多少都沒有用...都還是你的假設
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2012-07-31T09:15
我這樣跟你說 松坂入札金51.11M 合約52M/6y
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2012-08-02T08:26
今天松坂變FA 合約會不會超過52M/6y 根本是空談
你說松坂這個薪水是被入札金拖垮只是你個人的想法
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2012-08-07T02:58
也許在GM眼中 52M/6y就是合理價 而松坂也覺得合理
51.11M的入札金 只是這場談判過程的入場費而已
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2012-08-10T20:44
我"個人"認為就商業經營而言 入札金跟新約 不可能脫鉤
John avatar
By John
at 2012-08-12T14:37
談新約時 也只能以當時狀況來判斷 判斷對錯誰知道
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2012-08-12T23:41
對呀 你講到重點了 不論是松坂或是達比 都只會簽一次約
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2012-08-13T04:23
要證明入札金和年薪之間有消長關系 最好的辦法應該是
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2012-08-13T23:16
A君先申請入札→得知他的入札金和球團的Offer→談判破局
接著隔年取得FA然後看原球隊或市場報價
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2012-08-18T05:23
判斷對錯 沒人知道 不過"當前" 球團每年預算 應該知道
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2012-08-19T18:28
岩隈久志去年的入札金額是19M 合約提示是15M/4y
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2012-08-23T05:37
他今年似乎還有意挑戰MLB 不仿看看他年薪能不能突破4M?
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2012-08-27T05:31
順帶一提 和田毅今年獲得的合約大約是8M/2y
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2012-08-29T09:57
在有意願新球團的預算範圍內 球員及舊球團盡量取得平衡點
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2012-09-02T04:16
目前的方法 我個人認為對球員稍為不利 畢竟球團再先
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2012-09-07T02:39
這批選手看下來 我覺得他們挑戰MLB的動機只剩下追夢而已
錢他們在日本都已經賺飽飽了 就算薪水比不上日本也照去
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2012-09-10T16:33
達比修算是這幾年下來唯一對薪水有所要求的球星
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2012-09-15T14:41
最可憐的我想是上原浩治 他是這些人裡面最渴望打大聯盟
的人 但是巨人隊根本不可能放他 所以他把青春都耗在巨人
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2012-09-17T07:00
上 等到FA的時候 他已經傷痛纏身了
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2012-09-20T01:12
上原真的可惜了 但這能說什麼呢?
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2012-09-21T05:23
幻想推文也能談這麼大一篇 FA跟非FA都搞不清楚
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2012-09-21T15:12
http://jpbpa.net/system/contract.html 相關契約請參照
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2012-09-25T12:14
有英文版本的..如果不懂日文可以參考英文版
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2012-09-28T15:24
不過岩隈去年也不是完全追夢..不然去年早就去挑戰MLB了.....
至於他薪水可能還會考量到今年表現..畢竟兩年時間空間有差異
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2012-10-01T23:19
岩隈的入札失敗跟他的經紀人有莫大的關係阿。
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2012-10-02T01:27
我倒覺得主要是因為綠帽標到吧
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2012-10-04T07:15
岩隈要價太高 才是破局主因吧
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2012-10-07T11:36
井川當年是26M入札+20M/5y 和岩隈價格差不多
可是岩隈這一方好像獅子大開口要18M/1y?

幾位球員談合約

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