魔術說SHOWTIME湖人可以橫掃勇士 格林: - NBA
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Showtime的湖人很注重傳導, 每季都有高場均團隊助攻
這一點跟現在的勇士很像, 所以我們來看看當時的湖人到底能不能打敗16-17年勇士
但Magic的湖人拿過五次總冠軍, 我們先來挑出哪一次奪冠的ShowTime湖人最強
先說結論: 82湖人 > 17勇士 = 80湖人 > 85湖人 > 87湖人 > 88湖人 -------
(1) 一樣雙MVP, 一樣4個人都是無法限制, 所以取決於團隊防守
(2) 82&80&85湖人都跟17勇士同類型, 但82湖人有最好的進攻籃板跟禁區防守跟抄截火鍋
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1980: 4-2擊敗76人奪冠, Finals場均盒子 http://imgur.com/a/jcs3D
特色1: 湖人27次助攻 9.2抄截 6.2火鍋 vs 勇士32.5助攻 8.5抄截 3.5火鍋
特色2: 雙後衛MJ跟Nixon場均8.7+7.0助攻 vs 勇士Curry 10.5+KD 7.05助攻
特色3: 1980時幾乎不砍三分, 6場下來湖人4中0, 76人16中1
特色4: 湖人場均51.3極高籃板總數, 進攻籃板場均17.2顆!
--> 80湖人對戰17勇士可能狀況
(1) Jabbar場均4.6顆火鍋太驚人->勇士禁區得分銳減
(2) 勇士火鍋主要靠KD跟嘴綠無法在湖人面前逞能 ->場均火鍋銳減, 禁區防守下降
(3) 湖人提升餵球給禁區的Jabbar比例 ->團隊助攻提升, Jabbar各人得分提升
(4) 嘴綠在禁區敵不過Jabbar跟MJ, 籃板下降, 得分下降, 更多外圍組織傳導
(5) 湖人被迫拉開防守範圍去守勇士三分,
勇士得分方式變三分為主, 再來切入中距離跳投, 再來切入後買犯
[結論] 湖人的禁區 pk 勇士的三分
81湖人 pk 17勇士, 五五波, 誰都可能勝出, 勝負看勇士的三分能準幾場
但輸的那隊起碼系列賽能搶得兩勝 (4-2 or 4-3的結果)
1982: 4-2擊敗76人奪冠, Finals場均盒子 http://imgur.com/a/6Ig3k
特色1: 34歲的Jabbar已經出現退化, 但這支湖人卻較1980更強
特色2: 6人場均得分雙位數團隊得分來到112, 31助攻10.7抄截7.0火鍋, 真正的攻守一體
特色3: 湖人112分31.3助攻10.7抄截7.0火鍋 vs 勇士122.5分32.5助攻8.5抄截3.5火鍋
特色4: 湖人場均進攻籃板18.33顆! (這季勇士兩場場均12顆)
特色5: 湖人只有Jabbar跟魔術(6'9")有身高優勢, 其餘位置勇士有身高優勢
--> 82湖人對戰17勇士可能狀況
(1) 幾乎同屬性的兩支球隊, 但進攻籃板 & 抄截 & 火鍋都是湖人較強 ->勇士得分下降
(2) 除了Jabbar外的主力都在30歲以下可以追上勇士的傳導, Jabbar依舊有場均3.2火鍋
也讓勇士禁區得分下降, 22歲的魔術就是顛峰期的LeBron (16.2分10.8版8助攻2.5抄截)
(3) 湖人依舊精良的禁區&團隊防守, 迫使勇士把三分投射的比例再提高
(4) 這支湖人有6人得分>13, 團隊傳導不輸勇士
[結論] 兩隊都有雙MVP, 這四位也都是無人可以限制的 (Jabbar, MJ/KD,Curry)
比拼其他隊友的狀況下, 湖人勝
可以合理的說, 很大機會82湖人可以擊敗17勇士, 勇士應該只能拿下2勝, 最多3勝
1985: 4-2擊敗超賽, Finals場均盒子 http://imgur.com/a/R00oh
湖人新增了James Worthy這位名人堂球星, 整體得分上升了, 但隨著Jabbar的老化, 湖人
的(1)場均進攻籃板下降(42.7), (2)進攻籃板下降(11),禁區防守下降(火鍋4.0)
85湖人115.8分42.7版32助攻9.2抄4火鍋 vs 17勇士122.5分32.5助攻8.5抄3.5鍋
[結論] 17勇士4-2 or 4-1擊敗85湖人
1987湖人跟1985時一樣, 但場均助攻從32.5降到了26.7
所以結論也跟1985一樣, 勇士獲勝
1988湖人4-3擊敗活賽衛冕, 但http://imgur.com/a/NRWqC
這支已經老化的王者之師完全無法跟17勇士抗衡
※ 引述《jimmy5680 (不太會飛的企鵝)》之銘言:
: 魔術強森說SHOWTIME湖人可以橫掃勇士 格林:哈哈哈
: 文╱STeam
: 季後賽至今仍保持14戰全勝的勇士隊,已經開始被討論是不是史上最強大的團隊之一,不
: 過湖人隊傳奇球星魔術強森(Magic Johnson)似乎無法苟同。
: 近期和昔日教頭萊里(Pat Riley)一同出席一場公開座談會的魔術強森,被女持人問道「
: Showtime湖人VS勇士,誰會贏?」魔術強森想也不想地就說:「當然是我們贏,我們甚至
: 有機會橫掃他們,他們實在太矮小了。」
: 身旁的萊里補充說道:「誰能和賈霸(Kareem Abdul-Jabbar)對決。」魔術強森開玩笑地
: 回應:「Zaza(Zaza Pachulia)…別開玩笑了。」讓現場觀眾頓時哄堂大笑。
: 笑出來的不止現場觀眾,有記者將魔術強森這番話轉述給勇士隊格林(Draymond Green)後
: ,他除了大笑,還是大笑。
: 1979年加入湖人隊後,魔術強森不僅率隊打下5座冠軍盃,明快的攻守轉換節奏,讓湖人
: 的Showtime成為史上最賞心悅目的球風之一,當時的湖人主力球員除了魔術強森和賈霸之
: 外,還有渥錫(James Worthy)、史考特(Byron Scott)、庫柏(Michael Cooper)、湯普森
: (Mychal Thompson)、格林(A.C. Green)等名將,在1981~1990年的9個賽季中,曾經7度
: 闖進總決賽,兼具視覺享受和競爭力。
: 事實上,在去年賽季接受採訪時,魔術強森就已經說過,現在的勇士隊根本沒辦法對付賈
: 霸、渥錫和他,不管是半場陣地戰或快攻,湖人隊都可以打趴勇士。
: 即使勇士今年多了杜蘭特(Kevin Durant),魔術強森的信心依舊強大,您覺得呢?
: http://bit.ly/2sRiMN3
: 附註一下,英文的報導有引述Draymond Green對這件事的意見,
: 他說的是「不同規則下根本無法比較」、「Showtime和我們都在自己的時代很偉大」,
: 不知道為什麼中文新聞只寫他在大笑。
: 英文原文是這篇:http://nwsdy.li/2sRfLfE
--
這一點跟現在的勇士很像, 所以我們來看看當時的湖人到底能不能打敗16-17年勇士
但Magic的湖人拿過五次總冠軍, 我們先來挑出哪一次奪冠的ShowTime湖人最強
先說結論: 82湖人 > 17勇士 = 80湖人 > 85湖人 > 87湖人 > 88湖人 -------
(1) 一樣雙MVP, 一樣4個人都是無法限制, 所以取決於團隊防守
(2) 82&80&85湖人都跟17勇士同類型, 但82湖人有最好的進攻籃板跟禁區防守跟抄截火鍋
-------------------
1980: 4-2擊敗76人奪冠, Finals場均盒子 http://imgur.com/a/jcs3D
特色1: 湖人27次助攻 9.2抄截 6.2火鍋 vs 勇士32.5助攻 8.5抄截 3.5火鍋
特色2: 雙後衛MJ跟Nixon場均8.7+7.0助攻 vs 勇士Curry 10.5+KD 7.05助攻
特色3: 1980時幾乎不砍三分, 6場下來湖人4中0, 76人16中1
特色4: 湖人場均51.3極高籃板總數, 進攻籃板場均17.2顆!
--> 80湖人對戰17勇士可能狀況
(1) Jabbar場均4.6顆火鍋太驚人->勇士禁區得分銳減
(2) 勇士火鍋主要靠KD跟嘴綠無法在湖人面前逞能 ->場均火鍋銳減, 禁區防守下降
(3) 湖人提升餵球給禁區的Jabbar比例 ->團隊助攻提升, Jabbar各人得分提升
(4) 嘴綠在禁區敵不過Jabbar跟MJ, 籃板下降, 得分下降, 更多外圍組織傳導
(5) 湖人被迫拉開防守範圍去守勇士三分,
勇士得分方式變三分為主, 再來切入中距離跳投, 再來切入後買犯
[結論] 湖人的禁區 pk 勇士的三分
81湖人 pk 17勇士, 五五波, 誰都可能勝出, 勝負看勇士的三分能準幾場
但輸的那隊起碼系列賽能搶得兩勝 (4-2 or 4-3的結果)
1982: 4-2擊敗76人奪冠, Finals場均盒子 http://imgur.com/a/6Ig3k
特色1: 34歲的Jabbar已經出現退化, 但這支湖人卻較1980更強
特色2: 6人場均得分雙位數團隊得分來到112, 31助攻10.7抄截7.0火鍋, 真正的攻守一體
特色3: 湖人112分31.3助攻10.7抄截7.0火鍋 vs 勇士122.5分32.5助攻8.5抄截3.5火鍋
特色4: 湖人場均進攻籃板18.33顆! (這季勇士兩場場均12顆)
特色5: 湖人只有Jabbar跟魔術(6'9")有身高優勢, 其餘位置勇士有身高優勢
--> 82湖人對戰17勇士可能狀況
(1) 幾乎同屬性的兩支球隊, 但進攻籃板 & 抄截 & 火鍋都是湖人較強 ->勇士得分下降
(2) 除了Jabbar外的主力都在30歲以下可以追上勇士的傳導, Jabbar依舊有場均3.2火鍋
也讓勇士禁區得分下降, 22歲的魔術就是顛峰期的LeBron (16.2分10.8版8助攻2.5抄截)
(3) 湖人依舊精良的禁區&團隊防守, 迫使勇士把三分投射的比例再提高
(4) 這支湖人有6人得分>13, 團隊傳導不輸勇士
[結論] 兩隊都有雙MVP, 這四位也都是無人可以限制的 (Jabbar, MJ/KD,Curry)
比拼其他隊友的狀況下, 湖人勝
可以合理的說, 很大機會82湖人可以擊敗17勇士, 勇士應該只能拿下2勝, 最多3勝
1985: 4-2擊敗超賽, Finals場均盒子 http://imgur.com/a/R00oh
湖人新增了James Worthy這位名人堂球星, 整體得分上升了, 但隨著Jabbar的老化, 湖人
的(1)場均進攻籃板下降(42.7), (2)進攻籃板下降(11),禁區防守下降(火鍋4.0)
85湖人115.8分42.7版32助攻9.2抄4火鍋 vs 17勇士122.5分32.5助攻8.5抄3.5鍋
[結論] 17勇士4-2 or 4-1擊敗85湖人
1987湖人跟1985時一樣, 但場均助攻從32.5降到了26.7
所以結論也跟1985一樣, 勇士獲勝
1988湖人4-3擊敗活賽衛冕, 但http://imgur.com/a/NRWqC
這支已經老化的王者之師完全無法跟17勇士抗衡
※ 引述《jimmy5680 (不太會飛的企鵝)》之銘言:
: 魔術強森說SHOWTIME湖人可以橫掃勇士 格林:哈哈哈
: 文╱STeam
: 季後賽至今仍保持14戰全勝的勇士隊,已經開始被討論是不是史上最強大的團隊之一,不
: 過湖人隊傳奇球星魔術強森(Magic Johnson)似乎無法苟同。
: 近期和昔日教頭萊里(Pat Riley)一同出席一場公開座談會的魔術強森,被女持人問道「
: Showtime湖人VS勇士,誰會贏?」魔術強森想也不想地就說:「當然是我們贏,我們甚至
: 有機會橫掃他們,他們實在太矮小了。」
: 身旁的萊里補充說道:「誰能和賈霸(Kareem Abdul-Jabbar)對決。」魔術強森開玩笑地
: 回應:「Zaza(Zaza Pachulia)…別開玩笑了。」讓現場觀眾頓時哄堂大笑。
: 笑出來的不止現場觀眾,有記者將魔術強森這番話轉述給勇士隊格林(Draymond Green)後
: ,他除了大笑,還是大笑。
: 1979年加入湖人隊後,魔術強森不僅率隊打下5座冠軍盃,明快的攻守轉換節奏,讓湖人
: 的Showtime成為史上最賞心悅目的球風之一,當時的湖人主力球員除了魔術強森和賈霸之
: 外,還有渥錫(James Worthy)、史考特(Byron Scott)、庫柏(Michael Cooper)、湯普森
: (Mychal Thompson)、格林(A.C. Green)等名將,在1981~1990年的9個賽季中,曾經7度
: 闖進總決賽,兼具視覺享受和競爭力。
: 事實上,在去年賽季接受採訪時,魔術強森就已經說過,現在的勇士隊根本沒辦法對付賈
: 霸、渥錫和他,不管是半場陣地戰或快攻,湖人隊都可以打趴勇士。
: 即使勇士今年多了杜蘭特(Kevin Durant),魔術強森的信心依舊強大,您覺得呢?
: http://bit.ly/2sRiMN3
: 附註一下,英文的報導有引述Draymond Green對這件事的意見,
: 他說的是「不同規則下根本無法比較」、「Showtime和我們都在自己的時代很偉大」,
: 不知道為什麼中文新聞只寫他在大笑。
: 英文原文是這篇:http://nwsdy.li/2sRfLfE
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