魔術時期跟湖人時期的Shaq哪個比較強 - NBA

By James
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列了這麼多數據 , 不就證明歐肥雖然季後賽數據很漂亮
但主宰力其實不足 , 更證明三連霸時期 Kobe 的重要性
因為唯有 Kobe 能夠發揮 , 湖人才能三連霸
也難怪 R.Horry 評價 H.Olajuwon , S.O'Neal , T.Duncan 時
永遠是 H.Olajuwon 比 S.O'Neal 高一級 , 從你的數據更證明此一點
四大中鋒裡 , 歐肥是最沒有資格抱怨隊友的 ,
在顛峰期身邊一直都有優秀的隊友
隊友沒發揮好 , 如果歐肥是 Leader , 不可能脫離的了責任....
※ 引述《casatwl (Bravo!)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《iphone15 (哀鳳15)》之銘言:
: : 標題: [討論] 魔術時期跟湖人時期的Shaq哪個比較強
: : 時間: Mon Feb 13 23:51:36 2017
: : 魔術時期體重比較輕
: : 湖人時期體重比較重
: : 不過看影片打法都差不多
: : 不外乎勾射、硬往裡擠等中鋒基本進攻模式
: : 只是速度快得不像中鋒
: : Shaq在湖人時期自稱MDE
: : 但看命中率魔術時期也是高得可怕
: : 究竟魔術時期的shaq比較強還是湖人時期比較強?
: : Shaq是在湖人變胖防守者頂不住才變更強了嗎?
: : 還是其實他在魔術時期就已經MDE了?
: : 畢竟兩個時期的打法感覺都差不多
: : Shaq去湖人好像也沒使用其他新技巧
: : 之前也有版友po數據顯示大夢跟大歐當年是互爆的
: : 大夢當年也守不住歐瘦
: : 公牛後來幹掉魔術
: : 有人記得當時Shaq有被小蟲鎖住嗎?
: 當然是湖人時期的 O'Neal 統治力最高啊!
: 進入現代籃球以來 (從 1979-80 開始算),O'Neal 是唯二曾經帶隊三連霸的球星,
: 這種統治力 Magic Johnson 與 Larry Bird 都沒辦到過。
: 魔術時期的 O'Neal 策應能力還沒長好;
: 面對包夾時的球權處理技巧與經驗都不夠,常會發生低級失誤;
: 要位能力也還沒達到頂尖。
: Rodman 從來沒有單防守住 O'Neal 過,要論 1996 季後賽的話,
: Longley 比他還有資格說:我限制住 O'Neal。
: : 推 Yukirin : 要從巔峰歐肥身上搶冠軍 都是限制住隊友 02/13 23:54
: Y 大推的才是重點。巔峰時期的湖人隊 O'Neal,敵隊只能限制住他的隊友,
: 很少能限制住 O'Neal。
: 我們來看看巔峰時期的湖人隊 O'Neal,季後賽都是怎麼輸掉的。
: : 推 megumirei : 98年湖人4個全明星 絕士才馬龍1個 還是掃掉 02/14 00:48
: : → megumirei : 歐肥被馬龍橫掃都是隊友太弱 老大拖累的XD 口以嗎 02/14 03:28
: : 推 megumirei : 帶隊就要負責 就像甜瓜LBJ輸球 不用找理由吧@@? 02/14 03:38
: 1997-98 球季,O'Neal 帶隊的湖人拿下 61 勝,西區決賽被爵士隊橫掃出局。
: O'Neal 在系列賽打出場均 31.8 分、9.3 籃板與 56% 的命中率。
: 為什麼會被橫掃呢?
: 是因為湖人隊季賽時聯盟頂尖的三分球,被爵士隊守到哭出來。
: 季賽團隊三分命中率 35.1%,面對爵士隊的防守只剩下 25.7%。
: 季賽三分球投的虎虎生風的 Kobe、Eddie Jones、Nick Van Exel、Fisher,
: 怎麼面對爵士隊的外圍防守時全部一起軟手呢?
: O'Neal 帶隊打出準 30 + 10 的成績,外帶 56% 的命中率,
: 球隊老大已經爆了爵士隊的禁區,
: 為什麼季賽射的很爽的湖人射手群沒有一起射爆爵士隊外線防守呢?
: 鄉民看到 Jordan 在 1998 Finals 面對爵士隊的外圍防守打出的成績,
: 乍看之下爵士隊外圍防守好像不怎樣,可是爵士這組外圍防守
: 當年把才華洋溢的湖人隊明星後場鎖的死死的。
: 這樣就可以知道當年 Jordan 有多神了。
: ---------------------------
: 1999 年季後賽,O'Neal 又被橫掃了。這一次湖人隊引以為傲的三分外線再度
: 被馬刺給守住。而湖人隊的 Rice 與 Kobe 也被馬刺盯的死死的。
: 1999 Western Conference Semifinals
: FGA FG% Pts Reb Ast TOV
: O'Neal 16.75 49.3 23.8 13.0 0.5 2.25
: Kobe 19.00 44.7 21.3 6.5 3.5 4.75
: Rice 14.75 37.3 18.0 4.3 1.0 1.00
: O'Neal 面對 Robinson 與 Duncan 組成的馬刺禁區,破壞力被限制住,
: 算是少數能夠限制住巔峰 O'Neal 破壞力的系列賽。
: Robinson 與 Duncan 兩位 DPOY (雖然 Duncan 沒拿過 DPOY) 等級的防守連線,
: 當時守的聯盟內線叫苦連天。
: Rice 外線軟手,完全沒有打出湖人隊希望他帶來的效果。
: 當時 Kobe 的出手數就已經超越 O'Neal 了!!
: 湖人隊這個系列賽總共失誤 57 次,而 Kobe 就佔了 19 次之多,三分之一的量。
: 當年馬刺隊外圍沒有什麼超強的防守專家,可是 Rice 與 Kobe 還是無法攻堅。
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: 2003 Western Conference Semifinals
: FGA FG% Pts Reb Ast TOV PER 季賽PER
: O'Neal 17.00 55.9 25.3 14.3 3.7 3.50 32.9 29.5
: Kobe 26.50 43.4 32.3 5.0 3.7 4.50 21.6 26.2
: Duncan 20.17 52.9 28.0 11.8 4.8 2.17 30.2 26.9
: O'Neal 出手數最少,可是這個系列賽兩隊的球員裡面,
: 他的表現最好,效率也優於季賽。
: O'Neal 面對馬刺雙塔組成的禁區防守,能打出這種成績真是非人哉!
: Duncan 沒話說,打出驚人的成績,效率也優於季賽。
: Kobe 場均出手數多了 O'Neal 快十次,可是效率低落,效率比季賽差上許多。
: 更不用說第六場比賽,Kobe 得 20 分、6 助攻與 7 失誤,
: 直接讓湖人隊的四連霸美夢破碎。
: Bowen 守的 Kobe 效率低落,Kobe 又不想要進入以往三連霸的 OK 連線
: 勝利方程式,於是就只能一直打鐵與失誤。
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: : → theowing : 下滑的Shaq帳面上被Big Ben限制 02/14 02:18
: : → theowing : 其實是Sheed在西區交手多年知道跟Prince何時該內縮 02/14 02:19
: 2004 Finals
: FGA FG% Pts Reb Ast TOV PER 季賽PER
: O'Neal 16.80 63.1 26.6 10.8 1.6 2.80 27.3 24.4
: Kobe 22.60 38.1 22.6 2.8 4.4 3.60 15.0 23.7
: O'Neal 場均出手數少了 Kobe 快六次的情況下,
: 面對聯盟裡令人聞風喪膽、雙蛙為主軸的禁區防守,依然打出優於季賽的效率。
: 不知道為什麼總是會聽到 O'Neal 被活塞限制住的傳聞,
: 場均 26.6 分,命中率 63%,10.8 籃板,PER 27.3 也優於季賽。
: 真的很好奇這種說法的根據是?
: Kobe 面對 Prince 的防守,Kobe 自己效率低落,
: 即使瘋狂打鐵,也不願與 O'Neal 連線。
: -----------------------------------
: 綜觀湖人隊 1999、2003 與 2004 的季後賽,難怪江湖上會有一個傳言:
: 想要限制住 O'Neal,最佳的辦法就是讓 Kobe 一直投、一直投、一直投。
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