青黃不接,中華男籃換血很痛苦 - 籃球
By Susan
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推 umie: 一直覺得找歸化來提升成績都是虛的07/18 16:15
推 umie: 中國、伊朗都沒有歸化,成績還是頂尖07/18 16:20
推 umie: 亞錦賽1960年到現在沒有一個冠軍隊伍有歸化球員07/18 16:23
中國,伊朗自身籃球實力就強大是一個原因,當然,你有能力光靠本土球員就強大
到可以稱霸亞洲,至少長年位居領先集團,你要有骨氣說不靠歸化沒人敢說什麼。
但請記得一件事情,比賽沒人在嫌實力太強的。不然美國幹嘛每年都徵召 NBA球員
,不只徵召,還非得要找 KD、LBJ、Melo這種大咖?已經從很多次國際賽可見,近
年只要培訓得宜,美國不必徵召最頂尖的12個球員就足以在國際賽稱霸,那為什麼
他們還是要從最頂尖的那幾個大咖開始詢問徵召意願?
因為沒人會嫌自己實力太強。
卡在眼前的事實是,外籍球員要取得中國籍或伊朗籍都非常困難,再來還要考慮其
他國家的球員願不願意取得中國籍或伊朗籍,如果今天中國和伊朗的歸化不用那麼
難,他們會不會請歸化?
你說歸化提升成績都是虛的,你知道歐亞各國有多少國家都在用歸化球員嗎?所以
他們的成績都是虛的嗎?
推 umie: 15年用歸化拿第13名,不需要花這個錢07/18 19:18
→ umie: 職業隊也拿來跟《國家》隊比也太好笑07/18 19:20
太好笑?你看不懂的比喻就叫做太好笑嗎?
不論是NBA的國際球員,或是FIBA裡各國的歸化球員,都只證明一件事。
就是只要是合乎規定,能夠提升戰力的方法都值得嘗試,而且從各個例子都可以看
見,這些提升戰力的方法真的值得使用。
台灣或菲律賓就是生不出200+又足以在籃球場上擁有充分實力的長人,所以才需要
歸化。歐洲就是生不出像美國後衛那樣具有速度與侵略性的後衛,所以才需要歸化
。當你的國家就是生不出你戰力上的缺口,你就可以選擇歸化。
歸化是FIBA為了提升國與國之間戰力的差距,而讓各國可以合理提升自己實力的方
法,為什麼非得被你扣成這樣的成績「是虛的」?
推 umie: 不用扣什麼帽子,合規定的提升實力=第四名》第十三名07/18 19:32
→ umie: 前面也有人提到教練問題,這才是真的討論07/18 19:34
→ umie: 一下扯nba,一下open book07/18 19:35
→ umie: 還扯糗爺信徒,針對問題討論那麼難?07/18 19:37
第四名會變成第十三名,但你知道如果沒有戴維斯,根本就沒有2013的第四名嗎?
如果你不靠歸化球員就可以長年待在第四名,用了歸化球員卻反而跌到第十三名,
才多少有那麼一點立足點說歸化「是虛的」吧?
假設籃協不用心歸化,找一個對於實力沒有幫助的歸化球員,那是籃協的問題,也
絕對不是「歸化」這個規則的問題,更不代表歸化「是虛的」。
推 umie: 扯東扯西跟人提邏輯,我有說歸化沒用?07/18 20:09
→ umie: 名次落差那麼大不就很明顯是虛的嗎 07/18 20:10
→ umie: 教練的問題不就是一點,標題那麼大的青黃不接不是問題 07/18 20:10
→ umie: 嗎?歸化一個洋將等於壓縮台灣中鋒在國際賽磨練的時間07/18 20:12
我想你應該知道可以在登錄名單內的歸化球員,一國只限一人,如果你清楚這件事
情,還拿歸化來說「壓縮台灣中鋒」就更不合邏輯。
亞洲籃球風氣還沒厲害到能帶動另一波潮流,各國都還在使用基本兩個禁區球員的
配置,兩個禁區球員的球風如何是另一回事,但是一個歸化球員就算天生神力也就
只能吃掉其中一個位置的40分鐘。
那另一個禁區球員的40分鐘怎麼辦?
就是給你口中的台灣長人啊。
因為田壘、曾文鼎都擁有非常出色的高位能力,所以歸化一個戴維斯去低位就能相
輔相成。如果今天台灣的禁區長人都只會低位,再來討論是否要歸化一個擁有高位
能力的長人(例如Andray Blatche)吧?
你自己看看台灣檯面上擁有的長人,甚至再往下看台灣接下來幾個世代擁有的長人
,你覺得他們有能力吃光禁區每場總共80分鐘的時間還能保有充足的對抗性而不需
要歸化球員嗎?
磨練?
台灣花了幾十年,才出現稍微不會讓禁區被吃乾抹淨的曾文鼎田壘和吳岱豪,直到
現在他們三個都差不多快退了,我們還是只能講曾文鼎田壘吳岱豪,為什麼?
因為台灣生產200+長人就是困難,近年就算生了也只是劉元凱李德威吳宏興之流,
你說接下來有吳沛嘉、孫思堯、譚傑龍,然後呢?
擁有曾田吳的台灣禁區都還需要戴維斯,你覺得吳沛嘉孫思堯譚傑龍就能讓台灣不
需要歸化球員?
磨練?你現在就讓孫思堯去打,不要說哈達迪了,就算打吳世根、金鐘奎、李宗泫
,這種叢林法則真的能練到什麼東西嗎?
→ umie: 一直歸化下去,就算有曾吳的天賦也會被洋將掩蓋07/18 20:16
→ umie: 一直不懂嗎 所以才說是虛的07/18 20:21
首先,我不認為你知道2015的台灣籃球到底發生什麼狀況。
客觀來說,2015的國家隊就注定是個屎缺,因為2013的成績太好,你很難超越,再
來,整體培訓體系的改變,這一年的教練團不見得能知人善用,最後,戴維斯經歷
過嚴重傷勢,實力顯然和2013健康又在熟悉的體系無法相比。
加上預賽分組沒有軟柿子可吃,連安穩踏進12強都困難重重,更別說是八強以上。
台灣青黃不接?對。因為過去幾年我們一直沒有辦法順利讓年輕梯隊接班,只能一
再燃燒黃金世代的所有戰力,而十年前讓這批黃金世代無役不與的影響在這兩年自
食惡果,明明是台灣史上最有天分的一批球員,卻在剛過30就不知累積多少傷勢在
身上,導致我們必須提前面對接班問題,卻又沒有夠好的接班人選。
但是正因如此,只要花錢就能解決且一切合法的歸化更是一切的根本,擁有合理的
歸化與合理的培訓體系,即使是年輕的二軍也能在2014亞洲盃拿到銀牌,假如沒有
戴維斯,你真以為林郅為、李德威、陳冠全,就能對抗竹內兄弟、Arghavan、陶漢
林,更不用說Douthit了。
→ umie: 曾吳也經過大換血過,假如當時有歸化,有現在的他們嗎?07/18 20:24
當時沒有歸化,所以即使曾田吳在陣,我們還是有很多時間會看到陳信安、簡浩、
毛加恩、何守正等人上場擔任「禁區球員」。
你覺得如果有歸化球員,他們就會讓曾田吳完全沒時間上場嗎?又反過來,2013、
2014有戴維斯的情況下,曾文鼎、田壘、吳岱豪哪一個人有少上場了?
FIBA籃球一場比賽40分鐘,一場比賽有兩個禁區位置總共80分鐘,而歸化球員就算
通通不用休息也還有40分鐘。更多情況下台灣長人還有至少50分鐘要分。
我只知道,如果當時有歸化,曾田吳不見得會在30以前就渾身是傷,不會在30以前
就過勞,不會在過了30就一直被逼著要退休。
既然你不要我們說比喻就不說比喻直接講結論。歸化是FIBA給予各國合理且合法提
升實力的規則,你要不要用這個規則隨便你,但是如果你的成績爛,絕對不是這個
規則的問題,也不代表什麼「用這個規則的成績是虛的」。
就只是你的成績爛而已。
用歸化不是萬靈丹,但不用歸化,以台灣的實力,就是活該只能等在後段班。別忘
了,近代最好的國際賽成績,都是在擁有歸化球員的情況下完成的。
不要像義和團一樣總是認為土法煉鋼赤手空拳就能對抗船堅炮利,籃球是很吃天分
的運動,台灣沒辦法擁有足以負擔國際賽規格的中鋒,所以歸化原本就是合理合法
且台灣必須要使用才能和國際競爭的方法。
而且,歸化了就是我們台灣人,台灣人替台灣打出來的成績就是台灣的成績,沒有
什麼「是虛的」。
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