阿山哥現在在想什麼? - 網球 Tennis
By Olive
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at 2019-01-29T23:25
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很多人說用大滿貫紀錄來看,費豆囧已經超越山了,如果純粹以"數量"紀錄來看,那是超
越了沒錯,但必須了解時代背景,否則只是表象上的判斷。
根據我查到的資料,那時代大滿貫地位相較下沒現在那麼受重視,比如那時很多人會因為
飛機太麻煩跳過澳網不打,有幾年甚至只有5位top 20參加。
山在1988年轉職業,可是直到那年澳網還是草地,然後直到1995年(山已經24歲),澳網
仍不但獎金少,連選手得到的積分也比其他大滿貫少。1995年澳網決賽Andre Agassi對決
Pete Sampras時超多人觀看,比完後McNamee就跑去跟ATP說應該要調高澳網積分,ATP
後來有同意,但條件是比須把澳網的獎金調成Super 9(現在的Masters 1000)的兩倍,然
後直到澳網獎金達標後,才受到ATP認可、漸漸有了跟其他大滿貫相同的地位。
也就是山哥大部分的職業生涯裡,大滿貫數量並不是特別被傳頌的紀錄,一個溫網可能可
以抵好幾個澳網,在這時代背景下,直接比較大滿貫數量完全不客觀。
除了時代重視程度外,還有可能因為醫學、運動科學等因素,現在網球選手顯然比那時壽
命更長,難道因為選手體質普遍比較好嗎?當然不是,而是因為醫療的進步。也就是山因
為受到了時代的限制,可以輝煌的時間本質上就比較短。比如50年後,說不定60歲老人都
可以肉體改造跟25歲一樣繼續打,那時候可能紀錄50個大滿貫也不是問題,但要用那時候
的紀錄來說超越費的紀錄,帳面上成立但內在並不合理。
除了職業壽命長短,還有現在選收都普遍「各場地通吃」,雖然我也不知為什麼會這樣,
但這顯然不是因為現在選手比較優秀,而是某種時代上的限制,你要山突然間突破時代限
制,跟現在選手一樣每個場地都精通,顯然不合道理。
所以結論就是,用大滿貫的紀錄來看,完全不能認定費納囧的成就比山還要高,個體不可
能突然瞬間超越時代,頂多比時代高出50%,就像山哥一樣代領大家追逐滿貫紀錄,成為了
一個時代的巨人。
※ 引述《chathin (確幸)》之銘言:
: 猶記得十年前
: 山普拉斯還是前無古人的開放年代14座大滿貫
: 被稱為網球goat
: 沒想到後有來者,還一次來三個
: 十年後的現在竟然有三個人超越他
: 囧 15
: 豆 17
: 費 20
: 本來山普拉斯是個指標
: 現在搞得好像沒人在討論他了
: 他現在在想什麼?
--
越了沒錯,但必須了解時代背景,否則只是表象上的判斷。
根據我查到的資料,那時代大滿貫地位相較下沒現在那麼受重視,比如那時很多人會因為
飛機太麻煩跳過澳網不打,有幾年甚至只有5位top 20參加。
山在1988年轉職業,可是直到那年澳網還是草地,然後直到1995年(山已經24歲),澳網
仍不但獎金少,連選手得到的積分也比其他大滿貫少。1995年澳網決賽Andre Agassi對決
Pete Sampras時超多人觀看,比完後McNamee就跑去跟ATP說應該要調高澳網積分,ATP
後來有同意,但條件是比須把澳網的獎金調成Super 9(現在的Masters 1000)的兩倍,然
後直到澳網獎金達標後,才受到ATP認可、漸漸有了跟其他大滿貫相同的地位。
也就是山哥大部分的職業生涯裡,大滿貫數量並不是特別被傳頌的紀錄,一個溫網可能可
以抵好幾個澳網,在這時代背景下,直接比較大滿貫數量完全不客觀。
除了時代重視程度外,還有可能因為醫學、運動科學等因素,現在網球選手顯然比那時壽
命更長,難道因為選手體質普遍比較好嗎?當然不是,而是因為醫療的進步。也就是山因
為受到了時代的限制,可以輝煌的時間本質上就比較短。比如50年後,說不定60歲老人都
可以肉體改造跟25歲一樣繼續打,那時候可能紀錄50個大滿貫也不是問題,但要用那時候
的紀錄來說超越費的紀錄,帳面上成立但內在並不合理。
除了職業壽命長短,還有現在選收都普遍「各場地通吃」,雖然我也不知為什麼會這樣,
但這顯然不是因為現在選手比較優秀,而是某種時代上的限制,你要山突然間突破時代限
制,跟現在選手一樣每個場地都精通,顯然不合道理。
所以結論就是,用大滿貫的紀錄來看,完全不能認定費納囧的成就比山還要高,個體不可
能突然瞬間超越時代,頂多比時代高出50%,就像山哥一樣代領大家追逐滿貫紀錄,成為了
一個時代的巨人。
※ 引述《chathin (確幸)》之銘言:
: 猶記得十年前
: 山普拉斯還是前無古人的開放年代14座大滿貫
: 被稱為網球goat
: 沒想到後有來者,還一次來三個
: 十年後的現在竟然有三個人超越他
: 囧 15
: 豆 17
: 費 20
: 本來山普拉斯是個指標
: 現在搞得好像沒人在討論他了
: 他現在在想什麼?
--
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