謝淑薇再爭什麼? - 網球 Tennis
By Jake
at 2016-08-11T20:30
at 2016-08-11T20:30
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以下個人看法僅供參考
網協部分:
改規則這件事本來就是可大可小,因為網協不屬政府機關。
如果是政府機關,改法令就沒這麼簡單,也不是說改就改。
但是協會改規則是絕對ok的。
主要是網協的態度,實際上這屆的規則就是改了
網協劉秘書長卻聲稱三屆都一樣,甚至跟謝淑薇回應2012就是排名最好
鬼話連篇的謝秘書長會這樣處理,顯然就是要掩蓋改規則的事實
那為什麼又要改規則又扯謊?
我的判斷就是怕人質疑不公正,會被上級檢討
至於是不是因詹家設事,各位有大腦的鄉民自行判斷
劉中興大可以強硬說,網協的流程都是合法的
就算檢討也是檢討流程的瑕疵,可是他這樣扯謊的表現,顯然是做賊心虛
那會不會因為網協出包,就被大檢討,甚至劉秘書長整個黑掉被封殺
我個人看法到體育署都是差不多,官官相護,天下烏鴉一般黑
到現在,有哪個大官說要檢討劉賜爵?
劉中興鬼扯蛋秘書長甚至在節目上證明謝有提出退賽
卻把申請退賽的業務推到中華奧會,實際上還是要跟網協申請
其實,你我他非參與者都不見得知道這些程序
所以就任由劉中興鬼扯,標準的卸責達人(這種人實在看過太多了)
個人認為能入圍的就是那幾隻貓,
設這好幾條規則好像是很多選手入圍一樣
更別說2008跟2012都只有3人,甚至北京奧運3人還弄一個詹元順放生盧彥勳
我是認為國家隊,教練是帶整個團,其實不應該有這種狀況發生
但個人覺得很奇怪的是,為什麼2012只有三位選手,卻有兩位教練(非P卡)
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謝淑薇部分:
先強調本人不是謝迷,看網球也只是個人觀賞職業賽事(MLB、NBA、MotoGP...)其中之一
目前網球也只看溫布頓,以前還會看法網,
大概是Federer、Nadal、Roddick殺得死去活來的那個年代
更早期也看Sampras、Agassi...
那時只覺得Sampras發球很帥、Agassi光頭很屌
還跑去買Agassi的鞋子跟衣服,可以說是標準的腦粉。
職業選手,講"溫良恭儉讓"根本就是個屁
當然像很多選手也會回饋國家,但回饋這件事跟個人個性沒什麼關係
像賽車界的Rossi還成立賽車學院培育車手
但講他是道德個性很好的選手? 只能說這真的扯太遠了....
看到謝黑鄉民用一種超級規格的道德標準去對待謝淑薇
只有一種感覺......小屁孩見識太淺
沒出過社會表現得一副老子就是屁孩
另一方面也可以說是國民黨教育遺毒,因為國民黨就是說一套做一套
當然要講民進黨也有,我也不否認
反正台灣社會說一套高規格標準,私底下勾心鬥角
只能說這種人多的是,基本上大學就有這種態勢
小屁孩當兵之後或是出社會之後就知道,懶得多說
本人看待謝淑薇的反應,基本上就是"情緒"問題
她一開始可能沒有要打雙打,反正配莊的機會也沒詹詹大
非實力高低問題,因為雙打本來就有配合的問題
有可能是協會在第二輪幫莊謝報名,當時謝也沒反對
教練問題一出,協會又抹黑胡扯,她整個就不爽
所以就說當初沒報雙打,要退出而且要協會自己處理
這完全看起來就是情緒反應
有人說,為什麼謝當初不想打雙打,又去凹以前的規則
規則不看情緒反應跟個人意願,只看事實的既存
她認為就以往規則,應該是最有資格選教練的選手
其實檯面上就看到FB那些發言,跟拍桌為國相忍
應該是檯面下有多協調不成,所以拿了P卡又退雙打,現在又退賽
她的失策在於親上火線,因為情緒暴露出很多弱點
謝淑薇就只是一個人類,31歲對我來講也是小妹妹而已
情緒能承受的本來就有限,俗話說旁觀者清
若有人幫她處理這些鳥事,可以專心練球,情況就會差很多
不過能幫她處理的有誰?她爸的表現也滿白癡的XD
那她的訴求合不合理
如果把聖人改革者這個大帽子扣在她身上,什麼看起都是不合理
對很多人來講,追求自己的最大利益就是合理
何況規則變更就是有很多瑕疵,才有得讓她這樣鬧
有人會認為規則就是規則,有什麼好瑕疵的
1. 有沒有瑕疵不是你說了算,也沒有完全沒有瑕疵的規則
2. 詹元良代表女團教練就是一種瑕疵,讓2008的事件重蹈覆轍
3. 就算由協會指定教練,選手也會覺得是瑕疵,不過多人就以公平為原則
4. 以奪牌機會最大這種功利主義配教練,其實謝退賽又何仿?
規則只要公正,她要鬧也沒機會,管她是歷來成績最好的選手
她要胡鬧風向也完全會燒向她
但也不見得要扣她多大道德的帽子
說她傲嬌、任性、什麼都只想到自己
這些情緒過大的反應,其實滿普遍的
難不成鄉民都沒有這些道德的缺陷? 不過誠如前文所講
國民黨教育遺毒,說一套做一套
雖然說莊很衰,但這不能說完全是謝的問題
只能說要怪一個人很容易,要看清楚事實很難
不過被錯誤資訊引導的鄉民說謝carry莊進奧運資格
FB被洗版真的滿雖小的,不過這不是謝的問題,是鄉民水準的問題
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網協部分:
改規則這件事本來就是可大可小,因為網協不屬政府機關。
如果是政府機關,改法令就沒這麼簡單,也不是說改就改。
但是協會改規則是絕對ok的。
主要是網協的態度,實際上這屆的規則就是改了
網協劉秘書長卻聲稱三屆都一樣,甚至跟謝淑薇回應2012就是排名最好
鬼話連篇的謝秘書長會這樣處理,顯然就是要掩蓋改規則的事實
那為什麼又要改規則又扯謊?
我的判斷就是怕人質疑不公正,會被上級檢討
至於是不是因詹家設事,各位有大腦的鄉民自行判斷
劉中興大可以強硬說,網協的流程都是合法的
就算檢討也是檢討流程的瑕疵,可是他這樣扯謊的表現,顯然是做賊心虛
那會不會因為網協出包,就被大檢討,甚至劉秘書長整個黑掉被封殺
我個人看法到體育署都是差不多,官官相護,天下烏鴉一般黑
到現在,有哪個大官說要檢討劉賜爵?
劉中興鬼扯蛋秘書長甚至在節目上證明謝有提出退賽
卻把申請退賽的業務推到中華奧會,實際上還是要跟網協申請
其實,你我他非參與者都不見得知道這些程序
所以就任由劉中興鬼扯,標準的卸責達人(這種人實在看過太多了)
個人認為能入圍的就是那幾隻貓,
設這好幾條規則好像是很多選手入圍一樣
更別說2008跟2012都只有3人,甚至北京奧運3人還弄一個詹元順放生盧彥勳
我是認為國家隊,教練是帶整個團,其實不應該有這種狀況發生
但個人覺得很奇怪的是,為什麼2012只有三位選手,卻有兩位教練(非P卡)
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謝淑薇部分:
先強調本人不是謝迷,看網球也只是個人觀賞職業賽事(MLB、NBA、MotoGP...)其中之一
目前網球也只看溫布頓,以前還會看法網,
大概是Federer、Nadal、Roddick殺得死去活來的那個年代
更早期也看Sampras、Agassi...
那時只覺得Sampras發球很帥、Agassi光頭很屌
還跑去買Agassi的鞋子跟衣服,可以說是標準的腦粉。
職業選手,講"溫良恭儉讓"根本就是個屁
當然像很多選手也會回饋國家,但回饋這件事跟個人個性沒什麼關係
像賽車界的Rossi還成立賽車學院培育車手
但講他是道德個性很好的選手? 只能說這真的扯太遠了....
看到謝黑鄉民用一種超級規格的道德標準去對待謝淑薇
只有一種感覺......小屁孩見識太淺
沒出過社會表現得一副老子就是屁孩
另一方面也可以說是國民黨教育遺毒,因為國民黨就是說一套做一套
當然要講民進黨也有,我也不否認
反正台灣社會說一套高規格標準,私底下勾心鬥角
只能說這種人多的是,基本上大學就有這種態勢
小屁孩當兵之後或是出社會之後就知道,懶得多說
本人看待謝淑薇的反應,基本上就是"情緒"問題
她一開始可能沒有要打雙打,反正配莊的機會也沒詹詹大
非實力高低問題,因為雙打本來就有配合的問題
有可能是協會在第二輪幫莊謝報名,當時謝也沒反對
教練問題一出,協會又抹黑胡扯,她整個就不爽
所以就說當初沒報雙打,要退出而且要協會自己處理
這完全看起來就是情緒反應
有人說,為什麼謝當初不想打雙打,又去凹以前的規則
規則不看情緒反應跟個人意願,只看事實的既存
她認為就以往規則,應該是最有資格選教練的選手
其實檯面上就看到FB那些發言,跟拍桌為國相忍
應該是檯面下有多協調不成,所以拿了P卡又退雙打,現在又退賽
她的失策在於親上火線,因為情緒暴露出很多弱點
謝淑薇就只是一個人類,31歲對我來講也是小妹妹而已
情緒能承受的本來就有限,俗話說旁觀者清
若有人幫她處理這些鳥事,可以專心練球,情況就會差很多
不過能幫她處理的有誰?她爸的表現也滿白癡的XD
那她的訴求合不合理
如果把聖人改革者這個大帽子扣在她身上,什麼看起都是不合理
對很多人來講,追求自己的最大利益就是合理
何況規則變更就是有很多瑕疵,才有得讓她這樣鬧
有人會認為規則就是規則,有什麼好瑕疵的
1. 有沒有瑕疵不是你說了算,也沒有完全沒有瑕疵的規則
2. 詹元良代表女團教練就是一種瑕疵,讓2008的事件重蹈覆轍
3. 就算由協會指定教練,選手也會覺得是瑕疵,不過多人就以公平為原則
4. 以奪牌機會最大這種功利主義配教練,其實謝退賽又何仿?
規則只要公正,她要鬧也沒機會,管她是歷來成績最好的選手
她要胡鬧風向也完全會燒向她
但也不見得要扣她多大道德的帽子
說她傲嬌、任性、什麼都只想到自己
這些情緒過大的反應,其實滿普遍的
難不成鄉民都沒有這些道德的缺陷? 不過誠如前文所講
國民黨教育遺毒,說一套做一套
雖然說莊很衰,但這不能說完全是謝的問題
只能說要怪一個人很容易,要看清楚事實很難
不過被錯誤資訊引導的鄉民說謝carry莊進奧運資格
FB被洗版真的滿雖小的,不過這不是謝的問題,是鄉民水準的問題
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