誰是「努力」這方面的GOAT - NBA

By Jessica
at 2020-10-18T17:52

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最近吵得沸沸揚揚的GOAT爭論
讓我聯想到若是不仰賴身體素質
誰在努力、態度上能夠成為你認同的第一呢
我指的是身體素質在聯盟屬於中、甚至後段班
但卻依靠著自身堅持不懈的訓練成長為ALL STAR
或是天賦屬於前段班
更能突破極限成為聯盟招牌的人
我最先想到的人大概是吉巴了吧
從一開始就不被看好
在首輪末才被撿走
身高普通、彈跳力平平（抱歉這裡我沒有查數據
可能是因為短臂和身高劣勢我才會認為他的彈跳高度不算出眾
在此更正）
前幾年在灰狼、七六人等球隊徘徊
甚至一度被認為是聲仔
但今年卻帶著一群新兵一路闖到總冠
不但顯現出他想贏的態度
更證明天賦不夠、努力來湊
也能夠成為明星球員
大家心目中還有誰稱得上是「努力」的天才呢？

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Tags: NBA

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By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-10-20T03:26

除了老大以外 Harden其實也非常努力 Nash也是

By Damian
at 2020-10-23T10:44

nash

By Isla
at 2020-10-23T16:19

這三位都成為了他們所能成為的最強球員了

By Vanessa
at 2020-10-27T08:07

Curry

By Daph Bay
at 2020-10-30T20:32

pippen吧原本雑魚被jordan訓練成第二人

By Lydia
at 2020-11-01T16:05

Kobe 的曼巴精神

By Franklin
at 2020-11-04T01:45

Curry，從路人變成冠軍

By Edith
at 2020-11-07T06:49

LeBron啊私生活超自律也沒有拈花惹草的腥羶新聞

By Kelly
at 2020-11-09T23:21

不就AI

By Suhail Hany
at 2020-11-11T02:24

Lebron戒女色都戒到他太太在抱怨 XD

By Liam
at 2020-11-12T16:37

一天只有24小時努力的極限不會差太多啦

By Harry
at 2020-11-13T22:41

要是論身體素質跟天賦 Jimmy Butler或許是帶隊進總
冠軍戰中最差的
手短彈跳力普通速度也普通

By Zora
at 2020-11-15T04:00

Kobe

By Andrew
at 2020-11-18T20:40

大班 Ben

By Xanthe
at 2020-11-22T12:45

一堆私生活喜歡黃/賭/毒的

By Linda
at 2020-11-25T01:03

近20年還真難想到第二個身為隊上頭號球星身體素質
跟天賦比JB還要鳥的人

By Caroline
at 2020-11-25T09:29

要說努力我推老大自律的話我選石佛

By Linda
at 2020-11-27T04:25

Ben Wallace 、 Alonzo Mourning

By Bennie
at 2020-11-27T14:59

即巴

By Kyle
at 2020-12-02T09:03

士官長滯空性差他爸超多，果然半人半神就是這樣
偷懶這件事老巴也很擅長

By Elma
at 2020-12-06T03:26

偷懶方面的goat是不是歐肥

By Victoria
at 2020-12-06T11:16

只有老大

By Emma
at 2020-12-10T11:00

艾佛森

By Frederica
at 2020-12-13T09:20

kobe curry harden都是不是選秀前3 也沒有身高身
材上的的優勢卻能站穩且拿下mvp殊榮

By Kama
at 2020-12-17T09:59

能進NBA資值會多差我不相信，但努力程度還是有差

By Kelly
at 2020-12-20T01:15

老大

By Eden
at 2020-12-22T07:31

從樂透順位以外挑一個來討論比較有趣

By Rebecca
at 2020-12-23T11:20

Lebron太強壯太聰明了讓一般人不容易看出他有多努
力

By Daph Bay
at 2020-12-24T14:19

Lebron跟Kobe吧

By Ethan
at 2020-12-28T21:04

你看過凌晨四點的天空嗎

By Susan
at 2020-12-31T02:09

https://i.imgur.com/DOclnQl.jpg

By Megan
at 2021-01-01T12:34

矮湯算嗎 NBA60順位第一人

By Kyle
at 2021-01-05T17:33

Kobe好女色 Lebron除了籃球跟賺錢好像沒其他愛好

By Puput
at 2021-01-10T04:47

矮湯 175打nba

By Heather
at 2021-01-10T14:07

哈登不是選秀前三那是第幾?

By Genevieve
at 2021-01-13T11:01

muggsy bogues

By Lucy
at 2021-01-14T21:32

Kobe

By Freda
at 2021-01-17T02:32

By Kumar
at 2021-01-18T15:17

老大吧

By Isabella
at 2021-01-21T19:51

reggie miller

By Regina
at 2021-01-23T12:54

https://i.imgur.com/5V47P6Z.jpg

By Christine
at 2021-01-25T14:00

班蛙蠻適合的

By Valerie
at 2021-01-30T08:27

吉巴可怕的意志力那些狀元榜眼一堆輸他

By Edwina
at 2021-02-02T21:31

我在選擇球隊方面滿努力的自我推薦一下

By Una
at 2021-02-03T15:46

AI這種身高付出的努力要多更多

By Thomas
at 2021-02-05T06:06

樓上真的很會
樓樓上

By Wallis
at 2021-02-05T10:00

姆斯是起點太高不然他的自律程度也是聯盟前幾的

By Mason
at 2021-02-05T19:47

哈登是探花...

By Dinah
at 2021-02-08T04:33

Nash 以體能來說，他根本沒比普通人強多少

By Jacob
at 2021-02-10T14:27

Muggsy Bogues真的很猛，NBA生涯800多場，160公分

By Necoo
at 2021-02-13T01:34

努力這種沒有辦法量化的東西要怎麼goat 難道頂尖的
那些就不努力嗎難道他們的努力會輸給吉巴嗎XD

By Candice
at 2021-02-17T01:25

樂透外的話欸湯今年墮特阿

By Damian
at 2021-02-18T03:47

Curry

By Robert
at 2021-02-21T22:05

能進nba你跟我說體能跟普通人差不多你是瞧不起nash
還是太看得起普通人

By Caroline
at 2021-02-25T19:47

nash

By Barb Cronin
at 2021-02-26T06:05

標題感覺可以改成，沒有頂尖天賦但卻讓你“感到”
最努力的球員是誰，可能比較好討論，努力的Goat實
在是沒什麼好討論

By Edward Lewis
at 2021-02-28T16:08

考量Nash防守強度和高兩寸我推John Stockton

By Enid
at 2021-03-01T17:53

Rose

By Belly
at 2021-03-03T07:46

或許在哪個看不見的角落有個人都一直很認真只是因
身體條件無法踏上最終殿堂欠噓

By Mary
at 2021-03-06T10:25

還在凌晨四點啊？起床尿尿而已啦

By Skylar Davis
at 2021-03-08T12:08

有成績的人努力才會被看見阿

By Bennie
at 2021-03-10T07:39

BOGUES真的誇張 160連系隊都嫌矮

By Olive
at 2021-03-12T09:17

斑蛙

By Brianna
at 2021-03-14T10:27

都說身體素質普通了還能跑出姆斯？

By Hedda
at 2021-03-17T01:30

身體素質普通還能提kobe也是黑人問號

By Daph Bay
at 2021-03-20T14:10

NBA哪來的普通人板凳跟一般人比都是超人了

By Tom
at 2021-03-22T14:17

不用因為kobe甜不辣手就說素質普通...

By Anonymous
at 2021-03-27T11:29

NBA一個發展聯盟的咖小都能屌打SBL
說NBA歷史球星體能跟一般人差不多是啥小

By Regina
at 2021-03-27T18:01

然後SBL的咖屌打一般人....

By Eden
at 2021-03-30T12:49

沒錯籃球的個體差異就是如此巨大...

By Ida
at 2021-04-01T13:08

jolin

By Kyle
at 2021-04-04T06:29

不努力怎麼當NBA球員

By Charlotte
at 2021-04-08T13:08

Kobe

By Queena
at 2021-04-12T03:02

世新丹尼爾應該去美國練看看，他身體素質不錯

By Kumar
at 2021-04-12T09:59

AI只是矮其他天份其實都頂尖的XD

By Thomas
at 2021-04-15T12:42

喇叭啊，自律加努力，曇花開多久了

By Eartha
at 2021-04-18T05:56

NBA有誰不努力？

By Puput
at 2021-04-20T13:47

NBA都不是普通人異於常人

By Rae
at 2021-04-22T16:59

原po問的身體素質在中後段班就排除喇叭了啦

By Mary
at 2021-04-25T21:36

啊不就天賦不足才只能用努力來填補一下看看
歐肥表示

By Tristan Cohan
at 2021-04-30T02:56

Andy Murray

By Queena
at 2021-05-01T17:15

吉巴感覺也可以加入討論了

By Edward Lewis
at 2021-05-02T23:48

而且我忘記是誰說過當你評論一個球員的時候把他評
價為他很努力代表他除了努力外沒什麼好稱讚了XD

By Frederica
at 2021-05-04T01:15

By Ula
at 2021-05-05T01:55

茂野吾郎

By Emily
at 2021-05-07T09:45

每個都是天賦加努力

By Lauren
at 2021-05-10T20:36

By Charlie
at 2021-05-12T03:51

反著問比較有意義誰是不努力界的GOAT

By Sierra Rose
at 2021-05-16T01:20

吉巴

By Isabella
at 2021-05-17T16:37

miller

By Donna
at 2021-05-20T20:20

老實講真的在頂級球星這塊的大致上在努力都不會
少的

By Edith
at 2021-05-21T18:20

以不靠體能靠腦袋來說大鳥應該算得上是

By Wallis
at 2021-05-22T08:49

彈跳平平又來了 39吋垂直彈跳

By Hazel
at 2021-05-23T20:09

By Anthony
at 2021-05-24T01:45

AI明明天賦超高.. 那個爆發力不是一般人能有的

By Kristin
at 2021-05-26T09:27

努力自己宣傳的不少

By Odelette
at 2021-05-29T03:04

A.C. Green

By Hazel
at 2021-06-02T14:48

頂尖的都是天賦加努力的真要找有天賦沒努力的頂
級很難吧俠客算嗎

By Heather
at 2021-06-03T00:33

Rose

By Daniel
at 2021-06-05T18:03

推我羅重複受傷還要慢慢找回球感要花不知道多少時
間

By Skylar Davis
at 2021-06-09T05:02

顆梨的身體素質100%比吉巴差

By Bennie
at 2021-06-10T18:11

Kobe

By Andy
at 2021-06-12T16:28

Kobe

By Delia
at 2021-06-13T18:39

歐肥:天賦夠高，不用努力也屌打你們啦

By Noah
at 2021-06-14T00:08

Kobe Curry JB

By Faithe
at 2021-06-16T21:45

Dirk

By David
at 2021-06-18T02:40

論選腿的研究與用心沒有人比得上品腿師

By Elma
at 2021-06-21T09:06

kobe

By Genevieve
at 2021-06-22T02:53

老詹以前沒現在這麼壯，這議題捨我詹其誰

By Joe
at 2021-06-25T03:43

Andre Wiggins

By Audriana
at 2021-06-28T15:05

吉巴

By Aaliyah
at 2021-06-28T21:01

j.Stockton

By Ida
at 2021-07-02T01:57

jolin

By Lucy
at 2021-07-03T14:10

Jolin Tsai

By Brianna
at 2021-07-07T05:35

Iverson啊。

By Lauren
at 2021-07-07T06:55

Stockton身體也是頂尖啦，打到40歲只缺席22場還不
變態嗎？

By Erin
at 2021-07-10T02:08

覺得是Muggsy Bogues、Nate Robinson這種矮將，能進
NBA還打了蠻多年真的很猛，完全要靠努力啊。

By David
at 2021-07-14T04:24

找第二輪落選的

By Poppy
at 2021-07-18T01:40

NBA頂級球員誰不努力= =

By Queena
at 2021-07-22T06:01

上面要選壯的我選馬龍

By Rosalind
at 2021-07-25T12:32

士官長，彈跳真的很差嗎？我覺得應該還算平均值之上
吧？

By Zora
at 2021-07-28T04:55

小李

By Xanthe
at 2021-07-28T10:31

那個160的真厲害

By Agatha
at 2021-08-01T19:44

AI彈跳最高45英吋耶

By Xanthe
at 2021-08-05T09:49

NBA都很努力怎麼比比成就高嘛???

By Frederic
at 2021-08-06T20:59

速度協調性體力都是頂尖的真的只有身高矮是硬
傷

By Sierra Rose
at 2021-08-08T04:48

搞不好連圍巾場下都很努力只是場上表現不佳

By Thomas
at 2021-08-11T03:12

蔡依林

By Donna
at 2021-08-14T05:29

畢竟籃球是看身高的運動

By Christine
at 2021-08-16T11:27

老大

By Robert
at 2021-08-19T03:17

AI天賦超高還在AI 去看他高中雙棲影片啦

By Agatha
at 2021-08-20T14:34

班蛙

By Ida
at 2021-08-25T11:38

以帶隊到總冠，應該吉巴天賦最差無誤

By Isabella
at 2021-08-30T04:20

比努力真的很無聊頂級球員沒有不努力的有時候真

By Steve
at 2021-08-31T22:39

AI身高不行，受傷一堆，可以打成那樣還不強？

By Steve
at 2021-09-03T12:51

AI可是NFL，NBA預定雙狀元，說天賦差的是在搞笑嗎

By Ophelia
at 2021-09-06T07:40

天分身體素質跟訓練方式的問題

By Elizabeth
at 2021-09-06T11:12

LBJ啊只是他從10歲就開始努力了 18歲就成功到現在

By Victoria
at 2021-09-10T19:58

石佛上將

By Puput
at 2021-09-11T13:34

curry

By Valerie
at 2021-09-14T10:38

老大 KD

By Damian
at 2021-09-18T17:37

喇叭阿

By Ophelia
at 2021-09-21T09:48

士官長彈跳絕對算頂的，年輕時在一堆中鋒霸榜的lo
b dunkers中，他是少數非禁區球員能入榜的

By Isabella
at 2021-09-22T12:36

但他的短臂和小手的確限制了他的天賦

By Gary
at 2021-09-24T02:45

AI的體能不是頂尖水準嗎? 而且還有大手

By Caroline
at 2021-09-27T19:05

AI的百米速度我記得還有參加奧運的水準

By Jake
at 2021-10-02T06:28

除了KB沒有其他答案

By Bennie
at 2021-10-06T22:14

lebron kobe nash curry jb

By Oscar
at 2021-10-10T07:01

AI臂展跟191cm的Curry差不多

By Regina
at 2021-10-14T08:43

Nash剛進聯盟時，快攻推進速度超快的，我第一次看
到印象深刻

By Rebecca
at 2021-10-18T05:21

Nash 、班蛙、老大、LBJ、MJ
Curry

By Kumar
at 2021-10-23T02:01

就LBJ啊不努力現在就只會是搶東西跑比較快的黑人
那個出身根本地獄模式

By Olive
at 2021-10-24T17:13

我投Kobe一票

By Necoo
at 2021-10-25T22:46

講AI的搜尋一下Iverson practice看看

By Frederic
at 2021-10-28T23:22

Lin 從落選到冠軍

By Edith
at 2021-11-01T03:50

矮湯其實滿令人respect

By Rebecca
at 2021-11-06T02:13

頂尖球星沒有不努力的，只靠天賦通常是曇花一兩年

By Elizabeth
at 2021-11-09T06:11

AI是萬中選一的天才跟歐肥老巴一樣非努力的典範

By Suhail Hany
at 2021-11-09T17:28

一定的努力是要的但他們絕對不是刻苦練出來的

By Necoo
at 2021-11-10T06:02

老大啊。天生體能不如人靠苦練技術取勝

By Doris
at 2021-11-13T10:54

kobe jolin

By Joseph
at 2021-11-18T04:08

咖哩啊，沒人想到勇士會半路殺出

By Edward Lewis
at 2021-11-18T16:42

有人推老史，但我覺得他的耐戰素質跟怪物一樣

By Hedy
at 2021-11-22T19:56

https://youtu.be/V40s1EQZiZM
Rose非常努力復健啊

By Jake
at 2021-11-23T01:11

Kobe

By Connor
at 2021-11-24T10:32

Kobe晚年就開始擺老不練球了還整天嫌隊友紙巾

By Madame
at 2021-11-28T12:36

Alex Caruso 算嗎? 之前還在發展聯盟，現在冠軍

By Megan
at 2021-12-02T13:55

天殘腳bowen阿

By Olive
at 2021-12-05T05:17

rose

By Carol
at 2021-12-05T14:00

可憐

By Regina
at 2021-12-10T00:52

在這個版就只有kobe體能最差身高最矮手最小 nba就
只有他全部都是靠苦練

By Bethany
at 2021-12-12T03:14

Kobe

By Eartha
at 2021-12-15T14:40

AI那種水準你跟我說他不努力？？

By Yuri
at 2021-12-19T12:24

李文吧那個傷還能上場打球

By Hamiltion
at 2021-12-21T15:13

卡禿真的屌上賽季還在發展聯盟今年變總冠軍賽先
發

By Edith
at 2021-12-22T17:51

老大啊

By Callum
at 2021-12-24T10:13

哪個能上NBA的不需要努力的...

By Dinah
at 2021-12-25T02:08

AI:Pract…

By Edwina
at 2021-12-27T10:08

還在practice，根本記者斷章取義的東西，看完紀錄
片再來嘴

By Valerie
at 2021-12-31T23:48

Rose

By Aaliyah
at 2022-01-05T15:24

Nash

By William
at 2022-01-08T17:43

蔡依林啊，努力掛嘴邊

By Yedda
at 2022-01-09T10:10

Kobe Curry Harden

By Todd Johnson
at 2022-01-10T17:54

Curry啊，PTT當之無愧路人

By Iris
at 2022-01-12T04:24

LBJ也很努力阿大概就像阿進吧

By Connor
at 2022-01-17T03:48

我認為喇叭吧，35還能這樣，不是只靠天賦，非常的努
嚴格的對自己，毅力驚人

By Zanna
at 2022-01-18T23:27

Kobe吧，拼命到我覺得他有點偏執

By Damian
at 2022-01-22T00:43

Curry、Kobe、LBJ，尤其是Kobe

By Audriana
at 2022-01-24T20:14

reggie miller

By Olive
at 2022-01-27T06:44

kobe

By Olive
at 2022-01-31T11:32

這無法量化阿誰知道誰努力多少

By Daph Bay
at 2022-02-05T10:15

Caruso吧去年還在發展聯盟今年已經是總冠軍賽先發

By Ina
at 2022-02-08T19:20

AI跟LBJ都不算他們高中美足也超強能選秀進NFL等
級他們在籃球只需投注一半時間就能達到現在成就是
天賦真的太好了

By Jake
at 2022-02-11T08:50

LBJ 雖然他的天賦讓人忽視他的努力

By Adele
at 2022-02-14T05:23

LBJ就是那種天才又比別人努力的

By Necoo
at 2022-02-16T21:42

kobe 技術的巔峰沒有之一

By Franklin
at 2022-02-21T00:30

我覺得是蔡依林

By Tom
at 2022-02-24T06:03

連私生活都很自律的才能說努力吧例如LBJ,雷槍,上
將,班蛙
還有吉巴

By Audriana
at 2022-02-25T12:45

給Rose一票

By Catherine
at 2022-02-26T14:35

巴特勒195夠高了

By Ula
at 2022-02-26T20:18

首先身高185以上應該全部淘汰

By Puput
at 2022-03-02T21:24

奈許其實184而已沒有比老史高多少兩人差不多

By Susan
at 2022-03-03T13:10

老大士官長

By Ivy
at 2022-03-04T01:56

Nash 6呎3怎麼會只有184

By Dinah
at 2022-03-06T13:17

豪鬼

By Harry
at 2022-03-08T01:48

曼巴精神

By Heather
at 2022-03-09T13:57

是MJ23, MJ的努力都不會被發現XD

By Ida
at 2022-03-10T09:02

姆斯跟高中女友變老婆相知相惜反觀一堆離婚偷吃咖

By Hazel
at 2022-03-14T15:05

MJ在學時本來也不過是個教練看不上的替補

By Genevieve
at 2022-03-19T10:51

Kobe算嗎老是吹自己凌晨幾點在練球...

By Olive
at 2022-03-20T14:38

字母哥，可愛都是突破原本預期的天花板

By Christine
at 2022-03-23T08:37

我覺得Kobe偏執到有點走火入魔 LBJ是訓練時很努力

By Ethan
at 2022-03-25T07:34

老大

By Charlotte
at 2022-03-28T20:23

然後很愛揪人一起練 MJ不用說了也是練球狂吧

By Kelly
at 2022-03-29T00:47

LBJ應該有部份時間都在看比賽影片

By Christine
at 2022-04-01T23:18

老大啊這什麼廢問題

By Mia
at 2022-04-05T10:55

字母....全家都戰爭難民所以從小很努力....活下來

By Mason
at 2022-04-09T03:34

kobe

By Selena
at 2022-04-12T06:28

絕對是老大你忘了MJ在老大走後講的感言嘛?

By Audriana
at 2022-04-12T23:03

這標題太不合理了，這樣下是指身體素質好的都不努力
嗎？...

By Kumar
at 2022-04-15T00:27

當然是MJ阿...

By Christine
at 2022-04-16T08:15

別的不說吉巴在公牛真的是聲仔啊，怎麼一堆人幫洗
白

By Tom
at 2022-04-21T04:10

jolin

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-04-24T23:47

話說，頂級球星中，選秀排名最差的是誰啊？

By Hazel
at 2022-04-29T15:27

傷後的rose

By Charlotte
at 2022-04-30T14:26

玄冥2老和Miller.都是身體有缺陷卻練成名人堂球星

By Barb Cronin
at 2022-05-02T18:54

Kobe

By Callum
at 2022-05-07T11:07

不努力都下去了啦

By Sandy
at 2022-05-08T02:49

晨星莫寧克服體型差距的中鋒

By Dora
at 2022-05-10T06:23

Kobe

By Yedda
at 2022-05-13T05:43

史塔克頓

By Ophelia
at 2022-05-15T04:37

當然是爵士兩老。我覺得反討論不努力卻很有成績的
比較有趣

By Rae
at 2022-05-18T00:15

去訪問球員相信絕大多數答案會是Kobe

By Irma
at 2022-05-19T21:49

選秀順位比較後面的巨星都是啊

By Hardy
at 2022-05-23T00:56

Rose

By Isla
at 2022-05-25T20:26

Kobe凌晨4點的洛杉磯街頭你看過嗎？

By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-05-26T08:11

Nash

By Rosalind
at 2022-05-28T10:10

我認為是R.Horry 體能絕對不算強打球很拼也夠聰明
球隊打季後賽時也算關鍵人物戒指也不少！

By Oscar
at 2022-05-29T03:55

能進NBA的每一個都是努力的天才好嗎

By Jake
at 2022-05-31T05:16

Kobe

By Faithe
at 2022-05-31T19:32

LBJ的保養的用心有誰能贏

By William
at 2022-06-05T03:15

Curry

By Isla
at 2022-06-09T21:52

Pippen光是臂展跟運動能力就犯規了說努力沒說服力

By David
at 2022-06-14T14:16

Ben Wallace 落選到AS 四次DPoY 冠軍

By Annie
at 2022-06-18T18:03

錢德勒帕森斯

By Ula
at 2022-06-18T21:13

Harden不是前三順位？？？

By Olivia
at 2022-06-21T20:13

Kobe

By Zanna
at 2022-06-23T21:56

一定是Stockton啊，92奧運走在路上被認為路人但nba
助攻抄截王

By Vanessa
at 2022-06-27T13:14

老大

By Jacky
at 2022-06-28T06:31

我大雷納德

By Oliver
at 2022-07-01T20:39

茂野吾郎

By Caitlin
at 2022-07-05T23:12

能近NBA的都很努力，不過kobe的努力故事很多都是其
他nba球員講出來的，應該更難得一些

By Rebecca
at 2022-07-06T01:26

LBJ雖然天賦已經是歷史等級的不過也真的超努力

By Gary
at 2022-07-08T03:02

kobe

By Lauren
at 2022-07-10T16:00

大推老史，他的耐戰度可是認真保養來的，其他身體
素質在還沒進NBA之前可是被看很扁的

By William
at 2022-07-15T08:00

Curry

By Rebecca
at 2022-07-16T10:40

Arenas

By Bethany
at 2022-07-17T20:08

Curry 體能不好生涯前期還受過大傷結果長成MVP

By Leila
at 2022-07-21T02:47

老史的耐戰和強壯也是一種驚人天賦了

By Ursula
at 2022-07-23T09:20

LeBron 多少天賦體能條件有他八九成的最後成果連他
的一半都沒有

By Ivy
at 2022-07-25T06:39

只看天賦條件t-mac或許真的有姆斯的八成

By Callum
at 2022-07-30T06:08

AI天賦不好，老史天賦驚人幹公鯊小

By Hardy
at 2022-08-03T15:33

LBJ吧, 自律到可怕

By Kelly
at 2022-08-07T07:29

今年絕對是吉巴

By Frederic
at 2022-08-11T12:00

許冠豪

By Ingrid
at 2022-08-11T13:32

LBJ一年保養身體的錢就多少了而且天賦屌虐

By Michael
at 2022-08-15T00:17

絕對只有姆斯

By Edith
at 2022-08-18T19:20

Kobe是形象營造太成功外號小飛俠體能早就過於常人

By Donna
at 2022-08-19T20:17

還在幻想SBL，HBL打的都比SBL熱血好看

By William
at 2022-08-23T11:43

一線球星都嘛超級努力的

By Franklin
at 2022-08-27T00:54

怕爽死努力賺錢

By Rosalind
at 2022-08-31T00:40

林書豪黃種人要打NBA 真的太難了要比黑人努力更多

By Joseph
at 2022-09-01T08:30

雷槍自律很重要

By Odelette
at 2022-09-02T22:30

能夠成名且有成就的球星，哪個不努力的

By Robert
at 2022-09-06T16:35

LBJ，Kobe，本來想推MJ，但他實在太愛賭了，甚至有
比賽當日還賭到天亮的傳聞

By Freda
at 2022-09-10T13:53

這個東西沒辦法量化阿！就算是體測成績也都算是努力

By Linda
at 2022-09-11T05:23

得來的，LBJ體測很猛，不代表他不努力就有這樣體能

By Barb Cronin
at 2022-09-15T04:45

KOBE 在SG 身材很有優勢好嗎

By Bethany
at 2022-09-18T05:15

要說努力 LBJ就是那種比你有天賦又比你努力

By Ivy
at 2022-09-20T07:53

每年在高強度的競爭之下維持競爭心態打這麼多場

By Ophelia
at 2022-09-21T20:49

司機生涯0負評打出專屬自己的球風和技巧

By Bennie
at 2022-09-24T07:33

豪豪落選秀在老大頭上狂轟38分

By Andy
at 2022-09-26T14:04

就林書豪吧什麼天賦優勢都沒努力過頭太早燃燒殆盡

By Faithe
at 2022-09-26T16:45

地才Jolin，我呸

By Sarah
at 2022-09-30T09:08

我大currrrryy

By Joe
at 2022-10-03T19:55

當然是黑曼巴啊

By Enid
at 2022-10-06T03:41

狗鼻

By Zanna
at 2022-10-10T07:24

我也覺得是林書豪，下來那個傷哭出來就知道結束了

By Isabella
at 2022-10-13T06:12

我看了都跟著落淚
雖然是美國教育但怎樣都是黃種人的體格，打成這樣猛

By Edwina
at 2022-10-15T19:50

他當年還自帶BUFF，把一堆雜魚帶得風生水起
更不用說種族騎士

By Hedda
at 2022-10-20T03:54

我覺得林證明了人種天賦不是台藍真正的問題

By Joe
at 2022-10-21T12:11

Tony Parker

By Michael
at 2022-10-22T05:56

老大

By Anthony
at 2022-10-23T05:41

斑蛙吧，進nba前的經歷一堆角色球員都能屌虐他，不
是選秀進nba的，以他劣勢的身材打四五號位，最後在
nba留下一冠四屆dpoy的成績

By Gilbert
at 2022-10-23T18:17

還是近代唯一有機會連續五屆的，沒拿到那年各項數
據都贏阿泰

By Caitlin
at 2022-10-28T13:41

Kyle Lowry浪人變全明星

By Gilbert
at 2022-11-02T10:56

Kobe

By Lydia
at 2022-11-06T03:42

矮湯

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