詹詠然退賽 中華教練:公道自在人心 - 網球 Tennis

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※ 引述《einstean (台北捷運世界一流)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《gj94ek (我帥的太沉重)》之銘言:
: : 作者: ying11027 (好多事情要做>"<) 看板: Gossiping
: : 標題: Re: [新聞] 詹詠然退賽 中華教練:公道自在人心
: : 時間: Tue Aug 29 19:52:41 2017
: : 先不論詹謝兩家多年來的恩怨,也不論謝淑薇未經證實的臆測,
: : 單就針對混雙退賽這個事件討論兩個事實就好,避免模糊焦點。
: : 事實一:詹家向教練團拍胸脯保證會打完混雙賽事。
: : 這句話是整個中華教練團帶中華網球隊開記者會背書,應該假不了。
: : 詹家到要確認名單的最後一刻還是說會打完混雙賽事。
: : 事實二:世大運混雙決賽與美網女雙第一輪比賽時間衝突。
: : 混雙金牌戰8/29傍晚17:00開打,賽後有混雙頒獎典禮,
: : 直飛紐約的班機BR32是晚上19:10起飛,最晚18:30必須要出現在機場check in,
: : 所以說,打完混雙後是不可能趕得上這班飛機。
: : 美網女雙第一輪賽事為台灣時間8/30晚上23:00之後開打,
: : 雖然詹詠然確切的美網賽程還沒出來,但女雙第一輪會在同一天開打,
: : 也就是說如果沒搭能上8/29晚上那班BR32,是不可能來得及趕上比賽。
: : 畫個不可能的時間軸吧(以下皆為台灣時間)
: : 8/29 17:00 混雙金牌戰(含頒獎典禮)
: : 8/29 19:10 直飛紐約班機(BR32,下一班直飛紐約是8/30晚上19:10)
: : ...飛機需飛行約14個小時又50分鐘。
: : 8/30 23:00 美網女雙第一輪開打。
: : 結論就是:不可能同時兼顧世大運混雙和美網女雙。
: : 因為這兩個事實明顯相抵觸,請問詹家應該要怎麼解釋才說得過去?
: : 還是詹詠然一開始就沒想要打混雙決賽呢?
: 我個人有點疑惑....
: 假設事實二為真,那麼鄉民都知道的事情教練團會不知道?
: 詹家說會打完混雙賽事,教練團怎麼不拿這個事實質問詹家?
: 疑惑點1
: 「詹家向教練團拍胸脯保證會打完混雙賽事」,所以教練團就相信了?
: 疑惑點2
: 詹詠然都中暑了教練團還要要求她出賽?
: 怎麼看這個教練團都很像是棒球的殺豬公教練啊....
: 有什麼內幕就痛痛快快一次抖出來,不要遮遮掩掩的。
我不是詹粉,根本沒看過詹的比賽,這些人中只看過也比較想看辛公主打球,
但我覺得這件事真的可能是一個「不帶惡的小算計」所發生的誤會。
(真心覺得自從八卦版當道後,任何事都趨近非黑即白,不容許有誤會發生)
以下為猜測
1.詹家真心承諾打完世大運賽程是真的也是真心。
2.詹姐確實身體狀況不佳。
3.詹姐真的上飛機去美國了。
在此前提下,
有沒有可能詹姐承諾打完世大運是真的,但願意配合世大運賽程也是真的,
不過只有金牌戰可能衝到,但誰知道會不會真的打到決賽(畢竟配合的搭檔
信任基礎比較薄弱),故詹家心想若世大運提前打包,還可以去美網,如果
一開始就放棄美網,那豈不是兩頭空,因此先保留美網參賽的可能性。
但重點是,內心底詹家還是懷著世大運金牌跟美網一輪真的衝突時,還是履
行承諾,打完金牌戰。
不過問題在,詹姐身體狀況不佳也是事實,所以當他們判斷即使留台灣也完
成不了金牌戰後,倒不如就「退而求其次」爭取休息時間,直接上機「休息」,
直接到美國開打第一輪。
一切的敗點就只在,詹家啞巴吃黃蓮,很難以解釋他們確實是沒有惡意棄賽,
卻又出現在美網比賽。詹家確實有算計在裡面(即保留世大運提前打包也不
失去美網參賽機會的算計)但這算計並不過分,只是運氣不好出了個身體狀
況不佳,而這個病痛又可能是無法參加金牌戰,但可能參加美網的小病痛,
以致於引來各方撻伐。
但詹姐本身是職業球員,且無論是不是職業球員本來都會為自己利益打算,
這回只不過他期待能在國家榮耀跟職業積分中取個最兩全的做法,但因為意
而弄巧成拙,偏偏主觀想法很難證明。
想到這邊,我就覺得其實這回詹姐挺衰的,對他有點過於苛責...
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: ※ 引述《gj94ek (我帥的太沉重)》之銘言:
: : 作者: ying11027 (好多事情要做>"<) 看板: Gossiping
: : 標題: Re: [新聞] 詹詠然退賽 中華教練:公道自在人心
: : 時間: Tue Aug 29 19:52:41 2017
: : 先不論詹謝兩家多年來的恩怨,也不論謝淑薇未經證實的臆測,
: : 單就針對混雙退賽這個事件討論兩個事實就好,避免模糊焦點。
: : 事實一:詹家向教練團拍胸脯保證會打完混雙賽事。
: : 這句話是整個中華教練團帶中華網球隊開記者會背書,應該假不了。
: : 詹家到要確認名單的最後一刻還是說會打完混雙賽事。
: : 事實二:世大運混雙決賽與美網女雙第一輪比賽時間衝突。
: : 混雙金牌戰8/29傍晚17:00開打,賽後有混雙頒獎典禮,
: : 直飛紐約的班機BR32是晚上19:10起飛,最晚18:30必須要出現在機場check in,
: : 所以說,打完混雙後是不可能趕得上這班飛機。
: : 美網女雙第一輪賽事為台灣時間8/30晚上23:00之後開打,
: : 雖然詹詠然確切的美網賽程還沒出來,但女雙第一輪會在同一天開打,
: : 也就是說如果沒搭能上8/29晚上那班BR32,是不可能來得及趕上比賽。
: : 畫個不可能的時間軸吧(以下皆為台灣時間)
: : 8/29 17:00 混雙金牌戰(含頒獎典禮)
: : 8/29 19:10 直飛紐約班機(BR32,下一班直飛紐約是8/30晚上19:10)
: : ...飛機需飛行約14個小時又50分鐘。
: : 8/30 23:00 美網女雙第一輪開打。
: : 結論就是:不可能同時兼顧世大運混雙和美網女雙。
: : 因為這兩個事實明顯相抵觸,請問詹家應該要怎麼解釋才說得過去?
: : 還是詹詠然一開始就沒想要打混雙決賽呢?
: 我個人有點疑惑....
: 假設事實二為真,那麼鄉民都知道的事情教練團會不知道?
: 詹家說會打完混雙賽事,教練團怎麼不拿這個事實質問詹家?
: 疑惑點1
: 「詹家向教練團拍胸脯保證會打完混雙賽事」,所以教練團就相信了?
: 疑惑點2
: 詹詠然都中暑了教練團還要要求她出賽?
: 怎麼看這個教練團都很像是棒球的殺豬公教練啊....
: 有什麼內幕就痛痛快快一次抖出來,不要遮遮掩掩的。
我不是詹粉,根本沒看過詹的比賽,這些人中只看過也比較想看辛公主打球,
但我覺得這件事真的可能是一個「不帶惡的小算計」所發生的誤會。
(真心覺得自從八卦版當道後,任何事都趨近非黑即白,不容許有誤會發生)
以下為猜測
1.詹家真心承諾打完世大運賽程是真的也是真心。
2.詹姐確實身體狀況不佳。
3.詹姐真的上飛機去美國了。
在此前提下,
有沒有可能詹姐承諾打完世大運是真的,但願意配合世大運賽程也是真的,
不過只有金牌戰可能衝到,但誰知道會不會真的打到決賽(畢竟配合的搭檔
信任基礎比較薄弱),故詹家心想若世大運提前打包,還可以去美網,如果
一開始就放棄美網,那豈不是兩頭空,因此先保留美網參賽的可能性。
但重點是,內心底詹家還是懷著世大運金牌跟美網一輪真的衝突時,還是履
行承諾,打完金牌戰。
不過問題在,詹姐身體狀況不佳也是事實,所以當他們判斷即使留台灣也完
成不了金牌戰後,倒不如就「退而求其次」爭取休息時間,直接上機「休息」,
直接到美國開打第一輪。
一切的敗點就只在,詹家啞巴吃黃蓮,很難以解釋他們確實是沒有惡意棄賽,
卻又出現在美網比賽。詹家確實有算計在裡面(即保留世大運提前打包也不
失去美網參賽機會的算計)但這算計並不過分,只是運氣不好出了個身體狀
況不佳,而這個病痛又可能是無法參加金牌戰,但可能參加美網的小病痛,
以致於引來各方撻伐。
但詹姐本身是職業球員,且無論是不是職業球員本來都會為自己利益打算,
這回只不過他期待能在國家榮耀跟職業積分中取個最兩全的做法,但因為意
而弄巧成拙,偏偏主觀想法很難證明。
想到這邊,我就覺得其實這回詹姐挺衰的,對他有點過於苛責...
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