艾迪FB-關於誤解 - 籃球

By Tom
at 2021-08-20T22:33
at 2021-08-20T22:33
Table of Contents
臺灣籃球即使不能「一團祥和」至少不要「血流成河」一直是我想努力的方向,然而 #成
力煥 離開 #新竹街口攻城獅 之風波餘波盪漾,我在17日的相關發文也被針對點名,原本
我不想再多作回應,而是以成力煥今晨IG發文供大家參考,但顯然幫助不大。
成力煥在這則發文表示:「賽季打完收到幾個球隊的詢問,我與攻城獅依照委任合約內容
討論之後簽署買斷協議…」這段話的關鍵字在於「#委任合約」,何謂委任合約,民法對
於委任合約的權利與義務關係有非常詳實的解釋,在此我不贅述。
我只挑最關鍵的民法第549條來說明,裡面載明「當事人之任何一方,得隨時終止委任契
約。」這就是球員合約中常見「#雙方選擇權」的概念,所謂「雙方選擇權」簡單說,只
要必須球隊與球員雙方都同意才能執行,否則只要是任一方不同意都無法執行。
所以成力煥與 #攻城獅 的合約合理說起來不是單方面所說的「#球隊選擇」,我也才會在
17日的發文表示,成力煥與攻城獅季外在針對去年所簽「1+1」合約的「+1」這部份,是
屬於雙方選擇權,還是單方選擇權在相關解釋與溝通上,存在認知上的差距。
另外民法第549條裡面也載明:「當事人之一方,於不利於他方之時期終止契約者,應負
損害賠償責任。」這也是為何成力煥要支費合約買斷金的緣故,他和攻城的合約在7月31
日才到期,可是在攻城獅6月29日即官宣成力煥自請離隊,雙方合約續存關係宣告提前破
局,成力煥也強調是雙方在7次的面談中討論了各種的可能性,最後的協議是他買斷合約
離開。
我一直強調,我對成力煥離開攻城始料未及,因為我認為他們彼此是天作之合,然後我也
說了:「清官難斷家務事,成力煥與攻城獅買斷合約的始末與細節,必須兩造公開原先所
簽合約才能論斷…」自始自終我在這則發文都是引用成力煥的說法,未再加油添醋個人想
法,更無妄自論斷之意。
遺憾的是,我的這則發文依舊被誤解,或許我的表達方式不對、表達能力不夠,在此我對
於因此覺得被冒犯者、不能原諒者、失望者說聲抱歉,對於體諒者、支持者也由衷感謝,
讓你們擔心了很不好意思,我會再努力、加油就是了。
https://i.imgur.com/0zEJVZj.jpg
連結:
https://www.facebook.com/100000223210201/posts/4876893002328092/?d=n
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力煥 離開 #新竹街口攻城獅 之風波餘波盪漾,我在17日的相關發文也被針對點名,原本
我不想再多作回應,而是以成力煥今晨IG發文供大家參考,但顯然幫助不大。
成力煥在這則發文表示:「賽季打完收到幾個球隊的詢問,我與攻城獅依照委任合約內容
討論之後簽署買斷協議…」這段話的關鍵字在於「#委任合約」,何謂委任合約,民法對
於委任合約的權利與義務關係有非常詳實的解釋,在此我不贅述。
我只挑最關鍵的民法第549條來說明,裡面載明「當事人之任何一方,得隨時終止委任契
約。」這就是球員合約中常見「#雙方選擇權」的概念,所謂「雙方選擇權」簡單說,只
要必須球隊與球員雙方都同意才能執行,否則只要是任一方不同意都無法執行。
所以成力煥與 #攻城獅 的合約合理說起來不是單方面所說的「#球隊選擇」,我也才會在
17日的發文表示,成力煥與攻城獅季外在針對去年所簽「1+1」合約的「+1」這部份,是
屬於雙方選擇權,還是單方選擇權在相關解釋與溝通上,存在認知上的差距。
另外民法第549條裡面也載明:「當事人之一方,於不利於他方之時期終止契約者,應負
損害賠償責任。」這也是為何成力煥要支費合約買斷金的緣故,他和攻城的合約在7月31
日才到期,可是在攻城獅6月29日即官宣成力煥自請離隊,雙方合約續存關係宣告提前破
局,成力煥也強調是雙方在7次的面談中討論了各種的可能性,最後的協議是他買斷合約
離開。
我一直強調,我對成力煥離開攻城始料未及,因為我認為他們彼此是天作之合,然後我也
說了:「清官難斷家務事,成力煥與攻城獅買斷合約的始末與細節,必須兩造公開原先所
簽合約才能論斷…」自始自終我在這則發文都是引用成力煥的說法,未再加油添醋個人想
法,更無妄自論斷之意。
遺憾的是,我的這則發文依舊被誤解,或許我的表達方式不對、表達能力不夠,在此我對
於因此覺得被冒犯者、不能原諒者、失望者說聲抱歉,對於體諒者、支持者也由衷感謝,
讓你們擔心了很不好意思,我會再努力、加油就是了。
https://i.imgur.com/0zEJVZj.jpg

連結:
https://www.facebook.com/100000223210201/posts/4876893002328092/?d=n
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at 2021-08-21T09:23
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By Mia
at 2021-08-25T14:31
at 2021-08-25T14:31
法務熱身中 晚點會不會直播說明??

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By Madame
at 2021-09-12T11:33
at 2021-09-12T11:33
個人都有自己論點,不當面說要怎麼說清楚?

By Hardy
at 2021-09-15T22:52
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By Lucy
at 2021-09-20T03:46
at 2021-09-20T03:46
報導,告訴我們一下誰的解讀是對的,謝謝

By Lucy
at 2021-09-21T00:38
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By Delia
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By Queena
at 2021-10-02T05:10
at 2021-10-02T05:10
加幾的,呵呵

By Jessica
at 2021-10-05T10:49
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By Genevieve
at 2021-10-19T21:48
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By Steve
at 2021-10-24T01:50
at 2021-10-24T01:50
現在另一個聯盟都不意外

By Leila
at 2021-10-26T09:13
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2021-10-26T10:49
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By Jack
at 2021-10-30T18:44
at 2021-10-30T18:44
老是存在這個爭點

By Frederic
at 2021-11-04T03:36
at 2021-11-04T03:36
那這樣白紙黑字有何意義?

By Olive
at 2021-11-07T11:55
at 2021-11-07T11:55
是官方人員嗎?

By Callum
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By Harry
at 2021-11-10T21:39
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By Andrew
at 2021-11-11T00:50
at 2021-11-11T00:50
每個單字定義都查清楚,辛苦了

By Tracy
at 2021-11-12T07:51
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By Barb Cronin
at 2021-11-12T09:52
at 2021-11-12T09:52
籃球了 聯盟趕快訂自己合約的遊戲規則

By Isla
at 2021-11-16T07:22
at 2021-11-16T07:22
然鍵盤記者被罵很麻煩

By Barb Cronin
at 2021-11-17T19:47
at 2021-11-17T19:47
任合約?

By Barb Cronin
at 2021-11-22T11:24
at 2021-11-22T11:24
現在又說為什麼不私下喬,對方都點名了不公開回應不

By Edward Lewis
at 2021-11-24T21:54
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By Isla
at 2021-11-26T14:48
at 2021-11-26T14:48
怪嗎,還可以跟球隊GM互罵

By Kama
at 2021-11-26T21:32
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By Genevieve
at 2021-11-27T21:07
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By Hazel
at 2021-11-30T20:43
at 2021-11-30T20:43
」代表合約性質是委任

By Zora
at 2021-12-04T21:22
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By Skylar Davis
at 2021-12-07T01:59
at 2021-12-07T01:59
看不出來哪裡有互罵,這篇不是艾迪的解釋和道歉文嗎

By Andy
at 2021-12-07T17:15
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By Susan
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By Rachel
at 2021-12-16T10:12
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擇權嗎?

By Sierra Rose
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By Steve
at 2021-12-29T15:09
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重新定義了

By Yuri
at 2022-01-02T20:54
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度,只要p+沒有定型化契約,以後還會有千千萬萬個成
立煥

By Ida
at 2022-01-05T06:49
at 2022-01-05T06:49
的概念,我是覺得這樣解釋很怪XDD

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By Lucy
at 2022-01-20T16:51
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燒這麼大XD

By Hardy
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By Lauren
at 2022-02-01T11:54
at 2022-02-01T11:54
個判決不認為合約命名為「委任合約」,實質上就必定
為委任合約喔(該案法院認定鄭人維和富邦的球員合
約是僱傭契約)

By Erin
at 2022-02-04T21:38
at 2022-02-04T21:38
乎是哪邊的選擇權

By Sarah
at 2022-02-05T23:07
at 2022-02-05T23:07
有問題就叫來兩邊摸頭

By James
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By Poppy
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By Eartha
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By James
at 2022-02-14T19:21
at 2022-02-14T19:21
支持球員合約應該是僱傭契約

By Bennie
at 2022-02-15T04:36
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整體po漢堡 唉

By Poppy
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By Zora
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By Ingrid
at 2022-02-25T20:01
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斷

By Rebecca
at 2022-03-02T06:01
at 2022-03-02T06:01
點是聯盟球隊球員三方應該要約好一個大家同意的制式
範本 不是讓法官做判斷 因為那樣沒有彈性

By Emily
at 2022-03-06T10:10
at 2022-03-06T10:10
本不用買斷,就是因為是球隊選擇才需要買斷

By Jacky
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By Candice
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By Candice
at 2022-03-15T13:41
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力不符無賠償的釋出球員,至少要依勞基法支付遣散
費?這點可有球團做到的先例?

By Ida
at 2022-03-16T08:34
at 2022-03-16T08:34
那在那邊把 #委任契約 解釋成 #雙方選擇權

By Isla
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By Mason
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By Franklin
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By Madame
at 2022-03-28T19:36
at 2022-03-28T19:36
那這樣每份合約都可以叫做雙方選擇阿 笑死

By Lily
at 2022-04-02T03:44
at 2022-04-02T03:44
來處理就好
仲裁結果不符就給球員贊法院

By Doris
at 2022-04-05T13:31
at 2022-04-05T13:31
直想用錯誤知識帶風向不知道是居何心

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By Megan
at 2022-04-12T11:44
at 2022-04-12T11:44
這樣就沒什麼勞健保三小的問題
還可以隨便解約

By Jacky
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at 2022-04-16T14:35
黑人:使用PLG的漢堡復活艾迪,加上魔法卡臉書自媒
體安裝在艾迪身上,艾迪攻擊力上升五百點

By Lily
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By Noah
at 2022-04-23T06:07
at 2022-04-23T06:07
人家企業律師團擺出來就贏了啊

By Ina
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By Zanna
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By Ina
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By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-05-03T01:01
at 2022-05-03T01:01
費了?

By John
at 2022-05-04T02:06
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By Megan
at 2022-05-08T07:40
at 2022-05-08T07:40
場,因民國87年行政院勞委會公告不適用勞基法的工作
者中,有「職業運動業之教練、球員、裁判人員」(90
年調整名稱)

By Franklin
at 2022-05-09T22:07
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By Lucy
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By Enid
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By Queena
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By David
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By Joe
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By Eartha
at 2022-05-27T14:58
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By Wallis
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By Kama
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By Jacky
at 2022-06-03T11:14
at 2022-06-03T11:14
到肯尼不得不出來 然後又放炮說搞那麼大幹嘛

By Elizabeth
at 2022-06-07T02:11
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By Oscar
at 2022-06-08T16:40
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By Hedwig
at 2022-06-11T09:44
at 2022-06-11T09:44
應該是民法第487條,僱用人受領勞務遲延者,受僱人

By Puput
at 2022-06-14T18:59
at 2022-06-14T18:59
民法第234條:債權人對於已提出之給付,拒絕受領或
不能受領者,自提出時起,負遲延責任)。也就是如果
球團與球員間存在僱傭契約,球員提出勞務給付遭球團
拒絕受領時,有對球團的報酬請求權。

By Liam
at 2022-06-18T00:03
at 2022-06-18T00:03
發文前找球員跟球團兩方查證

By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-06-21T20:48
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By Harry
at 2022-06-24T22:53
at 2022-06-24T22:53

By Vanessa
at 2022-06-28T03:14
at 2022-06-28T03:14
任意終止的規定來用…

By Ina
at 2022-06-28T14:39
at 2022-06-28T14:39
黑人真傳

By Frederic
at 2022-07-03T04:20
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By Jessica
at 2022-07-05T02:12
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By Frederica
at 2022-07-09T03:44
at 2022-07-09T03:44
契約,就變成必須要有重大事由,才可以於期限屆滿前
終止,且也有一方可以向過失他方請求損害賠償的規定

By Ivy
at 2022-07-11T02:14
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By Joe
at 2022-07-15T04:36
at 2022-07-15T04:36
+終止契約,感覺是有點討論空間

By Hazel
at 2022-07-19T20:01
at 2022-07-19T20:01
合作關係,才會有買斷這個行為?我法盲

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-07-23T04:07
at 2022-07-23T04:07
契約種類關係沒很大

By Lily
at 2022-07-23T15:03
at 2022-07-23T15:03
證?

By Margaret
at 2022-07-25T11:36
at 2022-07-25T11:36
去理解,只差在很少看到球員自己buy out合約

By Ursula
at 2022-07-26T08:40
at 2022-07-26T08:40
詞會來什麼效果吧

By Jessica
at 2022-07-28T21:05
at 2022-07-28T21:05

By Sierra Rose
at 2022-07-31T15:24
at 2022-07-31T15:24
球團對於球員的權利義務

By Ophelia
at 2022-08-04T22:19
at 2022-08-04T22:19
工會,勞權一直沒辦法提昇。才會有很多看起來很微妙

By Blanche
at 2022-08-09T22:16
at 2022-08-09T22:16
可能不只球員,還有球隊運作

By Steve
at 2022-08-10T22:49
at 2022-08-10T22:49

By George
at 2022-08-11T05:13
at 2022-08-11T05:13
就是要避免球隊去問還有合約在身的球員導致一連串
雪球效應吧

By Rosalind
at 2022-08-14T08:25
at 2022-08-14T08:25

By Edward Lewis
at 2022-08-15T21:02
at 2022-08-15T21:02

By Annie
at 2022-08-19T11:28
at 2022-08-19T11:28

By Frederica
at 2022-08-24T03:25
at 2022-08-24T03:25
買斷或歸國的

By Linda
at 2022-08-25T06:34
at 2022-08-25T06:34

By Victoria
at 2022-08-28T17:14
at 2022-08-28T17:14

By George
at 2022-08-29T20:27
at 2022-08-29T20:27
合約本身就可以隨時中指

By Hedwig
at 2022-09-02T13:35
at 2022-09-02T13:35

By Belly
at 2022-09-06T02:41
at 2022-09-06T02:41

By Necoo
at 2022-09-09T21:37
at 2022-09-09T21:37

By Dinah
at 2022-09-12T02:29
at 2022-09-12T02:29
中職沒設定是因為FA代價太高搞到沒什麼人想玩FA

By Dinah
at 2022-09-16T04:01
at 2022-09-16T04:01

By Adele
at 2022-09-18T05:40
at 2022-09-18T05:40

By Necoo
at 2022-09-22T13:17
at 2022-09-22T13:17
責任就可以撇的一乾二淨

By David
at 2022-09-25T18:55
at 2022-09-25T18:55

By Lauren
at 2022-09-27T20:28
at 2022-09-27T20:28

By Victoria
at 2022-10-02T11:40
at 2022-10-02T11:40

By Odelette
at 2022-10-04T00:35
at 2022-10-04T00:35

By Una
at 2022-10-05T15:48
at 2022-10-05T15:48

By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-10-06T02:03
at 2022-10-06T02:03

By Liam
at 2022-10-08T20:26
at 2022-10-08T20:26
想獲得關注然後被打臉又甩鍋?

By Mary
at 2022-10-13T18:08
at 2022-10-13T18:08

By Christine
at 2022-10-17T11:00
at 2022-10-17T11:00

By Sarah
at 2022-10-20T05:53
at 2022-10-20T05:53

By Eartha
at 2022-10-22T17:23
at 2022-10-22T17:23

By Olivia
at 2022-10-27T05:46
at 2022-10-27T05:46

By Anthony
at 2022-10-31T21:52
at 2022-10-31T21:52

By Hamiltion
at 2022-11-04T08:43
at 2022-11-04T08:43
的事了,他的身分也可以去問,偏要搞的那麼難看

By Thomas
at 2022-11-06T23:01
at 2022-11-06T23:01

By Audriana
at 2022-11-11T09:23
at 2022-11-11T09:23
合約就這麼簡單的事情

By Selena
at 2022-11-16T09:20
at 2022-11-16T09:20
努力你個頭鬼啦

By Odelette
at 2022-11-16T18:28
at 2022-11-16T18:28

By Valerie
at 2022-11-20T06:13
at 2022-11-20T06:13

By Lydia
at 2022-11-25T02:07
at 2022-11-25T02:07

By Edwina
at 2022-11-27T03:45
at 2022-11-27T03:45

By Wallis
at 2022-11-29T03:26
at 2022-11-29T03:26
解套喔?

By Oscar
at 2022-11-30T01:16
at 2022-11-30T01:16

By Xanthe
at 2022-11-30T05:54
at 2022-11-30T05:54

By Anthony
at 2022-12-02T07:52
at 2022-12-02T07:52

By Rae
at 2022-12-05T06:04
at 2022-12-05T06:04

By Hazel
at 2022-12-09T16:20
at 2022-12-09T16:20
啊

By Charlotte
at 2022-12-10T22:12
at 2022-12-10T22:12

By Zenobia
at 2022-12-11T12:39
at 2022-12-11T12:39

By Belly
at 2022-12-13T22:44
at 2022-12-13T22:44

By Lily
at 2022-12-14T21:52
at 2022-12-14T21:52
現

By Daph Bay
at 2022-12-15T01:00
at 2022-12-15T01:00
???

By Cara
at 2022-12-15T21:57
at 2022-12-15T21:57
記者講法律真的呵呵

By Emma
at 2022-12-16T14:32
at 2022-12-16T14:32

By Blanche
at 2022-12-20T17:38
at 2022-12-20T17:38

By Blanche
at 2022-12-23T04:16
at 2022-12-23T04:16
幹嘛要有這麼多自己的臆測

By Ina
at 2022-12-27T22:22
at 2022-12-27T22:22
做不到了 後面講一堆自己腦補的想法 who car

By Frederic
at 2022-12-30T05:22
at 2022-12-30T05:22

By Edwina
at 2023-01-03T01:23
at 2023-01-03T01:23

By Puput
at 2023-01-07T22:04
at 2023-01-07T22:04

By Annie
at 2023-01-12T20:21
at 2023-01-12T20:21

By Caroline
at 2023-01-17T05:26
at 2023-01-17T05:26

By Gilbert
at 2023-01-19T21:18
at 2023-01-19T21:18
未查證寫出來的問題喔,很爛欸

By Puput
at 2023-01-20T06:24
at 2023-01-20T06:24

By Sarah
at 2023-01-23T19:34
at 2023-01-23T19:34

By Ethan
at 2023-01-26T02:11
at 2023-01-26T02:11

By Lauren
at 2023-01-27T23:20
at 2023-01-27T23:20
不用付聯盟錢 超爽的
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