老大的帶隊能力其實很強吧 - NBA

By Harry
at 2017-04-02T11:20
at 2017-04-02T11:20
Table of Contents
※ 引述《BigCockman (大雕男)》之銘言:
: 大家都知道近年來NBA越報越大團 一隊三個明星已經是家常便飯
: 甚至有像勇士4個 不然就是一堆前明星老將帶槍投靠的
: 例行賽輕鬆打也能進季後賽 反正我板凳都比你先發強
: 相比之下 雖然大家常笑Kobe 0.67輪什麼的
: 但是攤開湖人當年陣容來看 老大根本就超強啊
: 06.07年湖人簡直雜魚大隊 除了Kobe外就Odom算半個明星球員
: 連水貨狀元Kwame Brown在陣容裡都算強的了
: 隨便舉幾個Smush Parker.Brian Cook.Luke Walton.Chris Mihm..
: 這些球員放到現在絕對會被勇士板凳血虐吧
: 結果老大帶這樣的陣容 還能在當時超強的西區打進季後賽
: (那時候西區馬刺.小牛.太陽都是60勝等級球隊 還有火箭灰熊金塊一票強隊)
到底是印象派還是為了要說嘴誇張數據,太陽05~06那時候就是54勝
05~06年西區50勝以上球隊也才三個,跟近年來都保持五六個
甚至七個相比沒有特別出色,
06~07年60勝以上是兩個,馬刺也沒有60勝
灰熊04~05跟05~06年比湖人好 但06~07只剩22勝,好像也不是特別強
: 甚至跟Nash的太陽火拼七場才敗陣..回頭看真的超扯的
一直用這一系列賽幫KOBE說嘴
說的好像KOBE獨力鏖戰到七戰
說到底還是一如KOBE每次的勝利方程式,就是靠禁區
首先把那系列賽的太陽的球員攤開
禁區裡面的Amare跟Kurt Thomas都受傷,禁區進攻火力跟防守悍將都上不了場
剩下的根本沒有威嚇效果,不是太矮就是不夠硬,湖人策略就是一直打太陽的禁區
湖人的前場球員那個系列賽的成績都比生涯成績高出許多
Odom 19.1分 13籃板 4.8助攻
Kwame Brown 12.9分 6.6籃板
Luke Walton 12.1分 6.4籃板
這幾個那時候就凸顯出太陽的禁區有多薄弱
但隔年季後賽amare一回來,太陽馬上4:1輕虐湖人
: 後來Gasol來後就連續三年打進冠軍賽 還有人說老大抱腿
: 怎麼不想想Gasol在灰熊隊四年季後賽0-12? 結果一跟Kobe搭擋 馬上拿冠軍?
現在連前明星球員都能說抱腿了
Gasol這種20分10籃板等級的不能說?
更何況還有其他腿 你不講一下?
: 老大的帶隊能力是不是被嚴重低估了啊??
--
: 大家都知道近年來NBA越報越大團 一隊三個明星已經是家常便飯
: 甚至有像勇士4個 不然就是一堆前明星老將帶槍投靠的
: 例行賽輕鬆打也能進季後賽 反正我板凳都比你先發強
: 相比之下 雖然大家常笑Kobe 0.67輪什麼的
: 但是攤開湖人當年陣容來看 老大根本就超強啊
: 06.07年湖人簡直雜魚大隊 除了Kobe外就Odom算半個明星球員
: 連水貨狀元Kwame Brown在陣容裡都算強的了
: 隨便舉幾個Smush Parker.Brian Cook.Luke Walton.Chris Mihm..
: 這些球員放到現在絕對會被勇士板凳血虐吧
: 結果老大帶這樣的陣容 還能在當時超強的西區打進季後賽
: (那時候西區馬刺.小牛.太陽都是60勝等級球隊 還有火箭灰熊金塊一票強隊)
到底是印象派還是為了要說嘴誇張數據,太陽05~06那時候就是54勝
05~06年西區50勝以上球隊也才三個,跟近年來都保持五六個
甚至七個相比沒有特別出色,
06~07年60勝以上是兩個,馬刺也沒有60勝
灰熊04~05跟05~06年比湖人好 但06~07只剩22勝,好像也不是特別強
: 甚至跟Nash的太陽火拼七場才敗陣..回頭看真的超扯的
一直用這一系列賽幫KOBE說嘴
說的好像KOBE獨力鏖戰到七戰
說到底還是一如KOBE每次的勝利方程式,就是靠禁區
首先把那系列賽的太陽的球員攤開
禁區裡面的Amare跟Kurt Thomas都受傷,禁區進攻火力跟防守悍將都上不了場
剩下的根本沒有威嚇效果,不是太矮就是不夠硬,湖人策略就是一直打太陽的禁區
湖人的前場球員那個系列賽的成績都比生涯成績高出許多
Odom 19.1分 13籃板 4.8助攻
Kwame Brown 12.9分 6.6籃板
Luke Walton 12.1分 6.4籃板
這幾個那時候就凸顯出太陽的禁區有多薄弱
但隔年季後賽amare一回來,太陽馬上4:1輕虐湖人
: 後來Gasol來後就連續三年打進冠軍賽 還有人說老大抱腿
: 怎麼不想想Gasol在灰熊隊四年季後賽0-12? 結果一跟Kobe搭擋 馬上拿冠軍?
現在連前明星球員都能說抱腿了
Gasol這種20分10籃板等級的不能說?
更何況還有其他腿 你不講一下?
: 老大的帶隊能力是不是被嚴重低估了啊??
--
Tags:
NBA
All Comments

By Caroline
at 2017-04-05T18:53
at 2017-04-05T18:53

By Damian
at 2017-04-05T23:53
at 2017-04-05T23:53

By Ivy
at 2017-04-08T02:48
at 2017-04-08T02:48

By Jessica
at 2017-04-09T23:42
at 2017-04-09T23:42

By Franklin
at 2017-04-14T02:16
at 2017-04-14T02:16

By Daniel
at 2017-04-15T15:31
at 2017-04-15T15:31

By Kristin
at 2017-04-19T01:42
at 2017-04-19T01:42

By Victoria
at 2017-04-23T02:53
at 2017-04-23T02:53

By Daniel
at 2017-04-25T15:59
at 2017-04-25T15:59

By Olivia
at 2017-04-29T15:13
at 2017-04-29T15:13

By Kumar
at 2017-04-30T05:40
at 2017-04-30T05:40

By Anthony
at 2017-04-30T10:24
at 2017-04-30T10:24

By Hedda
at 2017-04-30T22:47
at 2017-04-30T22:47

By Bennie
at 2017-05-05T15:39
at 2017-05-05T15:39

By Rebecca
at 2017-05-08T13:48
at 2017-05-08T13:48

By Agatha
at 2017-05-12T07:57
at 2017-05-12T07:57

By Linda
at 2017-05-15T19:50
at 2017-05-15T19:50

By Jacob
at 2017-05-16T00:07
at 2017-05-16T00:07

By Freda
at 2017-05-16T18:01
at 2017-05-16T18:01

By Ida
at 2017-05-18T20:26
at 2017-05-18T20:26

By Robert
at 2017-05-22T09:39
at 2017-05-22T09:39

By Kyle
at 2017-05-24T19:34
at 2017-05-24T19:34

By Ida
at 2017-05-25T17:24
at 2017-05-25T17:24

By Zenobia
at 2017-05-29T06:57
at 2017-05-29T06:57

By Ursula
at 2017-05-31T00:09
at 2017-05-31T00:09

By Delia
at 2017-06-03T04:34
at 2017-06-03T04:34

By Rosalind
at 2017-06-06T19:49
at 2017-06-06T19:49

By Eartha
at 2017-06-07T06:44
at 2017-06-07T06:44

By Brianna
at 2017-06-12T04:51
at 2017-06-12T04:51

By Lydia
at 2017-06-12T16:44
at 2017-06-12T16:44

By Andrew
at 2017-06-16T19:29
at 2017-06-16T19:29

By Isla
at 2017-06-21T03:03
at 2017-06-21T03:03

By Isabella
at 2017-06-21T14:00
at 2017-06-21T14:00

By Edith
at 2017-06-24T01:11
at 2017-06-24T01:11

By Gary
at 2017-06-25T01:00
at 2017-06-25T01:00

By Andy
at 2017-06-26T12:13
at 2017-06-26T12:13

By Queena
at 2017-06-27T22:42
at 2017-06-27T22:42

By Madame
at 2017-07-01T13:37
at 2017-07-01T13:37

By Charlotte
at 2017-07-03T02:31
at 2017-07-03T02:31

By Regina
at 2017-07-06T19:40
at 2017-07-06T19:40

By Sandy
at 2017-07-07T22:22
at 2017-07-07T22:22

By Ina
at 2017-07-09T12:11
at 2017-07-09T12:11

By Rachel
at 2017-07-11T08:06
at 2017-07-11T08:06

By Wallis
at 2017-07-12T19:20
at 2017-07-12T19:20

By Genevieve
at 2017-07-13T09:46
at 2017-07-13T09:46

By Skylar Davis
at 2017-07-17T05:14
at 2017-07-17T05:14

By Zora
at 2017-07-19T02:06
at 2017-07-19T02:06

By Jake
at 2017-07-23T08:20
at 2017-07-23T08:20

By Carol
at 2017-07-27T05:34
at 2017-07-27T05:34

By Hedda
at 2017-07-28T14:41
at 2017-07-28T14:41

By Necoo
at 2017-07-29T00:10
at 2017-07-29T00:10

By Yuri
at 2017-07-31T01:44
at 2017-07-31T01:44

By Jessica
at 2017-08-03T21:55
at 2017-08-03T21:55

By Todd Johnson
at 2017-08-04T16:09
at 2017-08-04T16:09

By Christine
at 2017-08-08T22:35
at 2017-08-08T22:35

By Joe
at 2017-08-12T20:05
at 2017-08-12T20:05

By Hedy
at 2017-08-16T01:20
at 2017-08-16T01:20

By Emily
at 2017-08-20T03:52
at 2017-08-20T03:52

By Jack
at 2017-08-21T15:49
at 2017-08-21T15:49

By Hamiltion
at 2017-08-23T12:48
at 2017-08-23T12:48

By Elma
at 2017-08-23T19:02
at 2017-08-23T19:02

By Todd Johnson
at 2017-08-28T01:19
at 2017-08-28T01:19

By Andrew
at 2017-08-30T14:15
at 2017-08-30T14:15

By Catherine
at 2017-09-04T05:20
at 2017-09-04T05:20

By Suhail Hany
at 2017-09-07T09:29
at 2017-09-07T09:29

By Sierra Rose
at 2017-09-07T17:47
at 2017-09-07T17:47

By Doris
at 2017-09-11T19:49
at 2017-09-11T19:49

By Joseph
at 2017-09-12T18:14
at 2017-09-12T18:14

By Quintina
at 2017-09-14T20:22
at 2017-09-14T20:22

By Kumar
at 2017-09-17T22:34
at 2017-09-17T22:34

By Blanche
at 2017-09-21T00:37
at 2017-09-21T00:37

By Irma
at 2017-09-24T02:52
at 2017-09-24T02:52

By Odelette
at 2017-09-28T18:13
at 2017-09-28T18:13

By Barb Cronin
at 2017-10-03T01:25
at 2017-10-03T01:25

By Gilbert
at 2017-10-06T09:26
at 2017-10-06T09:26

By Delia
at 2017-10-07T21:36
at 2017-10-07T21:36

By Erin
at 2017-10-11T13:06
at 2017-10-11T13:06

By Bennie
at 2017-10-15T20:08
at 2017-10-15T20:08

By Odelette
at 2017-10-19T10:37
at 2017-10-19T10:37

By Hedy
at 2017-10-19T15:38
at 2017-10-19T15:38

By Hedda
at 2017-10-24T01:04
at 2017-10-24T01:04

By Jacky
at 2017-10-29T00:11
at 2017-10-29T00:11

By Bethany
at 2017-11-02T15:44
at 2017-11-02T15:44

By Mary
at 2017-11-02T18:35
at 2017-11-02T18:35

By Una
at 2017-11-07T11:27
at 2017-11-07T11:27

By Blanche
at 2017-11-08T16:04
at 2017-11-08T16:04

By Zora
at 2017-11-09T23:53
at 2017-11-09T23:53

By Steve
at 2017-11-14T14:32
at 2017-11-14T14:32

By Ula
at 2017-11-15T18:43
at 2017-11-15T18:43

By Agatha
at 2017-11-19T09:55
at 2017-11-19T09:55

By Michael
at 2017-11-23T01:31
at 2017-11-23T01:31

By Lily
at 2017-11-26T14:05
at 2017-11-26T14:05

By Daniel
at 2017-11-27T15:57
at 2017-11-27T15:57

By Hedwig
at 2017-11-28T17:59
at 2017-11-28T17:59

By Ethan
at 2017-11-29T05:29
at 2017-11-29T05:29

By Joseph
at 2017-12-03T13:49
at 2017-12-03T13:49

By Lucy
at 2017-12-08T11:20
at 2017-12-08T11:20

By Madame
at 2017-12-09T13:34
at 2017-12-09T13:34

By Linda
at 2017-12-14T07:28
at 2017-12-14T07:28

By Ingrid
at 2017-12-17T04:12
at 2017-12-17T04:12

By Isla
at 2017-12-22T00:12
at 2017-12-22T00:12

By Charlie
at 2017-12-25T02:05
at 2017-12-25T02:05

By Regina
at 2017-12-27T22:36
at 2017-12-27T22:36

By Victoria
at 2017-12-31T18:13
at 2017-12-31T18:13

By Irma
at 2018-01-04T21:15
at 2018-01-04T21:15

By Annie
at 2018-01-09T14:32
at 2018-01-09T14:32

By Anthony
at 2018-01-10T14:29
at 2018-01-10T14:29

By Elizabeth
at 2018-01-15T00:09
at 2018-01-15T00:09

By Iris
at 2018-01-19T22:46
at 2018-01-19T22:46

By Brianna
at 2018-01-23T12:35
at 2018-01-23T12:35

By Kyle
at 2018-01-26T02:04
at 2018-01-26T02:04

By Brianna
at 2018-01-26T21:33
at 2018-01-26T21:33

By Brianna
at 2018-01-31T03:26
at 2018-01-31T03:26

By Jacky
at 2018-02-01T20:23
at 2018-02-01T20:23

By Mary
at 2018-02-04T21:49
at 2018-02-04T21:49

By Susan
at 2018-02-07T16:14
at 2018-02-07T16:14

By Anthony
at 2018-02-10T14:24
at 2018-02-10T14:24

By Ethan
at 2018-02-12T19:45
at 2018-02-12T19:45

By Selena
at 2018-02-13T08:08
at 2018-02-13T08:08

By Zora
at 2018-02-16T02:10
at 2018-02-16T02:10

By Charlotte
at 2018-02-20T06:34
at 2018-02-20T06:34

By Madame
at 2018-02-20T10:55
at 2018-02-20T10:55

By Frederica
at 2018-02-22T09:48
at 2018-02-22T09:48

By Emily
at 2018-02-27T04:35
at 2018-02-27T04:35

By Mary
at 2018-03-01T12:33
at 2018-03-01T12:33

By Jack
at 2018-03-02T12:10
at 2018-03-02T12:10

By Oliver
at 2018-03-07T05:10
at 2018-03-07T05:10

By Christine
at 2018-03-08T13:19
at 2018-03-08T13:19

By Sarah
at 2018-03-12T11:10
at 2018-03-12T11:10

By Isabella
at 2018-03-14T05:45
at 2018-03-14T05:45

By Damian
at 2018-03-17T22:13
at 2018-03-17T22:13

By Sierra Rose
at 2018-03-22T00:35
at 2018-03-22T00:35

By Lily
at 2018-03-24T13:21
at 2018-03-24T13:21

By Hedda
at 2018-03-26T22:02
at 2018-03-26T22:02

By Zora
at 2018-03-28T02:23
at 2018-03-28T02:23

By Bennie
at 2018-03-30T17:25
at 2018-03-30T17:25

By Zanna
at 2018-04-04T14:26
at 2018-04-04T14:26

By Steve
at 2018-04-06T08:24
at 2018-04-06T08:24

By Cara
at 2018-04-11T07:30
at 2018-04-11T07:30

By Erin
at 2018-04-13T09:20
at 2018-04-13T09:20

By Regina
at 2018-04-13T14:54
at 2018-04-13T14:54

By Selena
at 2018-04-13T22:31
at 2018-04-13T22:31

By Jacky
at 2018-04-18T14:34
at 2018-04-18T14:34

By Edith
at 2018-04-18T18:05
at 2018-04-18T18:05

By Lauren
at 2018-04-22T21:22
at 2018-04-22T21:22

By Belly
at 2018-04-27T02:11
at 2018-04-27T02:11

By Una
at 2018-04-27T14:37
at 2018-04-27T14:37

By Thomas
at 2018-04-29T11:06
at 2018-04-29T11:06

By Yuri
at 2018-04-29T15:25
at 2018-04-29T15:25

By Edward Lewis
at 2018-05-04T11:38
at 2018-05-04T11:38

By Eden
at 2018-05-06T19:56
at 2018-05-06T19:56

By Christine
at 2018-05-09T15:39
at 2018-05-09T15:39

By Zora
at 2018-05-13T22:12
at 2018-05-13T22:12

By Elma
at 2018-05-16T07:19
at 2018-05-16T07:19

By Agnes
at 2018-05-16T15:58
at 2018-05-16T15:58

By Isabella
at 2018-05-21T14:58
at 2018-05-21T14:58

By Aaliyah
at 2018-05-24T02:42
at 2018-05-24T02:42

By Mary
at 2018-05-25T14:20
at 2018-05-25T14:20

By Vanessa
at 2018-05-25T21:39
at 2018-05-25T21:39

By Hedwig
at 2018-05-29T07:05
at 2018-05-29T07:05

By Agnes
at 2018-05-31T20:47
at 2018-05-31T20:47

By Aaliyah
at 2018-06-05T11:55
at 2018-06-05T11:55

By Charlie
at 2018-06-08T19:40
at 2018-06-08T19:40

By Belly
at 2018-06-08T23:00
at 2018-06-08T23:00

By Megan
at 2018-06-09T10:27
at 2018-06-09T10:27

By Steve
at 2018-06-11T12:29
at 2018-06-11T12:29

By Hardy
at 2018-06-12T14:46
at 2018-06-12T14:46

By Wallis
at 2018-06-14T11:42
at 2018-06-14T11:42

By Tracy
at 2018-06-15T11:56
at 2018-06-15T11:56

By Jack
at 2018-06-17T05:48
at 2018-06-17T05:48

By Olivia
at 2018-06-21T11:16
at 2018-06-21T11:16

By Donna
at 2018-06-21T13:09
at 2018-06-21T13:09

By Harry
at 2018-06-23T13:33
at 2018-06-23T13:33

By Callum
at 2018-06-26T09:05
at 2018-06-26T09:05

By Kelly
at 2018-06-30T23:54
at 2018-06-30T23:54

By David
at 2018-07-02T23:02
at 2018-07-02T23:02

By Gary
at 2018-07-06T16:37
at 2018-07-06T16:37

By Emma
at 2018-07-11T11:19
at 2018-07-11T11:19

By Andrew
at 2018-07-12T14:05
at 2018-07-12T14:05

By George
at 2018-07-13T21:35
at 2018-07-13T21:35

By Emma
at 2018-07-14T15:03
at 2018-07-14T15:03

By Hedda
at 2018-07-14T18:19
at 2018-07-14T18:19

By Quintina
at 2018-07-16T06:20
at 2018-07-16T06:20

By Kumar
at 2018-07-17T15:02
at 2018-07-17T15:02

By Ula
at 2018-07-20T09:09
at 2018-07-20T09:09

By Gilbert
at 2018-07-23T14:13
at 2018-07-23T14:13

By Tom
at 2018-07-25T20:53
at 2018-07-25T20:53

By Wallis
at 2018-07-30T17:43
at 2018-07-30T17:43

By Quanna
at 2018-08-01T03:58
at 2018-08-01T03:58

By Audriana
at 2018-08-01T15:26
at 2018-08-01T15:26

By Mia
at 2018-08-05T14:57
at 2018-08-05T14:57

By Gilbert
at 2018-08-06T14:45
at 2018-08-06T14:45

By Xanthe
at 2018-08-07T10:59
at 2018-08-07T10:59

By Kristin
at 2018-08-11T10:11
at 2018-08-11T10:11

By Ethan
at 2018-08-11T18:06
at 2018-08-11T18:06

By Eden
at 2018-08-13T11:25
at 2018-08-13T11:25

By Kama
at 2018-08-17T23:39
at 2018-08-17T23:39

By Yedda
at 2018-08-22T18:27
at 2018-08-22T18:27

By Ethan
at 2018-08-23T15:13
at 2018-08-23T15:13

By Bennie
at 2018-08-24T09:51
at 2018-08-24T09:51

By Rachel
at 2018-08-24T15:23
at 2018-08-24T15:23

By Damian
at 2018-08-25T05:29
at 2018-08-25T05:29

By Daph Bay
at 2018-08-28T17:44
at 2018-08-28T17:44

By Anonymous
at 2018-08-29T17:48
at 2018-08-29T17:48

By Zanna
at 2018-09-03T00:56
at 2018-09-03T00:56

By Caroline
at 2018-09-05T21:58
at 2018-09-05T21:58

By George
at 2018-09-07T04:54
at 2018-09-07T04:54

By Michael
at 2018-09-08T18:43
at 2018-09-08T18:43

By Hamiltion
at 2018-09-10T18:45
at 2018-09-10T18:45

By Emily
at 2018-09-13T16:39
at 2018-09-13T16:39

By John
at 2018-09-18T06:29
at 2018-09-18T06:29

By Valerie
at 2018-09-18T20:21
at 2018-09-18T20:21

By Andrew
at 2018-09-23T00:05
at 2018-09-23T00:05

By Audriana
at 2018-09-23T03:27
at 2018-09-23T03:27

By Zanna
at 2018-09-24T15:33
at 2018-09-24T15:33
Related Posts
矮湯:他們以為我參加選秀是愚人節玩笑

By Todd Johnson
at 2017-04-02T10:11
at 2017-04-02T10:11
Hawks 104:106 Bulls 數據

By Ina
at 2017-04-02T09:33
at 2017-04-02T09:33
太陽 @ 拓荒者

By Hedda
at 2017-04-02T09:30
at 2017-04-02T09:30
勒布朗IG

By Doris
at 2017-04-02T09:07
at 2017-04-02T09:07
公鹿計畫簽下後衛Gary Payton II

By Emma
at 2017-04-02T09:01
at 2017-04-02T09:01