灰熊灰狼交易 - NBA
By Quintina
at 2021-08-20T11:04
at 2021-08-20T11:04
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推 vince4687 : 小AI可以推給被搞 但是每一包換進來再脫手都沒增值 08/20 01:21
→ vince4687 : 目前灰熊戰力還有維持住就是自家選秀眼光+其他角 08/20 01:21
→ vince4687 : 色球員養成都有打出預期 08/20 01:21
推 vince4687 : 但是選到太強的基石球員又不敢大刀闊斧把陣容打掉再 08/20 01:24
→ vince4687 : 坦一年至少取得兩個全明星等級的天賦 就會變成這些 08/20 01:24
→ vince4687 : 淘寶交易在浪費Morant的紅利
其實我不是很懂,當你給出的球員價值已經很低時,能期待換回來的包裹有什麼價值?
Parsons換回來的兩位,再加上貴隊來的Dieng就是大頂薪年代簽的肥約,他們的實力就沒
辦法符合薪資該有的戰力,所以不管再怎麼變魔術都擺脫不了溢價約的事實,所以乾脆你
告訴我該怎麼交易才符合你說的增值好了?
→ vince4687 : 國王就是灰熊的另一個例子 不敢坦下去刷第二個天賦
別隊的狀況我就不說明了,但我想如果給國王迷選,他們寧願換個教練而不是坦不夠....
→ derwy : 單純好奇...#17大年首輪,但#10回推就變不是了嗎? 08/20 01:38
→ derwy : 而且湖人籤怎麼老是被當空氣,你們是都希望人家那台 08/20 01:38
→ derwy : 車開去撞山是吧...---
我也覺得很奇怪,明明跟鵜鶘交易拆開來看應該是大V換Adams+2020湖人籤 明明有賺到
一枚首輪簽,怎麼老是你一直忘記?大V會被交易就是到期約Kleiman沒把握用實惠價格
簽回來才賣的,所以你覺得放他近市場變空氣還是用18~20M續約三年比較好?
→ vince4687 : 原本#17就拿的到 不需要#10
我很好奇你說這句話的根據在哪?還是只因為Mock draft這樣寫? 17前面的隊伍就有雷霆
馬刺需要側翼有天賦球員來培養,你確定到17還選得到?Kleiman選秀後有說明從他們
內部調查出來,17是選不到ZW的,所以他們才往上交易,所以你會比灰熊的球探得到的
內幕消息還要準確嗎?即使退一萬步當他講的是官方敷衍話好了,前兩年他的選秀成果
足夠為他這次的決定背書,所以灰熊迷雖然錯愕但都會持續相信
(如果是前任制服組就會罵聲連連了)
→ vince4687 : 而且我從來都沒有說灰熊養的不好 是認為這篇文甚至 08/20 01:59
→ vince4687 : 是灰熊這幾年的交易操作都是失敗的那方
→ vince4687 : 你要是早一年把大V甚至是Clarke第一年打出來就決擇 08/20 02:23
→ vince4687 : 留哪個大前鋒然後今年21坦下去
我實在很好奇你要怎麼交易才算是成功的?所以是買能打的都賣掉才叫成功交易嗎?
→ vince4687 : 去年淘跟今年淘又是不同的事情 當然要是今年陣容明 08/20 02:26
→ vince4687 : 顯搞爛淘寶結果反而被Morant帶進季後賽的話 08/20 02:26
→ vince4687 : 事後又要檢討那幹嘛現在做這些交易了
所以你的路線是只有坦跟拼這兩條路嗎?沒有一支非奪冠球隊會把球隊藍圖搞得那麼極端
二分法,就算是當初[相信過程]最徹底的七六人也還在努力進行中,其他努力坦結果失敗
的球隊例子也比比皆日,說句不客氣的,就算給你坦到3狀元又怎樣?坦到3狀元你就能
奪冠了嗎?更不說現在新制樂透機率連讓你穩拿狀元都不容易了,就不懂為什麼你一直
叫灰熊要坦....
→ vince4687 : 但是像公鹿這樣都已經年年季後賽等級 還要搞到allin 08/20 02:43
→ vince4687 : 假日才讓字母續約 很難說在基石新秀第一張大約會不 08/20 02:43
→ vince4687 : 會有變數
當你已經拿到Ja這位基石,還要明目張膽的坦那才是會讓基石吹密的,暑假就有Zion的
家人不滿意鵜鶘的戰績所以在靠背的(印象中是這樣,有錯幫忙指正) 所以才不支持球
隊坦。
還是說你覺得灰熊賣掉大V就叫做要坦?好歹也拿回一個亞當補足的一下中鋒實力 即使
以這季來說他算是溢價約 但每場上個20分鐘也不是難事吧!更何況人家有在偷練三分喔
大V都可以在灰熊練出三分了,期望一下空擋投三分的亞當也不過分吧!
推 vince4687 : 我是建議要坦就坦到底或是繼續累積補強這兩條路 08/20 09:18
→ vince4687 : 畢竟拿到Morant就已經摸到季後賽了 你沒繼續微調陣 08/20 09:18
→ vince4687 : 容要坦也不早點坦的交易操盤給負評
看起來你的想法就是坦跟補強極端二分法。
我試著順著你的想法想一下理由,能找到的理由就是上季灰熊摸到季後賽
給了Kleiman更大的野心,要照你的邏輯大肆補強進入西區強權也是可以,但到了西冠
甚至西區第二輪一定會受到很大阻礙,側翼明顯沒人高中鋒又一直被人拉出來打點這是
難以彌補的差距,Kleiman想要衝出西區甚至拿冠軍就要彌補側翼漏洞
那這不是就在利用新秀紅利時間來調整陣容嗎? 而且也沒失去未來資產
況且如果沒有上季的季後賽經驗來發現這事實,照你的劇本坦坦坦能搓破這美妙的泡泡嗎
拜託不要把事情倒果為因
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→ vince4687 : 目前灰熊戰力還有維持住就是自家選秀眼光+其他角 08/20 01:21
→ vince4687 : 色球員養成都有打出預期 08/20 01:21
推 vince4687 : 但是選到太強的基石球員又不敢大刀闊斧把陣容打掉再 08/20 01:24
→ vince4687 : 坦一年至少取得兩個全明星等級的天賦 就會變成這些 08/20 01:24
→ vince4687 : 淘寶交易在浪費Morant的紅利
其實我不是很懂,當你給出的球員價值已經很低時,能期待換回來的包裹有什麼價值?
Parsons換回來的兩位,再加上貴隊來的Dieng就是大頂薪年代簽的肥約,他們的實力就沒
辦法符合薪資該有的戰力,所以不管再怎麼變魔術都擺脫不了溢價約的事實,所以乾脆你
告訴我該怎麼交易才符合你說的增值好了?
→ vince4687 : 國王就是灰熊的另一個例子 不敢坦下去刷第二個天賦
別隊的狀況我就不說明了,但我想如果給國王迷選,他們寧願換個教練而不是坦不夠....
→ derwy : 單純好奇...#17大年首輪,但#10回推就變不是了嗎? 08/20 01:38
→ derwy : 而且湖人籤怎麼老是被當空氣,你們是都希望人家那台 08/20 01:38
→ derwy : 車開去撞山是吧...---
我也覺得很奇怪,明明跟鵜鶘交易拆開來看應該是大V換Adams+2020湖人籤 明明有賺到
一枚首輪簽,怎麼老是你一直忘記?大V會被交易就是到期約Kleiman沒把握用實惠價格
簽回來才賣的,所以你覺得放他近市場變空氣還是用18~20M續約三年比較好?
→ vince4687 : 原本#17就拿的到 不需要#10
我很好奇你說這句話的根據在哪?還是只因為Mock draft這樣寫? 17前面的隊伍就有雷霆
馬刺需要側翼有天賦球員來培養,你確定到17還選得到?Kleiman選秀後有說明從他們
內部調查出來,17是選不到ZW的,所以他們才往上交易,所以你會比灰熊的球探得到的
內幕消息還要準確嗎?即使退一萬步當他講的是官方敷衍話好了,前兩年他的選秀成果
足夠為他這次的決定背書,所以灰熊迷雖然錯愕但都會持續相信
(如果是前任制服組就會罵聲連連了)
→ vince4687 : 而且我從來都沒有說灰熊養的不好 是認為這篇文甚至 08/20 01:59
→ vince4687 : 是灰熊這幾年的交易操作都是失敗的那方
→ vince4687 : 你要是早一年把大V甚至是Clarke第一年打出來就決擇 08/20 02:23
→ vince4687 : 留哪個大前鋒然後今年21坦下去
我實在很好奇你要怎麼交易才算是成功的?所以是買能打的都賣掉才叫成功交易嗎?
→ vince4687 : 去年淘跟今年淘又是不同的事情 當然要是今年陣容明 08/20 02:26
→ vince4687 : 顯搞爛淘寶結果反而被Morant帶進季後賽的話 08/20 02:26
→ vince4687 : 事後又要檢討那幹嘛現在做這些交易了
所以你的路線是只有坦跟拼這兩條路嗎?沒有一支非奪冠球隊會把球隊藍圖搞得那麼極端
二分法,就算是當初[相信過程]最徹底的七六人也還在努力進行中,其他努力坦結果失敗
的球隊例子也比比皆日,說句不客氣的,就算給你坦到3狀元又怎樣?坦到3狀元你就能
奪冠了嗎?更不說現在新制樂透機率連讓你穩拿狀元都不容易了,就不懂為什麼你一直
叫灰熊要坦....
→ vince4687 : 但是像公鹿這樣都已經年年季後賽等級 還要搞到allin 08/20 02:43
→ vince4687 : 假日才讓字母續約 很難說在基石新秀第一張大約會不 08/20 02:43
→ vince4687 : 會有變數
當你已經拿到Ja這位基石,還要明目張膽的坦那才是會讓基石吹密的,暑假就有Zion的
家人不滿意鵜鶘的戰績所以在靠背的(印象中是這樣,有錯幫忙指正) 所以才不支持球
隊坦。
還是說你覺得灰熊賣掉大V就叫做要坦?好歹也拿回一個亞當補足的一下中鋒實力 即使
以這季來說他算是溢價約 但每場上個20分鐘也不是難事吧!更何況人家有在偷練三分喔
大V都可以在灰熊練出三分了,期望一下空擋投三分的亞當也不過分吧!
推 vince4687 : 我是建議要坦就坦到底或是繼續累積補強這兩條路 08/20 09:18
→ vince4687 : 畢竟拿到Morant就已經摸到季後賽了 你沒繼續微調陣 08/20 09:18
→ vince4687 : 容要坦也不早點坦的交易操盤給負評
看起來你的想法就是坦跟補強極端二分法。
我試著順著你的想法想一下理由,能找到的理由就是上季灰熊摸到季後賽
給了Kleiman更大的野心,要照你的邏輯大肆補強進入西區強權也是可以,但到了西冠
甚至西區第二輪一定會受到很大阻礙,側翼明顯沒人高中鋒又一直被人拉出來打點這是
難以彌補的差距,Kleiman想要衝出西區甚至拿冠軍就要彌補側翼漏洞
那這不是就在利用新秀紅利時間來調整陣容嗎? 而且也沒失去未來資產
況且如果沒有上季的季後賽經驗來發現這事實,照你的劇本坦坦坦能搓破這美妙的泡泡嗎
拜託不要把事情倒果為因
--
我的文章更新,都在卡爾的粉絲團:
https://www.facebook.com/KaLELsports
個人運動視界部落格:
http://www.sportsv.net/authors/kimoge
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