洋將棄國籍 阿巴西等當「新台灣人」 - 籃球
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※ 引述《kenny1300175 (蘇湖)》之銘言:
: 2020-07-27 01:33 聯合報 / 記者曾思儒/台北報導
: 在台灣居住超過十年,世新大學塞內加爾「洋將」阿巴西即將成為「新台灣人」,世新教
: 頭吳昆典透露,阿巴西正在等待塞內加爾的放棄國籍文件,收到後送件就能領到中華民國
: 身分證,為台灣籃球圈注入新血。
: 阿巴西八歲就定居台灣,高中就讀HBL名校泰山高中,說著一口流利中文;他雖因超齡
: 沒能站上HBL舞台,但天生勁爆體能在UBA逐漸嶄露頭角,且在他領頭下,弟弟們也
: 先後踏入籃球圈,四弟阿布拉今年剛成為松山高中一員。
: 吳昆典說,就目前來看,一八七公分的阿巴西條件最好,且上大學後持續進步,「他本來
: 就有台灣護照,拿台灣居留證,等塞內加爾文件拿到,就能拿到身分證了。」
: https://udn.com/news/story/7003/4733195?from=udn-catelistnews_ch2
我認為阿巴西護照已經有了,申請身分證除了當個完全的台灣人外,
也是方便未來工作。
畢竟不管SBL P聯盟 CBA都可能未對阿巴西例子做出規範
有了身分證算多一份保險
至少我覺得SBL和P聯盟應該不會拒絕有身分證的阿巴西。
至於國家隊的狀況,主要看護照而已。
而且FIBA有給出不必16歲前拿到護照的例外狀況。
也就是菲律賓Slaughter的例子
不確定世界上有沒有更著名的例子,這裡姑且稱之Slaughter條款吧
懶得看條文的人請直接捲到「簡單說」
感謝 ElijahDukes 大大曾經在板上提供過文獻。
相關規定好像常在修改 和2018當時的規定又多了一些補充。
所以現在的規定也不一定適用於兩年後...
僅供參考
規定出自FIBA內規
第三冊《球員與裁判》(PLAYERS AND OFFICIALS)
第一章《球員的資格、國籍與可利用性》
(ELIGIBILITY, NATIONAL STATUS AND AVAILABILITY OF PLAYERS)
第二節《球員的國籍》(NATIONAL STATUS OF PLAYERS)
其中 和歸化最有關的一條是
第20條
---------------
a) 參加FIBA比賽的國家隊,隊上只能有一位16歲後才以歸化或其他
手段獲得國籍的球員,無論這額外的國籍在出生時是否被視為有效。
如果有球員出生就有權利獲得第二國籍,但一直到16歲才行使這項權
利,那麼也適用這項規定。
(譯按: 如陳堅恩、陳山眉16歲沒申請國籍 算歸化; 包喜樂有 不算歸化)
b) 就上述(a)項而言,假使有球員宣稱在16歲前就獲得合法國籍,
且無法提出發行日期在16歲生日前的個別護照,那麼秘書長可以行使
裁量權,決定該球員是否受到上述(a)項的限制。做出決定時,秘書
長必須考量下列要件:
-- 對於想打的國家隊,該球員在該國住了多少年。
-- 對於想打的國家隊,該球員打過了幾季的該國國內聯賽。
-- 對於想打的國家隊,其他任何足以建立該球員與該國重大連結的
要件。
(譯按: 如菲律賓Slaughter就通過秘書長裁量 以三個理由核定算本土球員)
c) 如果有球員在任何時間點擁有雙重或多重國籍,或是有球員轉換
過國籍,秘書長可以行使裁量權,決定他們是否受到上述(a)項限制。
做出決定時,秘書長必須考量上述3-20條b項之要件。
d) 假使根據3-20條做出了決定,相關國家協會可能需要支付一筆費用,
用來維持FIBA的行政開銷。(見3-350條)
譯註: 3-350條說費用2000-20000瑞士法郎,6萬-60萬台幣
---------------
你各位當兵時有沒有聽過主官裁量權?
FIBA秘書長就是有這麼大權力!
簡單說,16歲前拿到第二國家的護照
不然就付錢請FIBA秘書長裁決
然後就有機會像菲律賓得到一紙公文上戰場。
看到要付錢我就笑了。
以下附上原文作為參考。
http://www.fiba.basketball/internal-regulations/book3/players-and-officials.pdf
20.
a. A national team participating in a Competition of FIBA may have only
one player on its team who has acquired the legal nationalitv of that country
by naturalisation or by any other means after having reached the age of
sixteen(16), regardless of whether the additional nationality acquired is
deemed effective at birth. This provision applies also to any player
having the right to acquire another nationality at birth but who did not lay
claim to this right until after having reached the age of sixteen(16).
b. For purposes of letter (a.) above, in the event that a player claims to
have acquired a legal nationality before having reached the age of sixteen(16),
without presenting the respective passport with a date of issue before the
player's sixteenth 06) birthday, the Secretary General may decide in his sole
discretion that the player falls under the restriction of letter (a.) above.
In taking this decision, the Secretary General shall take into account the
following criteria:
- The number of years during which the player has lived in the country of the
national team for which the player wishes to play;
- The number of seasons during which the player has participated in domestic
competitions in the country of the national team for which the player wishes
to play;
- Any other criteria capable of establishing a significant link between the
player and the national team for which the player wishes to play.
c. The Secretary General may decide in his sole discretion that a player who
has or had at any point in time two or more nationalities or a player who has
changed nationality falls under the restriction of letter (a.) above. In
taking this decision, the Secretary General shall take into account the
criteria set out in 3-20.b., above.
d. In the event that a decision under this article 3-20 is issued, the
National Member Federation(s) concerned may be required to pay a fee in order
to cover FIBA's administrative costs (see article 3-350).
--
: 2020-07-27 01:33 聯合報 / 記者曾思儒/台北報導
: 在台灣居住超過十年,世新大學塞內加爾「洋將」阿巴西即將成為「新台灣人」,世新教
: 頭吳昆典透露,阿巴西正在等待塞內加爾的放棄國籍文件,收到後送件就能領到中華民國
: 身分證,為台灣籃球圈注入新血。
: 阿巴西八歲就定居台灣,高中就讀HBL名校泰山高中,說著一口流利中文;他雖因超齡
: 沒能站上HBL舞台,但天生勁爆體能在UBA逐漸嶄露頭角,且在他領頭下,弟弟們也
: 先後踏入籃球圈,四弟阿布拉今年剛成為松山高中一員。
: 吳昆典說,就目前來看,一八七公分的阿巴西條件最好,且上大學後持續進步,「他本來
: 就有台灣護照,拿台灣居留證,等塞內加爾文件拿到,就能拿到身分證了。」
: https://udn.com/news/story/7003/4733195?from=udn-catelistnews_ch2
我認為阿巴西護照已經有了,申請身分證除了當個完全的台灣人外,
也是方便未來工作。
畢竟不管SBL P聯盟 CBA都可能未對阿巴西例子做出規範
有了身分證算多一份保險
至少我覺得SBL和P聯盟應該不會拒絕有身分證的阿巴西。
至於國家隊的狀況,主要看護照而已。
而且FIBA有給出不必16歲前拿到護照的例外狀況。
也就是菲律賓Slaughter的例子
不確定世界上有沒有更著名的例子,這裡姑且稱之Slaughter條款吧
懶得看條文的人請直接捲到「簡單說」
感謝 ElijahDukes 大大曾經在板上提供過文獻。
相關規定好像常在修改 和2018當時的規定又多了一些補充。
所以現在的規定也不一定適用於兩年後...
僅供參考
規定出自FIBA內規
第三冊《球員與裁判》(PLAYERS AND OFFICIALS)
第一章《球員的資格、國籍與可利用性》
(ELIGIBILITY, NATIONAL STATUS AND AVAILABILITY OF PLAYERS)
第二節《球員的國籍》(NATIONAL STATUS OF PLAYERS)
其中 和歸化最有關的一條是
第20條
---------------
a) 參加FIBA比賽的國家隊,隊上只能有一位16歲後才以歸化或其他
手段獲得國籍的球員,無論這額外的國籍在出生時是否被視為有效。
如果有球員出生就有權利獲得第二國籍,但一直到16歲才行使這項權
利,那麼也適用這項規定。
(譯按: 如陳堅恩、陳山眉16歲沒申請國籍 算歸化; 包喜樂有 不算歸化)
b) 就上述(a)項而言,假使有球員宣稱在16歲前就獲得合法國籍,
且無法提出發行日期在16歲生日前的個別護照,那麼秘書長可以行使
裁量權,決定該球員是否受到上述(a)項的限制。做出決定時,秘書
長必須考量下列要件:
-- 對於想打的國家隊,該球員在該國住了多少年。
-- 對於想打的國家隊,該球員打過了幾季的該國國內聯賽。
-- 對於想打的國家隊,其他任何足以建立該球員與該國重大連結的
要件。
(譯按: 如菲律賓Slaughter就通過秘書長裁量 以三個理由核定算本土球員)
c) 如果有球員在任何時間點擁有雙重或多重國籍,或是有球員轉換
過國籍,秘書長可以行使裁量權,決定他們是否受到上述(a)項限制。
做出決定時,秘書長必須考量上述3-20條b項之要件。
d) 假使根據3-20條做出了決定,相關國家協會可能需要支付一筆費用,
用來維持FIBA的行政開銷。(見3-350條)
譯註: 3-350條說費用2000-20000瑞士法郎,6萬-60萬台幣
---------------
你各位當兵時有沒有聽過主官裁量權?
FIBA秘書長就是有這麼大權力!
簡單說,16歲前拿到第二國家的護照
不然就付錢請FIBA秘書長裁決
然後就有機會像菲律賓得到一紙公文上戰場。
看到要付錢我就笑了。
以下附上原文作為參考。
http://www.fiba.basketball/internal-regulations/book3/players-and-officials.pdf
20.
a. A national team participating in a Competition of FIBA may have only
one player on its team who has acquired the legal nationalitv of that country
by naturalisation or by any other means after having reached the age of
sixteen(16), regardless of whether the additional nationality acquired is
deemed effective at birth. This provision applies also to any player
having the right to acquire another nationality at birth but who did not lay
claim to this right until after having reached the age of sixteen(16).
b. For purposes of letter (a.) above, in the event that a player claims to
have acquired a legal nationality before having reached the age of sixteen(16),
without presenting the respective passport with a date of issue before the
player's sixteenth 06) birthday, the Secretary General may decide in his sole
discretion that the player falls under the restriction of letter (a.) above.
In taking this decision, the Secretary General shall take into account the
following criteria:
- The number of years during which the player has lived in the country of the
national team for which the player wishes to play;
- The number of seasons during which the player has participated in domestic
competitions in the country of the national team for which the player wishes
to play;
- Any other criteria capable of establishing a significant link between the
player and the national team for which the player wishes to play.
c. The Secretary General may decide in his sole discretion that a player who
has or had at any point in time two or more nationalities or a player who has
changed nationality falls under the restriction of letter (a.) above. In
taking this decision, the Secretary General shall take into account the
criteria set out in 3-20.b., above.
d. In the event that a decision under this article 3-20 is issued, the
National Member Federation(s) concerned may be required to pay a fee in order
to cover FIBA's administrative costs (see article 3-350).
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