有沒有老球迷覺得現代的比賽變單調了 - NBA

By Emma
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其實現在NBA百花齊放才最好看
本魯也已經30幾了
從2004年開始頻繁的看
我覺得現代籃球好看很多
原因如下
1. 除了少部分前場以外,每個NBA球員基本動作都非常扎實,大個子能切能買飯,
能後仰,有些還能投三分,後衛每個運球華麗球幾乎都不會掉,再加上外線準度提升
根本完全不能放,守到都可能會進,不守到幾乎8 9成都會得分,球員素質全面提升
,造成強隊弱隊天分差距變小,每一隊都可能贏每一隊,而且一不小心,強如勇士、
騎士,不管Lebron Curry KD多imba,都會有可能被任何一隊打爆。
2. 三分開始被強化,籃球比賽如果把三分線拿掉,我個人覺得會非常無聊,因為
離籃下越進得分越容易期望值越高。一個運動一定要有天賦體能以外的技術層面,
投籃這個技術因為三分線被利用,所以讓比賽更多變數。現在一個空檔三分的期望值
可能比灌籃還高,因此spacing變得很重要。籃球不再是一直往籃下殺就會贏的遊戲
3. 現在其實更重視戰術跟教練素質,因為球員跟球隊之間的天賦跟技術實在太接近,
現代籃球更重視隊與隊之間的對抗,而不是一兩個球員。勇士強不只強在先發幾個,
板凳深度、教練都很重要,馬刺是最好的例子,因為教練太強,球員都只是輔助,一個
好的系統好好執行還是可以贏天賦異稟但是沒有統合的隊伍。
4. 因為砲轟盛行,越來越多逆轉勝。比賽節奏越快,一隊贏1 20分真的有時候你一不小
心馬上被翻盤,你看很多比賽,就算贏了10分,很多時候先發都會打到2分鐘左右才下,
因為真的是不小心就被翻了
5. 花招越來越多,歐洲步、後撤步、橫移、再加上以前有的技術,現在每一場都可以
看到幾個非常精彩的play。
所有東西都在進步,因為科學訓練,和龐大的商機,現在的球員你把他擺到20年前絕對
打爆當代所有球隊。之前有人說巔峰公牛跟現在勇士打誰會贏,我只能說用以前的規則,
也許五五波,用現在的規則,公牛絕對被打爆。當然不代表當代的公牛不偉大,他的偉大
程度可能是有史第一。
這就好像第一代iphone,他的地位和帶來的影響力一定超過現在所有智慧型手機。但是
你真的把情懷拿掉,現在幾乎市面上所有的手機都比第一代iphone好。
籃球的終極模式應該就是像現在這樣,易攻難守。並不是說現代籃球不強調防守,只是
太難守住而已。
※ 引述《Townshend (the WHO)》之銘言:
: 原po是從1994年開始看nba的老人
: 看到現在沒有間斷過
: 過去的打法比較重視戰術
: PG慢慢的運過半場
: 慢慢的設定各種戰術
: 如果戰術被視破就換個戰術在24秒內慢慢規劃半場進攻
: 現代的比賽感覺變的單調了
: 拿到球不是
: 1)切入上籃
: 2)切入買飯
: 3)投三分
: 就是 4)切入傳出來投三分
: 中距離也慢慢的消失
: 每天看highlight比賽內容都大同小異
: 差別只在穿的隊服不一樣
: 漸漸覺得有點懶得看了
: 個人認為造就現代nba切入與三分成顯學的現象
: 關鍵的人物有三人:
: 1) LBJ 坦克切入 不過他的身體條件是歷史罕見的 要學也學不起來 所以切入潮流在兩
: 千年初期還不明顯
: 2)harden 買飯買的出神入化就是擺明要吃飯 大家才知道切入的好處 命中率高 沒進還
: 有買飯的機會
: 3)curry 雖然走路人跟sbl很早就知道三分的期望值高 可惜太不準
: curry是橫空出世的天才
: 在他出現之前沒有人能想到三分自走炮能夠又多又準
: 也從此開始大三分時代
: 切入跟三分 就是現代nba的代表
: 也有老球迷一樣覺得現代的比賽變單調嗎?
--
本魯也已經30幾了
從2004年開始頻繁的看
我覺得現代籃球好看很多
原因如下
1. 除了少部分前場以外,每個NBA球員基本動作都非常扎實,大個子能切能買飯,
能後仰,有些還能投三分,後衛每個運球華麗球幾乎都不會掉,再加上外線準度提升
根本完全不能放,守到都可能會進,不守到幾乎8 9成都會得分,球員素質全面提升
,造成強隊弱隊天分差距變小,每一隊都可能贏每一隊,而且一不小心,強如勇士、
騎士,不管Lebron Curry KD多imba,都會有可能被任何一隊打爆。
2. 三分開始被強化,籃球比賽如果把三分線拿掉,我個人覺得會非常無聊,因為
離籃下越進得分越容易期望值越高。一個運動一定要有天賦體能以外的技術層面,
投籃這個技術因為三分線被利用,所以讓比賽更多變數。現在一個空檔三分的期望值
可能比灌籃還高,因此spacing變得很重要。籃球不再是一直往籃下殺就會贏的遊戲
3. 現在其實更重視戰術跟教練素質,因為球員跟球隊之間的天賦跟技術實在太接近,
現代籃球更重視隊與隊之間的對抗,而不是一兩個球員。勇士強不只強在先發幾個,
板凳深度、教練都很重要,馬刺是最好的例子,因為教練太強,球員都只是輔助,一個
好的系統好好執行還是可以贏天賦異稟但是沒有統合的隊伍。
4. 因為砲轟盛行,越來越多逆轉勝。比賽節奏越快,一隊贏1 20分真的有時候你一不小
心馬上被翻盤,你看很多比賽,就算贏了10分,很多時候先發都會打到2分鐘左右才下,
因為真的是不小心就被翻了
5. 花招越來越多,歐洲步、後撤步、橫移、再加上以前有的技術,現在每一場都可以
看到幾個非常精彩的play。
所有東西都在進步,因為科學訓練,和龐大的商機,現在的球員你把他擺到20年前絕對
打爆當代所有球隊。之前有人說巔峰公牛跟現在勇士打誰會贏,我只能說用以前的規則,
也許五五波,用現在的規則,公牛絕對被打爆。當然不代表當代的公牛不偉大,他的偉大
程度可能是有史第一。
這就好像第一代iphone,他的地位和帶來的影響力一定超過現在所有智慧型手機。但是
你真的把情懷拿掉,現在幾乎市面上所有的手機都比第一代iphone好。
籃球的終極模式應該就是像現在這樣,易攻難守。並不是說現代籃球不強調防守,只是
太難守住而已。
※ 引述《Townshend (the WHO)》之銘言:
: 原po是從1994年開始看nba的老人
: 看到現在沒有間斷過
: 過去的打法比較重視戰術
: PG慢慢的運過半場
: 慢慢的設定各種戰術
: 如果戰術被視破就換個戰術在24秒內慢慢規劃半場進攻
: 現代的比賽感覺變的單調了
: 拿到球不是
: 1)切入上籃
: 2)切入買飯
: 3)投三分
: 就是 4)切入傳出來投三分
: 中距離也慢慢的消失
: 每天看highlight比賽內容都大同小異
: 差別只在穿的隊服不一樣
: 漸漸覺得有點懶得看了
: 個人認為造就現代nba切入與三分成顯學的現象
: 關鍵的人物有三人:
: 1) LBJ 坦克切入 不過他的身體條件是歷史罕見的 要學也學不起來 所以切入潮流在兩
: 千年初期還不明顯
: 2)harden 買飯買的出神入化就是擺明要吃飯 大家才知道切入的好處 命中率高 沒進還
: 有買飯的機會
: 3)curry 雖然走路人跟sbl很早就知道三分的期望值高 可惜太不準
: curry是橫空出世的天才
: 在他出現之前沒有人能想到三分自走炮能夠又多又準
: 也從此開始大三分時代
: 切入跟三分 就是現代nba的代表
: 也有老球迷一樣覺得現代的比賽變單調嗎?
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