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Tweet hyping Anthony Davis sends Spurs fans rallying to support Tim Duncan
推特Anthony Davis影片引發馬刺迷聲援支持Tim Duncan
This can most readily be filed under “yeah, right,” but a tweet showing
Anthony Davis hitting a three with the caption “Tim Duncan not doing this”
is being considered a thrown gauntlet on the social media platform.
下面這段推特影片大概可以馬上被歸類成"喔~是嗎?"的類別，但是這段AD投進三分球，並
寫著"Tim Duncan做不到這樣"的影片被認為是在社群媒體上引戰的。
影片: https://twitter.com/i/status/1340368783228080129
A quick read of any of the thousand responses show pretty quickly that this
was not a popular opinion.
隨便看一下下面的推特回復很快就會知道那不是大部分人的想法。
Many argue that Tim’s five championships outshine The Brow’s lone ring.
Even deeper, many believe Davis would still be without a title had he not
paired up with LeBron James in Los Angeles last season.
很多人說TD的五冠遠超AD的僅僅只一冠。更甚者，很多人相信要不是AD上一季跟LBJ組隊，
AD是拿不到那一冠的。
Either way, these discussions are always opinion-based and there is no
clear-cut answer.
不管如何，這些討論都只是大家意見，這是沒有明確的答案的。
Or is there?
還是是有答案的呢？
記者Dan Rather推特: https://twitter.com/DanRather/status/1340888417517727745
"Another one of these who is better “debates?” I can’t believe this folks.
It’s Tim Duncan. No disrespect to others. But it’s sort of a slam dunk.
Goodnight."
「又是另外一個"誰比較強"的討論。我不敢相信那些傢伙。當然是TD，但是沒有對其他人
不敬的意思。但是這是明顯不過的答案，晚安。」
In a response tweet from Dan Rather, the journalist dismisses the premise,
which is appropriate given Duncan and Davis aren’t even in the same tier of
talent.
從Dan Rather推特來看，若是基於TD跟AD根本不在同一天賦水平上來看，他否決了那推特
的說法也是合理的。
This isn’t defense of The Big Fundamental or a homer backing his team, the
discussion is truly limited to a very elite and small group of revolutionary
players.
這不是在幫TD辯護或者就是支持馬刺，而是這個討論所能討論到的球員是很小一部分非常
頂尖且革命性的球員。
Tim Duncan is one of these elite players whose talent was immense enough to
build around him a sustainable championship team. The talent wasn’t limited
to a specific time and proved evolutionary as the NBA changed.
TD是幾位頂尖球員有著頂級天賦，可以圍繞著他打造一支長期爭冠能力球隊的球員之一，
這天賦不管在NBA史上哪一段期間都可以，而且隨著聯盟變遷，他的天賦證明也隨之進化
的。
That is top tier.
那就是頂尖的。
The term “superstar” gets thrown around these days in relation to players
who win MVP, players who break records, and players who get paid top dollar.
而如今的"超巨"已經被濫用了，球員拿MVP，或者破紀錄，或者拿大錢，都算超巨。
But a true superstar is a rare occurrence in the NBA. A transcendent player
comes along once in an era.
但是真正的超巨是極少出現的，那會是一個時代才有一位的傑出球員。
And of those players, Duncan is often overlooked because he was not flashy,
he played for a “boring” franchise, and his coach emphasized defense over
three-point shooting.
而在這些球員裡，TD常常因為他不浮誇，他替一支"無聊"的球隊打球，以及馬刺教練強調
防守而不強調三分球等原因常被忽視。
TD廣告影片: https://youtu.be/AnOQWc1ps5w
His talent won championships but didn’t impress fans of explosive,
high-energy, highlight reel basketball.
他的天賦讓他拿數座冠軍杯，但是沒有充滿爆發的，高張力的，可以上高光影片的籃球讓
球迷留下印象。
Currently, LeBron James is the only top tier superstar in the league. He is
the only player whose game remains competitive throughout years of changes
across the NBA landscape. He remains an anchor for any team who hopes to win
it all. And he is a force on the court.
現今，LBJ是聯盟唯一一個頂尖的球員。他是唯一一個經過聯盟球風變化這麼多年來仍舊可
以保持競爭力的球員，他仍是一個在任何一支想要拿冠軍的隊伍想要的主力球員，他在場
上仍舊是一股重要的力量。
The rest of the NBA is filled with greatness at varying levels, but none
reaching James’ magnitude. A quick look at the last 20 years of MVPs shows
that some of the best the NBA has to offer were only good in their time, and
some even for a short time at that.
聯盟裡其他球員在各個程度上都有一些不同的優異表現，但是沒有一個有達到LBJ的程度。
就看看過去20年內的MVP就可以知道有一些球員只能在他們的時代能夠拿出很好的表現，有
些甚至只能打短短的時間。
Stephen Curry and Kevin Durant are two of the most elite of the last decade,
but couldn’t succeed without one another. (And yes, I know Curry won without
Durant in 2015, but a hobbled Cavaliers team came back full strength and
proved 2015 a fluke.)
Stehen Curry跟KD是過去十年內兩位頂尖球員之一，但是兩個人沒有了對方就不成了。(是
的，我知道SC在2015年在沒KD的狀況下拿下冠軍，但是隔年蹣跚的騎士滿血回歸，證明了
2015只是運氣好。)
James Harden is a former MVP, three-time scoring champion, and one of the
most difficult players to defend and he still can’t get over the hump. Even
pairing him with 2017 MVP Russell Westbrook didn’t yield great results.
鬍子是前MVP，3屆得分王，最難守的球員之一，但是他至今仍拿不到冠軍，即使搭配了
2017年的MVP龜龜仍舊沒有好結果。
Kawhi Leonard had the opportunity to become a top tier player, but that has
ship sailed.
可愛曾經有機會成為頂尖，但是那機會已經消逝了。
Giannis Antetokounmpo could be in that league, but the window on his ability
to take a team to the Finals is closing.
字母哥可能有機會，但是他有機會帶隊拿總冠的時間已經開始越來越短了。
Don’t get me wrong, these are all great players in their own right that any
team would love to have as part of their franchise. But their talent is
limited. In many cases bound by time and place. In other cases the limit is
the player’s own ambition.
不要搞錯了，這些都是好球員，許多球隊都會想要他們在隊上。但是他們的天賦是有限
的，都是得要在特定的時間以及在甚麼球隊。在其他方面，是球員的野心限制了他們。
Stephen Curry is the greatest shooter of all time, but his career would have
been sidelined by injuries (even more so that it has) had he ever had to play
against the late 80s/early 90s Detroit Pistons.
Curry會是史上最佳射手，但是若是他碰到了80-90年代的活塞時，他的職業生涯可能就會
因為傷勢的關係常常上不了場。
James Harden spent his offseason being inspired by Damon Wayans’ portrayal
of James “The Grim Reaper” Roper. Not exactly the behavior and discipline
of a player whose game defines and shapes the NBA.
鬍子在休賽季期間藉由Damon Wayans飾演的重量級拳擊手"死神"James Roper得到了啟發，
但是他現在行為的以及訓練已經不是那個曾經以打球方式改變了聯盟的球員。
Some guys don’t have the leadership, some don’t have the drive, some don’t
have the talent, some can’t adjust to the game when it is not going their
way.
有些球員沒有領導力，有些球員沒有意志力，有些沒天賦，有些則是沒辦法隨著聯盟生態
改變而去調整打球方式。
Tim Duncan could do all. Nineteen years of relevance, playoffs every season,
five championships, and over one thousand regular season wins.
TD全可以做到，打了19年，年年進季後，5屆總冠軍，正規賽季勝場超過1000場。
It’s not a viable question. No disrespect to Anthony Davis. The discussion
cannot be argued for any second tier NBA player.
不是要對AD不尊重，這根本算不上個問題，對於第二等級的球員根本不能討論。
It’s like comparing apples to to a five-course meal.
這就像是拿蘋果去跟五道菜餚去比一樣。
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Tweet hyping Anthony Davis sends Spurs fans rallying to support Tim Duncan
推特Anthony Davis影片引發馬刺迷聲援支持Tim Duncan
This can most readily be filed under “yeah, right,” but a tweet showing
Anthony Davis hitting a three with the caption “Tim Duncan not doing this”
is being considered a thrown gauntlet on the social media platform.
下面這段推特影片大概可以馬上被歸類成"喔~是嗎?"的類別，但是這段AD投進三分球，並
寫著"Tim Duncan做不到這樣"的影片被認為是在社群媒體上引戰的。
影片: https://twitter.com/i/status/1340368783228080129
A quick read of any of the thousand responses show pretty quickly that this
was not a popular opinion.
隨便看一下下面的推特回復很快就會知道那不是大部分人的想法。
Many argue that Tim’s five championships outshine The Brow’s lone ring.
Even deeper, many believe Davis would still be without a title had he not
paired up with LeBron James in Los Angeles last season.
很多人說TD的五冠遠超AD的僅僅只一冠。更甚者，很多人相信要不是AD上一季跟LBJ組隊，
AD是拿不到那一冠的。
Either way, these discussions are always opinion-based and there is no
clear-cut answer.
不管如何，這些討論都只是大家意見，這是沒有明確的答案的。
Or is there?
還是是有答案的呢？
記者Dan Rather推特: https://twitter.com/DanRather/status/1340888417517727745
"Another one of these who is better “debates?” I can’t believe this folks.
It’s Tim Duncan. No disrespect to others. But it’s sort of a slam dunk.
Goodnight."
「又是另外一個"誰比較強"的討論。我不敢相信那些傢伙。當然是TD，但是沒有對其他人
不敬的意思。但是這是明顯不過的答案，晚安。」
In a response tweet from Dan Rather, the journalist dismisses the premise,
which is appropriate given Duncan and Davis aren’t even in the same tier of
talent.
從Dan Rather推特來看，若是基於TD跟AD根本不在同一天賦水平上來看，他否決了那推特
的說法也是合理的。
This isn’t defense of The Big Fundamental or a homer backing his team, the
discussion is truly limited to a very elite and small group of revolutionary
players.
這不是在幫TD辯護或者就是支持馬刺，而是這個討論所能討論到的球員是很小一部分非常
頂尖且革命性的球員。
Tim Duncan is one of these elite players whose talent was immense enough to
build around him a sustainable championship team. The talent wasn’t limited
to a specific time and proved evolutionary as the NBA changed.
TD是幾位頂尖球員有著頂級天賦，可以圍繞著他打造一支長期爭冠能力球隊的球員之一，
這天賦不管在NBA史上哪一段期間都可以，而且隨著聯盟變遷，他的天賦證明也隨之進化
的。
That is top tier.
那就是頂尖的。
The term “superstar” gets thrown around these days in relation to players
who win MVP, players who break records, and players who get paid top dollar.
而如今的"超巨"已經被濫用了，球員拿MVP，或者破紀錄，或者拿大錢，都算超巨。
But a true superstar is a rare occurrence in the NBA. A transcendent player
comes along once in an era.
但是真正的超巨是極少出現的，那會是一個時代才有一位的傑出球員。
And of those players, Duncan is often overlooked because he was not flashy,
he played for a “boring” franchise, and his coach emphasized defense over
three-point shooting.
而在這些球員裡，TD常常因為他不浮誇，他替一支"無聊"的球隊打球，以及馬刺教練強調
防守而不強調三分球等原因常被忽視。
TD廣告影片: https://youtu.be/AnOQWc1ps5w
His talent won championships but didn’t impress fans of explosive,
high-energy, highlight reel basketball.
他的天賦讓他拿數座冠軍杯，但是沒有充滿爆發的，高張力的，可以上高光影片的籃球讓
球迷留下印象。
Currently, LeBron James is the only top tier superstar in the league. He is
the only player whose game remains competitive throughout years of changes
across the NBA landscape. He remains an anchor for any team who hopes to win
it all. And he is a force on the court.
現今，LBJ是聯盟唯一一個頂尖的球員。他是唯一一個經過聯盟球風變化這麼多年來仍舊可
以保持競爭力的球員，他仍是一個在任何一支想要拿冠軍的隊伍想要的主力球員，他在場
上仍舊是一股重要的力量。
The rest of the NBA is filled with greatness at varying levels, but none
reaching James’ magnitude. A quick look at the last 20 years of MVPs shows
that some of the best the NBA has to offer were only good in their time, and
some even for a short time at that.
聯盟裡其他球員在各個程度上都有一些不同的優異表現，但是沒有一個有達到LBJ的程度。
就看看過去20年內的MVP就可以知道有一些球員只能在他們的時代能夠拿出很好的表現，有
些甚至只能打短短的時間。
Stephen Curry and Kevin Durant are two of the most elite of the last decade,
but couldn’t succeed without one another. (And yes, I know Curry won without
Durant in 2015, but a hobbled Cavaliers team came back full strength and
proved 2015 a fluke.)
Stehen Curry跟KD是過去十年內兩位頂尖球員之一，但是兩個人沒有了對方就不成了。(是
的，我知道SC在2015年在沒KD的狀況下拿下冠軍，但是隔年蹣跚的騎士滿血回歸，證明了
2015只是運氣好。)
James Harden is a former MVP, three-time scoring champion, and one of the
most difficult players to defend and he still can’t get over the hump. Even
pairing him with 2017 MVP Russell Westbrook didn’t yield great results.
鬍子是前MVP，3屆得分王，最難守的球員之一，但是他至今仍拿不到冠軍，即使搭配了
2017年的MVP龜龜仍舊沒有好結果。
Kawhi Leonard had the opportunity to become a top tier player, but that has
ship sailed.
可愛曾經有機會成為頂尖，但是那機會已經消逝了。
Giannis Antetokounmpo could be in that league, but the window on his ability
to take a team to the Finals is closing.
字母哥可能有機會，但是他有機會帶隊拿總冠的時間已經開始越來越短了。
Don’t get me wrong, these are all great players in their own right that any
team would love to have as part of their franchise. But their talent is
limited. In many cases bound by time and place. In other cases the limit is
the player’s own ambition.
不要搞錯了，這些都是好球員，許多球隊都會想要他們在隊上。但是他們的天賦是有限
的，都是得要在特定的時間以及在甚麼球隊。在其他方面，是球員的野心限制了他們。
Stephen Curry is the greatest shooter of all time, but his career would have
been sidelined by injuries (even more so that it has) had he ever had to play
against the late 80s/early 90s Detroit Pistons.
Curry會是史上最佳射手，但是若是他碰到了80-90年代的活塞時，他的職業生涯可能就會
因為傷勢的關係常常上不了場。
James Harden spent his offseason being inspired by Damon Wayans’ portrayal
of James “The Grim Reaper” Roper. Not exactly the behavior and discipline
of a player whose game defines and shapes the NBA.
鬍子在休賽季期間藉由Damon Wayans飾演的重量級拳擊手"死神"James Roper得到了啟發，
但是他現在行為的以及訓練已經不是那個曾經以打球方式改變了聯盟的球員。
Some guys don’t have the leadership, some don’t have the drive, some don’t
have the talent, some can’t adjust to the game when it is not going their
way.
有些球員沒有領導力，有些球員沒有意志力，有些沒天賦，有些則是沒辦法隨著聯盟生態
改變而去調整打球方式。
Tim Duncan could do all. Nineteen years of relevance, playoffs every season,
five championships, and over one thousand regular season wins.
TD全可以做到，打了19年，年年進季後，5屆總冠軍，正規賽季勝場超過1000場。
It’s not a viable question. No disrespect to Anthony Davis. The discussion
cannot be argued for any second tier NBA player.
不是要對AD不尊重，這根本算不上個問題，對於第二等級的球員根本不能討論。
It’s like comparing apples to to a five-course meal.
這就像是拿蘋果去跟五道菜餚去比一樣。
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