掛框犯規?詹皇:暫停時想掛多久都行 - NBA

Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2016-12-29T11:28

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原文恕刪

看到這個問題引起熱烈討論,決定來整理一下規則上是怎麼寫的

目前的癥結就是

1.掛框是否違反運動道德(unsportsmanlike conduct technical)

2.有關此篇中提出的during the game的認定 http://bbs.hupu.com/18110929.html

首先針對第一點

維基上有寫 https://goo.gl/ekkcHn

Non-unsportsmanlike conduct technical fouls are defined per NBA Rule 12,
Section V, Paragraph c, and none count towards a fine, ejection or
suspension. These fouls are assessed for excessive time-outs, defensive three
seconds, scratched player dressing and playing, excessive personal fouls
because team is out of players, shattering backboards, or delay of game. An
offensive player who intentionally hangs on the backboard, unless it is legal
for safety reasons, is fined $500 but is only assessed a non-unsportsmanlike
conduct technical foul.

官方的規則書也有明確定義

http://imgur.com/a/BR0uC

http://imgur.com/a/W5nNc

所以掛框這件事只有不是因為安全因素(避免受傷),原則上是可以吹T的

而且這個技術犯規不屬於違反運動道德的類別

而平常說吃兩個T會被趕出場是指違反運動道德的T

此點在規則書也有寫

http://imgur.com/a/nrcqH




再來就是第二個問題,也是這個T該不該吹的癥結點─during the game的認定

找了一下官方的規則書發現有明確定義

http://imgur.com/a/Q9yPD

(1) Pre-game and/or Half-time warm-ups—No penalty to be assessed by
officials.

(2) During the game—Non-unsportsmanlike conduct technical foul. Under NO
circumstances will that player be ejected from the game.

也就是說,除了中場休息與開賽前,基本上都屬於during the game的範疇

所以裁判報告的論點是正確的

至於有沒有(deliberately)故意掛框的認定就看個人主觀了


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Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2016-12-30T02:51
不管拉 我詹掛個框錯了嗎?
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2017-01-02T16:05
Oo霸氣ㄉ斯oO
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2017-01-06T03:20
規則怎麼就要怎樣吹阿 聯盟遇到大咖的就龜的跟什麼
一樣 只會被當笑話
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2017-01-06T18:34
表弟齒套掉出來都會被吹犯規 雙重標準到這樣
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2017-01-07T22:02
腿詹硬要講欸
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2017-01-12T02:59
During the game有開賽前喔
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2017-01-16T14:10
你詹皇天下第一人餒 想掛多久干裁判屁事
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2017-01-20T20:13
進球後掛框本來就不阻礙比賽呀 除非是掛在自家框
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2017-01-23T12:12
走步掛框丟水瓶 沒事兒沒事兒
William avatar
By William
at 2017-01-25T08:27
我是詹粉都覺得有點不妥... 就事論事...
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2017-01-26T18:41
Oo無限期支持噓噓母斯$我勇最高oO
斯斯有三種 姆斯姆斯姆斯 ccc
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-01-27T20:06
蛹迷 趕快出來啊
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2017-01-31T06:46
裁判灌得到籃嗎?灌得到再來嘴我詹皇
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2017-02-03T05:02
不管啦 詹皇說沒犯規就是沒 朕的旨意你敢違抗?
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2017-02-06T06:01
哈欠~
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-02-08T22:55
我皇籃框上拉屎你也管不著~
George avatar
By George
at 2017-02-09T05:23
我看kd柯鋁本人都沒大家這麼氣
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2017-02-12T22:36
詹迷覺得不妥+1 灌進還是下來慶祝比較好
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2017-02-17T21:14
一堆在下面反串詹粉的噁不噁心?
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2017-02-21T21:48
說自己是詹粉 說服力才有upup嚕
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2017-02-22T00:34
你詹在這樣下去,第一SF要被我PG搶走嘍
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2017-02-25T15:50
我是詹粉 覺得不妥 為什麼要野性復發
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2017-02-26T03:26
我皇爽掛9掛 裁判灌籃給我看阿
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2017-02-27T00:20
你是米粉
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2017-03-01T04:39
那天輸球到今天還沒走出來 反串一下臭了嗎?
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2017-03-04T06:26
好像也是 給他們出廁所透透氣
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2017-03-07T06:47
很重要嗎 勇士就是輸球了
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2017-03-08T02:55
比賽能輸 嘴不能輸啊!!!我勇fighting!!
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2017-03-10T00:24
前面那篇裡面一堆腿彌臉又腫了
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2017-03-11T01:11
你這其實還是沒解釋during the game的認定啊...= =
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2017-03-14T11:45
推這篇~ 我是詹粉~ 多拉那第二下真的不太好~
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2017-03-18T08:53
技術犯規不是裁判想吹就吹 裁判沒有吹就沒事啊 看看
TD連笑一下就被吹T了
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2017-03-19T15:31
也覺得不妥,但比賽也過了,詹酸在這邊酸有什麼意義
嗎?
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2017-03-19T16:41
沒被吹真的是牌子大+主場吧~ (得了便宜就別賣乖~
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2017-03-23T11:30
但是酸酸死命追打這點真的挺無聊的
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2017-03-27T04:33
這種實質上對比賽沒啥影響的也拼命酸~ 已經找不到
別的東西酸了嗎?
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2017-03-31T04:42
真好笑,扯東扯西的詹粉,自己行別人不行
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2017-04-04T04:18
詹皇都洗白奪冠了,現在做甚麼都是對的啦!!!!!!!
酸酸別再酸了
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2017-04-05T01:27
是籃框不好沒趕緊甩開姆斯 要吹也吹籃框
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2017-04-06T02:48
詹酸不就霸佔廁所最強嗎 還是還在海邊找褲子
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2017-04-10T14:16
我覺得就事論事,掛久了不好
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2017-04-11T13:21
我也覺得是不太妥 但裁判當下沒吹勇勇也不用一直叫
前面RJ笑一個吃T才莫名
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2017-04-13T18:35
雖然我被逗笑了 不過姆斯這次是真的掛太久了
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2017-04-16T13:16
其實大家都知道他掛著就是有點挑釁意味,大家都心
知肚明只是有人支持有人看他不爽而已
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-04-18T11:13
很明顯LBJ知道分寸阿 加上已有先例 下次就會收斂
倒是有些人因為這球沒被吹急的跳腳 哈XD
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2017-04-20T19:11
詹皇掛在上面沒有露出像TD那種笑臉,當然不能吹T
George avatar
By George
at 2017-04-24T14:36
不管啦 就是因為腿詹掛框才輸的啦
要求重賽
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2017-04-26T11:43
推個認真翻規則書
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2017-04-27T04:08
我覺得那是被電到才會扭成那樣 我詹被整
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2017-04-27T09:22
姆斯掛著無違和啊 尊重好嗎
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2017-04-27T21:40
你皇籃框上拉屎你也管不著~ 哈哈哈
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2017-05-01T11:47
好啦 打星號好不好? 這次也是輸給自己啦 不怕
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-05-03T15:10
一堆廁所迷想帶風向 但理性詹粉不斷打他們臉
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2017-05-03T21:15
朕想掛多久就多久 不行嗎?
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2017-05-05T14:33
這球明顯是為了RJ被判T那球討回來ㄚ
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2017-05-07T10:51
那你綠想踢蛋就踢蛋 不行嗎?
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2017-05-09T11:10
原來是掛框阿 那姿勢我還以為在空幹呢
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2017-05-13T06:23
月退女母迷最喜歡拖別人下水
卻不願就事論事
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2017-05-18T05:02
看看上面有多少詹迷在就事論事吧 褲子趕快穿上
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2017-05-21T07:44
沒什麼好特別討論的 感覺有點小題大作!
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2017-05-22T09:38
感覺勇迷真無辜 都被詹酸拖下水
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2017-05-22T15:39
科迷站出來
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2017-05-23T09:34
吊掛是靈長目的天性耶!掛久一點也是合情合理ok的^^
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2017-05-27T01:33
灌完下來眨眼也會吃T,那不如掛著比較帥
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-05-31T09:55
喔喔,推
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2017-06-03T02:38
喇棒其實很會看風向 他發現這次有爭議 下次就不會再
犯 非常靈光的
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2017-06-05T16:01
所以到底基於什麼不能掛框 在沒妨礙比賽的情況下
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2017-06-07T00:44
不管啦 我詹能掛框 你只能在這邊講規則
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2017-06-08T12:19
就算規則不允許,我詹做的就是沒錯
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2017-06-10T20:29
當然是爭議啊,畢竟沒有規則是完美的吧一定有瑕疵
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2017-06-12T01:22
http://i.imgur.com/APOZNBR.jpg
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2017-06-15T11:37
詹皇最愛由上往下看惹
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2017-06-20T07:21
我覺得這討論來的也是有一點久 那天一結束國外就有
人討論了
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2017-06-20T11:06
集氣滿了放一下錯了嗎 熱血耶
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2017-06-21T19:46
籃球規則是姆斯決定的算
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2017-06-25T12:50
姆斯你敢吹喔
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2017-06-30T02:48
老大不小了 還這麼不懂把心情收好 學學石佛好嗎
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2017-07-01T15:10
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-07-03T08:41
一路走來 始終中二
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2017-07-03T22:01
掛久點 讓大家看大腿多大隻
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2017-07-06T06:55
規則在他眼裡是有用喔
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2017-07-10T23:18
我皇就是規則,你敢嘴?
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2017-07-13T18:40
不管啦,不支持姆斯就是酸酸
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2017-07-15T15:25
結果推文友人看原PO的回文嗎 基本上還是定義模糊啊
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2017-07-19T01:10
爽啦 在主場打聖誕大戰就是這樣才激情
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2017-07-22T15:44
又不是起腳踢人那種會害別人受傷的動作
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2017-07-24T19:51
也不是在大幅領先的時侯嘲弄對手
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2017-07-26T10:23
討論成這樣,真的不知道是誰心裡受傷了,在討拍拍
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2017-07-27T00:11
非勇迷 但說真的 還拉那一下 很明顯是故意的吧
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2017-07-31T23:50
詹酸離開廁所慶祝的機率比待測所高吧
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2017-08-02T16:21
當規則遇到你皇 規則就該自動讓路轉彎

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