投手對決??? - 棒球

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By Gilbert
at 2007-08-08T22:53

Table of Contents

※ 引述《Honokawyt (澤渡)》之銘言:
: 兩隊的投手要怎麼對決?
: 明明各自面對的是另一隊的打者
: 又不是國聯 投手有上打擊
: 能和投手對決的 只有打擊者吧
: 我一直想不透....兩名投手要怎麼對決

我們評量一個投手的表現時,
ERA跟勝場數是兩個常用的指標,
所以可以從這兩個指標來思考。

1.ERA﹕投手面對的是打擊者,
投手壓得住對方打者則ERA低,壓不住則ERA高,
跟對方投手完全沒有關係,也跟自己隊友打擊表現沒有關係,
投完以後,你單場的ERA就是你今天的成績單。

2.勝場數﹕一個投手要拿到勝投,簡單來說就是﹕
(自己投球表現-對方打擊表現)>(對方投手表現-自己隊友打擊表現)
滿足上面不等式就可拿到勝投。
這樣看來,拿不拿勝投,對方投手表現就是一個有影響的因素,
對方投手若是強投,你拿到勝投的機會就小,反之則大,
一場比賽勝投只有一位,誰搶到誰贏,
這樣你感受得到對決的氣氛了嗎?

回到你的問題,你想不透「兩名投手要怎麼對決」,
就是你只考慮第一點而沒想到第二點,
或者你覺得第二點沒有那麼重要,不是一種對決的因素。
你可以問自己一個問題﹕
(小王先發八局掉一分拿敗投)vs(小王先發八局掉兩分拿勝投)
你比較喜歡哪一個?
如果你只想到投手是跟打擊者對決,
對方投手是誰都無所謂,反正又不是投手對決,
那你應該會選前者,前者明顯小王投打對決優於後者,
你選擇前者嗎?
我想很多人會選擇後者,
那為什麼一堆人想不通「勝投只有一個,投手搶勝投也是一種對決」呢?

再舉一個例子﹕
假設有一種比賽是忍耐力比賽,
一隊兩個人,一個負責打人,另一個負責挨打,
比賽規則是「你打我一分鐘後換我打你一分鐘,先倒地的隊輸」,
結果兩隊的挨打手忍耐力都超強,打了三個小時都沒有一隊倒地,
雙方挨打手滿身是血卻不放棄,
你能感受到這是挨打手之間意志力的對決嗎?
還是你認為挨打手面對的是對方的打手,
又不是兩隊挨打手互K,哪來的對決?
你的想法是哪一個?

你現在瞭解「兩名投手要怎麼對決」了嗎?

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Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2007-08-13T20:22
好文
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By Wallis
at 2007-08-15T07:25
這就是棒球'隊'
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By Ingrid
at 2007-08-17T12:52
恩,受益良多 謝謝
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By Agatha
at 2007-08-17T18:53
原PO的觀點也不能說錯,這種對決畢竟比較間接
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By Victoria
at 2007-08-20T22:07
建議把最後一句修掉...沒必要針對性這麼強
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By Jack
at 2007-08-22T12:24
好聞
好文
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By Delia
at 2007-08-24T10:34
push~
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By Mia
at 2007-08-28T09:51
推~ 寫的那麼認真 也不見原PO來推一下
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By Callum
at 2007-08-30T13:12
說得好
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By Quintina
at 2007-09-03T00:38
男子漢的對決要像老克一樣,看對方不爽直接"K"...
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By Ingrid
at 2007-09-06T04:03
第二點..有時候勝投候選人是會被救援投手搞雜的.. 囧
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By Rosalind
at 2007-09-09T13:07
比雙方挨打的忍耐力......不過最好再國聯可k投手
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哈哈 挨打手好好笑 樓上迷路了嗎? 禾斗禾斗
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