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#最新消息 根據聯盟說法,昨日電視輔助判決改判的引用條款為補述規則的:
3.25【本壘衝撞相關條例】
C款之(4)-註解
「封壘的概念與認定意即原本可能「安全得分」的跑壘員,確實因捕手腳之違法站位造成
阻擋而無法觸壘被觸殺出局時,則可成立捕手違規。」
(圖片來源: 中華職棒發行之「規則補述」第59頁)
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意思就是說,重播審閱小組認定跑壘者陳俊秀有安全得分機會。
認定捕手陳家駒違法阻擋。
出處:https://bit.ly/2RfKCk5
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聯盟坳成這樣真的很難看,被酸真的自找的
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※ 編輯: waiting0801 (1.200.212.78 臺灣), 09/11/2020 14:11:15
推 f59952: 搞得像是: 秀:如果他膝蓋不在那邊 我早就過去得分 09/11 14:11
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推 LastDinosaur: 請問怎樣叫「可能得分」 09/11 14:11
推 DarkKnight: 下次球衣互換再看看 09/11 14:11
推 funnycar: 卑鄙猿吱助 09/11 14:11
推 monfish: 死到有剩的跑壘原來是能安全得分的wwwwwwww 09/11 14:11
→ bbo9527: 4/22就不會封壘 之前抓統一跑者也不會算 結論就是為了護 09/11 14:11
推 citpo: 棒籃一家親 阻擋任你行 09/11 14:11
噓 zu00405479: 大家以後通通衝本壘 有機會安全得分就要歡迎光臨my縫 09/11 14:11
噓 ghiting76914: 真的是自由心證條款欸 09/11 14:12
→ bbo9527: 行才去找規則來合理護航結論 09/11 14:12
→ Lattendue: 過三壘就有機會得分吧XD 09/11 14:12
推 terry66: 有死到有剩嗎 不是看不太出來誰先到嗎@@ 09/11 14:12
推 jack2324: 直接開戰了,那個我說明年轉播不要了嗎? 09/11 14:12
推 Tamama56: 中肯推,以下開放某迷噓 09/11 14:12
推 Arsenal1017: 最後會跟你說因為當時沒挑戰 09/11 14:12
噓 kafing89: 安全得分定義在哪???本壘板全部露出? 09/11 14:12
推 aa1477888: 波西條款直接改名護送條款好了zzz 09/11 14:12
噓 sh780327: 哪隻眼睛看到安全得分 09/11 14:12
推 c6587924: 這真的可以讓檢調進場了 有夠黑的 這個聯盟 XDDDDDD 09/11 14:12
推 legendd: 卑鄙猿吱助 XD 09/11 14:13
→ f59952: 所以才會看這麼久嗎? 因為秀秀速度太快 應該可以得分 09/11 14:13
推 hahalily: 明明死到有剩= = 09/11 14:13
推 discoveryray: 前一小時剛打出來的啦 09/11 14:13
推 snowy456: 以後不用紅綠燈了 因為過三壘都有可能得分 09/11 14:13
→ yamahaya: 秀:如果不是捕手腳卡在那 我早就用魯夫橡膠腳踏進本壘 09/11 14:13
噓 Lung1217: 顏色對了跑本壘都有機會得分 09/11 14:13
推 whywhywhycc: 我認定吱吱的跑壘猿都有機會得分 讚讚 09/11 14:13
→ matlab1106: 發行日是什麼時候? 09/11 14:13
→ waynedd: 4/22當時兄弟有挑戰..結果還是判詹仔出局.. 09/11 14:13
推 borhaur: 1%機率也是可能得分吧 09/11 14:13
噓 Skyblueway: 什麼叫可安全得分? 09/11 14:14
推 ShauEn: 用量子力學可能得分啦 有那麼一絲穿越空間得分的可能 09/11 14:14
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→ s555666: 我是黑人問號 09/11 14:14
噓 amovie: 可能「安全得分」的定義是三小 09/11 14:14
噓 s83106: 安全得分XDDDD 09/11 14:14
噓 BalaBalaDaBa: 安全得分怎麼定義的?草創聯盟要不要教一下 09/11 14:14
推 jenny86179: 好個自由心證的安全得分 以後捕手都不準碰本壘 一靠 09/11 14:14
→ jenny86179: 近就是阻擋 09/11 14:14
推 monfish: 捕手持球手套都擋在腳前了還不是死到有剩我也是笑笑 09/11 14:14
推 dloslaker: 前提是違法站位啊,就沒有違法站位吼 09/11 14:14
推 lodosho0224: 那以後站在3壘就直接盜本壘了 反正我有機會安全得分 09/11 14:14
→ s13140709: 捕手都有可能漏球 所以跑者都有機會得分啦 09/11 14:14
推 colalight: 怎樣叫可能得分?腳違法站位的定義?感覺漏洞一堆 09/11 14:14
推 BlaBlaBon: 那樓上那張圖為什麼不可能安全得分== 這條就標準吱由猩 09/11 14:14
→ BlaBlaBon: 證啊 09/11 14:14
噓 d06: 其他條細則的規定都比這條清楚 聯盟硬要說是根據這條來判, 09/11 14:14
→ d06: 球員是要怎麼站位 09/11 14:14
推 LAKobeBryant: 紅色衣服就是安全得分啊 09/11 14:14
推 i376ers: 就認定跑壘猿回本壘直接算得分就好啦 09/11 14:14
噓 LLLLLyx: 滑壘衝撞+輔助判決還安全得分 真的都再猿謊 09/11 14:15
噓 kukukuma: 老邦說有可能會夾殺,陳俊秀會滑下去然後拉桿往回跑… 09/11 14:15
推 sdg235: 所以什麼叫絕對不可能得分?先解釋一下啊 09/11 14:15
噓 JoeGibsonJr: 哪裡可以安全得分了 09/11 14:15
推 kang8561: 4/22可以魚躍龍門 說好的保護跑壘員呢 09/11 14:15
推 chshsnail: 以後哪個捕手敢站在本壘板上就鏟死他 09/11 14:15
噓 j63190: 還沒觸殺到都可能得分,你能保證觸殺的時候球不會掉出來 09/11 14:15
推 Grandslammmm: 錯字改一下吧 只要是跑壘"猿"就可能得分 09/11 14:15
→ bbo9527: 他用這個補述講的好像很有理 但壓根沒有講什麼是所謂的 09/11 14:15
噓 whitezealman: 雞腿換碩士 陳家駒沒有違法站位 所以這一條根本不 09/11 14:15
推 yijhen: 老邦可能有看天能啊,秀秀倒轉回三壘這樣 09/11 14:15
→ sdg235: 只要衝本壘都有可能安全得分啊,是在講幹話喔 09/11 14:15
噓 DustinFu: 每個play都有機會得分啊,講啥小幹話 09/11 14:15
→ bbo9527: {安全得分}定義 基本上還是人說了算 下次我看這點又可以 09/11 14:16
→ bbo9527: 拿出來搞事了 09/11 14:16
推 realbezhemei: 我幫聯盟定義 穿紅衣的即為可安全得分 09/11 14:16
→ LLLLLyx: 要這樣講任何CASE都有機會安全得分啊 以後沒本壘攻防看了 09/11 14:16
→ whitezealman: 成立 猿謊越猿越無力 檢調真的不用查? 09/11 14:16
推 s0914714: 這條是在講三小XD 09/11 14:16
→ DustinFu: 老邦講那個夾殺明顯就是在凹,虧他還打棒球出身的,超瞎 09/11 14:16
推 gna239: 太神啦 爪看勝負跟生命一樣嗎? 09/11 14:16
噓 yuetsu: 註釋寫得比條文還要模糊是在註釋三小 09/11 14:17
推 marx93521: 昨天play兩個點 第一是捕手有無違法站位 第二是跑者安 09/11 14:17
→ marx93521: 全回壘的定義 09/11 14:17
推 kgbc2112: 只要跑壘員還在跑就都有可能安全得分啊 要不要乾脆都判S 09/11 14:17
→ kgbc2112: AFE 09/11 14:17
噓 johnnyguava: 我用爬的回本壘也是"可能「安全得分」" 09/11 14:17
→ bbo9527: 很聰明阿 在規則A下補述A-1來護航判決 但A-1裡面又出現了 09/11 14:18
→ marx93521: 照昨天來看頂多就是一半一半怎麼可能是安全 09/11 14:18
→ LLLLLyx: 傳的再快再準也有機會漏接 三壘跑本壘一律得分 繼續草創 09/11 14:18
→ bbo9527: 沒有清楚定義的東西(安全得分) 而下次就可以為了護航搞出 09/11 14:18
→ BalaBalaDaBa: 以後捕手真的要一梯退三步了 09/11 14:18
→ bbo9527: A-2 然後無限重複無限護航 讚啦 09/11 14:18
→ jsai: 可能安全得分 好啊 現在就看你怎麼判這可能安全 09/11 14:19
推 volfken: 所以違法佔位在哪? 09/11 14:19
推 Grandslammmm: 就算被觸殺了也叫可能得分判封壘 屌不屌 我就是規則 09/11 14:19
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→ jwpllove: 直接無視這條了 09/11 14:19
噓 whitezealman: 補述是在規則不明時才拿來補充的 況且根本也不符合 09/11 14:19
推 s0914714: 優先權很重要 到底你判決的順位是啥啦?? 09/11 14:20
→ d06: 馬的 就直接寫持球與非持球的狀況能幹嘛不能幹嘛就好 09/11 14:20
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噓 monfish: 偉哉猿盟 昨天捕手是連母法都沒違規 結果適用子法補述www 09/11 14:20
→ whitezealman: 補述條件 很明顯是為了寫劇本事後猿謊 卑鄙猿吱助 09/11 14:21
→ daradara: 只要沒出局都有可能安全得分啊.... 09/11 14:21
推 dgq75148: 當初就覺得60豪那球 詹A沒直接把他撞飛很可惜 09/11 14:21
推 t1016d: 如果捕手人不要在本壘附近 每個跑者都該安全得分啊 09/11 14:23
推 zzh1014: 不是得分就是出局,非黑即白,遇到某隊就跑出1個可能會 09/11 14:24
→ zzh1014: 得分的模糊空間,厲害厲害 09/11 14:24
→ pizza81324: 說死到有剩的可以回去看重播嗎?啊就take到小腿而不 09/11 14:24
→ pizza81324: 是take到腳 09/11 14:24
推 sam0412: 三壘有人就強迫取分,捕手要讓路 09/11 14:25
推 Skyblueway: 教學一下 是 tag 09/11 14:26
噓 hyd789: 可能安全得分? 09/11 14:26
→ crusaders811: 乾快笑死 09/11 14:26
→ elainelove: 就是因為充裕才Tag小腿啊,誰會想Tag穿著釘鞋的腳啊 09/11 14:26
噓 mussina001: 有安全得分機會? 喔喔喔 下次換別隊跑又說是穩死的了 09/11 14:26
推 v7q4: 差那麼遠還可以「安全得分」???? 笑死 09/11 14:27
→ mussina001: 沒有標準就是標準 中華吱棒 讚讚 09/11 14:27
→ bypetty: 委猿說了算 主審以後別判本壘攻防了 反正不是主審說了算 09/11 14:27
噓 heybear: 委猿說的算 09/11 14:28
推 yaieki: 捕手佔位違法誰判的 還是吱棒(不)自由心證啊 09/11 14:29
推 smallweek: 可是裁判自己心證是不可以挑戰的,聯盟請把這從可挑戰 09/11 14:38
→ smallweek: 中移除 09/11 14:38
→ waynedd: 麼不TAG腳要TAG身體呢??居然用TAG哪一個部位來決定是否可 09/11 14:41
→ waynedd: 能得分??Y 09/11 14:41
噓 rtka: 這跟下面第6點又衝突了阿 09/11 14:42
→ rtka: "可能安全得分"時補手不能阻擋 "可能被判出局"時不可視為補 09/11 14:44
→ rtka: 手妨礙 這到底在講什麼? 09/11 14:44
→ bbs0840738: 一堆可能 這規則真的是廢到笑 乾脆寫裁判說得算好了 09/11 14:45
推 monfish: 種花吱棒:跑壘猿時適用(4)註 猿捕手時就適用(6) 懂? 09/11 14:46
噓 rtka: 而且這補述似乎沒公開過(現場記者都不知道) 加上補述不就是 09/11 14:50
→ rtka: 補充說明嗎,為什麼反倒優先適用補述 09/11 14:51
推 bigdongua: 改成跟老人壘球一樣啦 09/11 15:09
噓 Maupassant: 可安全得分是什麼意思 09/11 15:16
噓 spursforever: 按照4/22那樣乾脆直接小腿踢下去 09/11 17:33
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