年度防守第一隊 (老大有9次,銅牆鐵壁) - NBA

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: Kobe 的防守非常優異,這一點是不容否認的,
: 可是他的防守不像 九次防守第一隊 所展現出來的這麼頂級。
: 1. Kobe 生涯季後賽並沒有哪個系列賽曾經有效限制明星級外線球員。
: Jordan 這種事蹟太多了,舉個最經典的,1992 Finals Jordan 除了進攻打爆 Drexler,
: 還用防守把 西區喬丹 Drexler 守到只有 40.7 FG%、15.0 3P%!
: Drexler 可是排的上史上前五名的 SG!
: Payton 這種事蹟也很多,像是 1996 西區決賽,
: 把 John Stockton 守到 39.7 FG%, 9.9 Pts, 7.6 Ast。
: Stockton 在季賽成績是 53.8 FG%,14.7 Pts,11.2 Ast。
: 其他近代有名的外線大鎖,像是 Pippen、Bowen、Kidd 等人,都有過在
: 系列賽有效限制明星級外線球員的表現,就唯獨 Kobe 沒辦到過。
: 2. Kobe 不僅在季後賽沒有成功限制過明星級外線球員,還被爆過好幾次。
: 2000 Finals,Kobe 沒有守 Miller 就算了,跑去守 Rose 還被 Rose 打爆。
哇靠,我還以為18年前在教室看直播的我看錯場咧。
隨便一搜尋:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3J-6SNoBGQ&t=62s
第一戰Miller就16投1中,守到Kobe賽後還有專訪,能說沒守我也是只能廠廠了。
系列賽基本上大多數都是KB在對位的,你是平行時空?
Miller第三戰22投11中,KB受傷沒上場,巧合?
就算第三戰沒上要算他身上,Miller 系列賽命中率是 40.9%。
而且照你的邏輯,趁KB受傷 Miller 和 Rose 跑來欺負他囉?
: 2001 Finals,Kobe 第一場球主守 Allen Iverson,上半場就被 AI 爆了 30 分,
: 讓 Phil Jackson 趕緊換 Tyronn Lue 去守 AI。
: 之後的比賽 Kobe 就是主守 Aaron McKie。XDD
一個半場就拿來當基準,那KB生涯一百多場40+,對手包括AK47、Bowen、Tony Allen
那這些號稱大鎖的球員,在你的評價又是什麼?
: 2002 Finals,Kobe 沒有去守攻擊發動機 Kidd,反而跑去守 Kerry Kittles。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7MSfif-mRE
我不知道你那時候生了沒,但隨便搜索就是 KB 在守,平行時空?
每場幾乎都有對位到,你跟我說沒守?
: 2004 Finals,Kobe 一開始主守 Hamilton,可是 Billups 把 Payton 打爆後,
: Phil Jackson 換 Kobe 來守 Billups,結果 Billups 拿到 FMVP。
我不知道你那時生了沒有,但 KB 那系列賽大部分都是守 Hamilton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR9-t12Yl2M
Hamilton 系列賽命中率 40.2%,我覺得算是你需要的代表作?(Rip該季命中率45.5%)
就算KB這系列投籃很渣,也不用連防守端亂講吧?
: 2008 Finals,Kobe 不管是守 Ray Allen、Paul Pierce、 Rondo 都是不合格的表現。
: Pierce 前三輪 19.0 Pts,5.1 Reb,4.1 Ast,44.3% FG%,35.2% 3P%
: 總冠軍賽 21.8 Pts,4.5 Reb,6.3 Ast,43.2% FG%,39.3% 3P%
: Ray 前三輪 14.2 Pts,3.4 Reb,2.8 Ast,40.3% FG%,34.0% 3P%
: 總冠軍賽 20.3 Pts,5.0 Reb,2.5 Ast,50.7% FG%,52.4% 3P%
: 不管是 Pierce 或是 Ray 都是在總冠軍賽有更佳表現,Kobe 身為湖人外圍第一大鎖,
: 實在是看不出 Kobe 有成功限制住哪一位球員,尤其是 Kobe 防守時間最長的 Ray,
: 根本就是在總冠軍賽變身。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkXnQba6Phg&t=25s
怎麼看,大部分都是 Radmanovic、Ariza、Luke 主守 Pierce,
何況 Pierce 系列賽命中率比前三輪差,覺得他表現更佳是什麼邏輯?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJxSdQf9zBE
我不會說 KB 一定會守得很好,但至少看起來有一半以上 Allen 是 Sasha 在守的。
查數據沒什麼不好,但是不要亂掰故事。
: Kobe 防不住 Pierce 與 Ray 就算了,居然想去吃二年級生 Rondo 的豆腐,
: 打出 21 分,7 籃板,8 助攻,6 抄截的系列賽 Rondo 個人最佳表現。
: 身為球隊老大、常年防守第一隊、湖人外圍第一大鎖、當季 MVP,
: 守不住 Ray、Pierce、Rondo 的責任應該是 Kobe 一輩子的黑點!
: 當年被戲稱 Gasoft 的 Gasol,可是成功限制住 KG 喔!
: KG 在東區前三輪威的跟什麼一樣,以命中率 51.7% 拿到場均 21 分,
: 可是到了總冠軍賽面對 Gasoft,KG 命中率只有 42.9%,場均只有 18 分。
: 2011 Western Conference Semifinals,Kobe 整個被小牛隊的射手射翻了,
: 尤其是 Kobe 主防的 Terry,系列賽 FG 58.7%,3P 68.4%,Terry 看到
: Kobe 來防守,心中一定想說又可以刷分了!
: 一定有人會說 Kobe 當時受傷了,可是 Kobe 只要上場比賽,
: 他自己就不會把傷勢當藉口,
: 更不用說二年級生的 Rondo 腳上帶傷依然打爆 Kobe。
: 3. Kobe 生涯有五次被對面的球員砍下五十分,
: 這在任何一位號稱外線防守大鎖裡面應該是奇蹟了吧?
: Antawn Jamison 拿下 51 分那一場,Kobe 當時 22 歲,防守第二隊。
: 這場球兩人對位不多,就不多做討論。
: Stephon Marbury 拿下 50 分那一場,Kobe 當時 22 歲,防守第二隊。
: 這場球 Kobe 多次防守 Marbury 的回合都被打爆。
: Allan Houston 拿下 53 分那一場,Kobe 當時 24 歲,防守第一隊。
: 這場球 Kobe 被 Houston 顏射好幾次,不管是面框或是背框都被射的滿臉豆花。
: Gilbert Arenas 拿下 60 分那一場,Kobe 當時 28 歲,防守第一隊。
: 這場球 Kobe 簡直是被打傻了,Arenas 延長賽 16 分幾乎都是在 Kobe 頭上拿的,
: 延長賽 16 分也創下當時 NBA 紀錄。
: Arenas 一戰成名!在外線大鎖 Kobe 頭上拿到 60 分!
: Allen Iverson 拿下 51 分那一場,Kobe 當時 29 歲,防守第一隊。
: 這場球湖人隊哪個球員上去防 Iverson 都被打爆,包括 Kobe。
這跟前面論調一樣,若要以一場比賽來看
KB生涯一百多場40+,他的對手都不應該稱為防守大鎖?
不是這麼評論的吧
KB 生涯末期就是防守開小差,就算我是科迷也不否認。
但你的邏輯實在很難讓人認同,特別是亂掰故事。
至少在我想法內,籃球比賽應該不是看 BOX 編出平行時空的故事吧。
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: 可是他的防守不像 九次防守第一隊 所展現出來的這麼頂級。
: 1. Kobe 生涯季後賽並沒有哪個系列賽曾經有效限制明星級外線球員。
: Jordan 這種事蹟太多了,舉個最經典的,1992 Finals Jordan 除了進攻打爆 Drexler,
: 還用防守把 西區喬丹 Drexler 守到只有 40.7 FG%、15.0 3P%!
: Drexler 可是排的上史上前五名的 SG!
: Payton 這種事蹟也很多,像是 1996 西區決賽,
: 把 John Stockton 守到 39.7 FG%, 9.9 Pts, 7.6 Ast。
: Stockton 在季賽成績是 53.8 FG%,14.7 Pts,11.2 Ast。
: 其他近代有名的外線大鎖,像是 Pippen、Bowen、Kidd 等人,都有過在
: 系列賽有效限制明星級外線球員的表現,就唯獨 Kobe 沒辦到過。
: 2. Kobe 不僅在季後賽沒有成功限制過明星級外線球員,還被爆過好幾次。
: 2000 Finals,Kobe 沒有守 Miller 就算了,跑去守 Rose 還被 Rose 打爆。
哇靠,我還以為18年前在教室看直播的我看錯場咧。
隨便一搜尋:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3J-6SNoBGQ&t=62s
第一戰Miller就16投1中,守到Kobe賽後還有專訪,能說沒守我也是只能廠廠了。
系列賽基本上大多數都是KB在對位的,你是平行時空?
Miller第三戰22投11中,KB受傷沒上場,巧合?
就算第三戰沒上要算他身上,Miller 系列賽命中率是 40.9%。
而且照你的邏輯,趁KB受傷 Miller 和 Rose 跑來欺負他囉?
: 2001 Finals,Kobe 第一場球主守 Allen Iverson,上半場就被 AI 爆了 30 分,
: 讓 Phil Jackson 趕緊換 Tyronn Lue 去守 AI。
: 之後的比賽 Kobe 就是主守 Aaron McKie。XDD
一個半場就拿來當基準,那KB生涯一百多場40+,對手包括AK47、Bowen、Tony Allen
那這些號稱大鎖的球員,在你的評價又是什麼?
: 2002 Finals,Kobe 沒有去守攻擊發動機 Kidd,反而跑去守 Kerry Kittles。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7MSfif-mRE
我不知道你那時候生了沒,但隨便搜索就是 KB 在守,平行時空?
每場幾乎都有對位到,你跟我說沒守?
: 2004 Finals,Kobe 一開始主守 Hamilton,可是 Billups 把 Payton 打爆後,
: Phil Jackson 換 Kobe 來守 Billups,結果 Billups 拿到 FMVP。
我不知道你那時生了沒有,但 KB 那系列賽大部分都是守 Hamilton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR9-t12Yl2M
就算KB這系列投籃很渣,也不用連防守端亂講吧?
: 2008 Finals,Kobe 不管是守 Ray Allen、Paul Pierce、 Rondo 都是不合格的表現。
: Pierce 前三輪 19.0 Pts,5.1 Reb,4.1 Ast,44.3% FG%,35.2% 3P%
: 總冠軍賽 21.8 Pts,4.5 Reb,6.3 Ast,43.2% FG%,39.3% 3P%
: Ray 前三輪 14.2 Pts,3.4 Reb,2.8 Ast,40.3% FG%,34.0% 3P%
: 總冠軍賽 20.3 Pts,5.0 Reb,2.5 Ast,50.7% FG%,52.4% 3P%
: 不管是 Pierce 或是 Ray 都是在總冠軍賽有更佳表現,Kobe 身為湖人外圍第一大鎖,
: 實在是看不出 Kobe 有成功限制住哪一位球員,尤其是 Kobe 防守時間最長的 Ray,
: 根本就是在總冠軍賽變身。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkXnQba6Phg&t=25s
何況 Pierce 系列賽命中率比前三輪差,覺得他表現更佳是什麼邏輯?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJxSdQf9zBE
查數據沒什麼不好,但是不要亂掰故事。
: Kobe 防不住 Pierce 與 Ray 就算了,居然想去吃二年級生 Rondo 的豆腐,
: 打出 21 分,7 籃板,8 助攻,6 抄截的系列賽 Rondo 個人最佳表現。
: 身為球隊老大、常年防守第一隊、湖人外圍第一大鎖、當季 MVP,
: 守不住 Ray、Pierce、Rondo 的責任應該是 Kobe 一輩子的黑點!
: 當年被戲稱 Gasoft 的 Gasol,可是成功限制住 KG 喔!
: KG 在東區前三輪威的跟什麼一樣,以命中率 51.7% 拿到場均 21 分,
: 可是到了總冠軍賽面對 Gasoft,KG 命中率只有 42.9%,場均只有 18 分。
: 2011 Western Conference Semifinals,Kobe 整個被小牛隊的射手射翻了,
: 尤其是 Kobe 主防的 Terry,系列賽 FG 58.7%,3P 68.4%,Terry 看到
: Kobe 來防守,心中一定想說又可以刷分了!
: 一定有人會說 Kobe 當時受傷了,可是 Kobe 只要上場比賽,
: 他自己就不會把傷勢當藉口,
: 更不用說二年級生的 Rondo 腳上帶傷依然打爆 Kobe。
: 3. Kobe 生涯有五次被對面的球員砍下五十分,
: 這在任何一位號稱外線防守大鎖裡面應該是奇蹟了吧?
: Antawn Jamison 拿下 51 分那一場,Kobe 當時 22 歲,防守第二隊。
: 這場球兩人對位不多,就不多做討論。
: Stephon Marbury 拿下 50 分那一場,Kobe 當時 22 歲,防守第二隊。
: 這場球 Kobe 多次防守 Marbury 的回合都被打爆。
: Allan Houston 拿下 53 分那一場,Kobe 當時 24 歲,防守第一隊。
: 這場球 Kobe 被 Houston 顏射好幾次,不管是面框或是背框都被射的滿臉豆花。
: Gilbert Arenas 拿下 60 分那一場,Kobe 當時 28 歲,防守第一隊。
: 這場球 Kobe 簡直是被打傻了,Arenas 延長賽 16 分幾乎都是在 Kobe 頭上拿的,
: 延長賽 16 分也創下當時 NBA 紀錄。
: Arenas 一戰成名!在外線大鎖 Kobe 頭上拿到 60 分!
: Allen Iverson 拿下 51 分那一場,Kobe 當時 29 歲,防守第一隊。
: 這場球湖人隊哪個球員上去防 Iverson 都被打爆,包括 Kobe。
這跟前面論調一樣,若要以一場比賽來看
KB生涯一百多場40+,他的對手都不應該稱為防守大鎖?
不是這麼評論的吧
KB 生涯末期就是防守開小差,就算我是科迷也不否認。
但你的邏輯實在很難讓人認同,特別是亂掰故事。
至少在我想法內,籃球比賽應該不是看 BOX 編出平行時空的故事吧。
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